My daughter's away at college. She called me and told me she booted up her
PC (uses Win98SE) and encountered an error message that said (paraphrasing):
"primary hard drive failure" or "failed to find primary hard drive." At any
rate, it appeared to her that the hdd had "crashed," so she thought...

I had a friend pick it up and try to check it out at his home. However, he
told me it booted just fine for him, though in safe mode. He said he
eventually got it to boot in Windows mode without any further problems.

What might have been the problem? Is this the sign of a loose connection, or
perhaps a hdd going bad (but not yet there), etc?

--
Paul R

On Tue, 04 Nov 2003 12:23:37 GMT, "Paul" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>My daughter's away at college. She called me and told me she booted up her
>PC (uses Win98SE) and encountered an error message that said (paraphrasing):
>"primary hard drive failure" or "failed to find primary hard drive." At any
>rate, it appeared to her that the hdd had "crashed," so she thought...
>
>I had a friend pick it up and try to check it out at his home. However, he
>told me it booted just fine for him, though in safe mode. He said he
>eventually got it to boot in Windows mode without any further problems.
>
>What might have been the problem? Is this the sign of a loose connection, or
>perhaps a hdd going bad (but not yet there), etc?

It could be a loose power connection.


>
>--
>Paul R
>
>


-Barry
========
Web page: http://members.optusnet.com.au/~barry.og
Atheist, radio scanner, LIPD information.

By "power connection," did you mean the PC's power supply cable that
connects to the back of the drive?

"Barry OGrady" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> On Tue, 04 Nov 2003 12:23:37 GMT, "Paul" <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote:
>
> >My daughter's away at college. She called me and told me she booted up
her
> >PC (uses Win98SE) and encountered an error message that said
(paraphrasing):
> >"primary hard drive failure" or "failed to find primary hard drive." At
any
> >rate, it appeared to her that the hdd had "crashed," so she thought...
> >
> >I had a friend pick it up and try to check it out at his home. However,
he
> >told me it booted just fine for him, though in safe mode. He said he
> >eventually got it to boot in Windows mode without any further problems.
> >
> >What might have been the problem? Is this the sign of a loose connection,
or
> >perhaps a hdd going bad (but not yet there), etc?
>
> It could be a loose power connection.
>
>
> >
> >--
> >Paul R
> >
> >
>
>
> -Barry
> ========
> Web page: http://members.optusnet.com.au/~barry.og
> Atheist, radio scanner, LIPD information.

On Tue, 04 Nov 2003 13:23:06 GMT, "Paul" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>By "power connection," did you mean the PC's power supply cable that
>connects to the back of the drive?

Yes. I had a 60 gig drive that would sometimes give a "can't write to" error.
Turned out to be the plug that goes into the drive.

Since then I have heard of other people having the same problem.

>"Barry OGrady" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> On Tue, 04 Nov 2003 12:23:37 GMT, "Paul" <(E-Mail Removed)>
>wrote:
>>
>> >My daughter's away at college. She called me and told me she booted up
>her
>> >PC (uses Win98SE) and encountered an error message that said
>(paraphrasing):
>> >"primary hard drive failure" or "failed to find primary hard drive." At
>any
>> >rate, it appeared to her that the hdd had "crashed," so she thought...
>> >
>> >I had a friend pick it up and try to check it out at his home. However,
>he
>> >told me it booted just fine for him, though in safe mode. He said he
>> >eventually got it to boot in Windows mode without any further problems.
>> >
>> >What might have been the problem? Is this the sign of a loose connection,
>or
>> >perhaps a hdd going bad (but not yet there), etc?
>>
>> It could be a loose power connection.
>>
>>
>> >
>> >--
>> >Paul R
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>> -Barry
>> ========
>> Web page: http://members.optusnet.com.au/~barry.og
>> Atheist, radio scanner, LIPD information.
>


-Barry
========
Web page: http://members.optusnet.com.au/~barry.og
Atheist, radio scanner, LIPD information.

Paul <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> My daughter's away at college. She called me and told me she booted up her
> PC (uses Win98SE) and encountered an error message that said (paraphrasing):
> "primary hard drive failure" or "failed to find primary hard drive." At any
> rate, it appeared to her that the hdd had "crashed," so she thought...

> I had a friend pick it up and try to check it out at his home. However,
> he told me it booted just fine for him, though in safe mode. He said he
> eventually got it to boot in Windows mode without any further problems.

> What might have been the problem?

Unfortunately for you, that particular symptom can be due to a
variety of things, none of which are that easy to identify remotely.

> Is this the sign of a loose connection,

Yes, it can certainly be due to that, either the power
connector on the drive itself where the little metal tunnels
the pins go into can open up over time, or even just
a loose ribbon cable etc. Certainly worth trying a different
power connector, say from one of the cdrom drives etc.

> or perhaps a hdd going bad (but not yet there), etc?

Yes, it can certainly be caused by that too.

It can also be due to the motherboard going bad, or the power supply.

Or just a flakey ribbon cable. That one is cheap to try.

The only viable approach is to check the easiest to check first
and move thru the possibilitys if it keeps behaving like that.

Certainly worth running the hard drive manufacturer's diagnostic
on the drive to see if the drive is reporting itself as going bad.
Turn SMART on in the motherboard bios for the same reason.

Obviously if you can swap the hard drive into another system
easily it would be worth trying that if nothing is obviously loose
and the diagnostic comes up clean. See if the fault moves with the
hard drive basically. Not necessarily that easy in your situation tho.

If those cheap checks dont fix it, I'd normally swap
the power supply next and the motherboard last.

Obviously if its overclocked, try running within specs etc.

On Wed, 5 Nov 2003 05:32:19 +1100, "Rod Speed" <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote:

>
>Paul <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>news:dTMpb.26630$(E-Mail Removed)...
>
>> My daughter's away at college. She called me and told me she booted up her
>> PC (uses Win98SE) and encountered an error message that said (paraphrasing):
>> "primary hard drive failure" or "failed to find primary hard drive." At any
>> rate, it appeared to her that the hdd had "crashed," so she thought...
>
>> I had a friend pick it up and try to check it out at his home. However,
>> he told me it booted just fine for him, though in safe mode. He said he
>> eventually got it to boot in Windows mode without any further problems.
>
>> What might have been the problem?
>
>Unfortunately for you, that particular symptom can be due to a
>variety of things, none of which are that easy to identify remotely.
>
>> Is this the sign of a loose connection,
>
>Yes, it can certainly be due to that, either the power
>connector on the drive itself where the little metal tunnels
>the pins go into can open up over time,

I've had lots of trouble with those connectors. Manufacturers get
pretty cheap and don't make the metal springy enough. I generally
will take a small jeweler's screwdriver and use it to compress the
little metal tunnels prior to plugging it into a drive.

Your other advice is good. I recently had a 60gig drive giving me the
same kind of boot-up problems. I replaced/upgraded with a 120 gig,
and put the suspect drive in an external USB case I had lying around.
For some strange reason, it hasn't had a single problem since removing
it from the main system.