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Jack
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      27th Mar 2007
Windows mixer offers 2 adjust volumes for the microphone:
one in Playback
and one in Recording

These are two separated settings. I understand a microphone being used in
Recording but what is that microphone shown in Playback used for?
There are more duplicate entries for both options like: Line IN or CD Player
which does not make sense to me.

Jack


 
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R. McCarty
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      27th Mar 2007
As to playback, the MIC is probably designed for headsets where you
can use voice control for certain applications. Not recording per say but
just as a input control device.

The mixer is a dual-function applet, so the user can control what is
selected (used) and the volume for both playback and recording.

"Jack" <replyto@newsgroup> wrote in message
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> Windows mixer offers 2 adjust volumes for the microphone:
> one in Playback
> and one in Recording
>
> These are two separated settings. I understand a microphone being used in
> Recording but what is that microphone shown in Playback used for?
> There are more duplicate entries for both options like: Line IN or CD
> Player which does not make sense to me.
>
> Jack
>



 
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Joe Grover
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      27th Mar 2007
"R. McCarty" <PcEngWork-NoSpam_@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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> As to playback, the MIC is probably designed for headsets where you
> can use voice control for certain applications. Not recording per say but
> just as a input control device.

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Man, and all this time I've been sticking my mic in my ear hoping I'd hear
the secrets of Windows...

 
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alanglloyd@aol.com
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      27th Mar 2007
On Mar 27, 8:35?pm, "Jack" <replyto@newsgroup> wrote:
> Windows mixer offers 2 adjust volumes for the microphone:
> one in Playback
> and one in Recording
>
> These are two separated settings. I understand a microphone being used in
> Recording but what is that microphone shown in Playback used for?
> There are more duplicate entries for both options like: Line IN or CD Player
> which does not make sense to me.
>
> Jack


I'm not sure that the names are correct <g>

I have a mixer (Santa Cruz driver) which has a Master Output having
master line inputs of Wave, Synthesiser, Aux, CD Player, Line In,
Microhone and Telephone.

These inputs are mixed by controls and produce a Stereo Mix.

There is also a Recording Control Mixer having line inputs of Aux, CD
Player, Line In, Microphone, Telephone, and Stero Mix. These inputs
are selectable, not concurrent.

Hence one can mix the microphone etc into a Stereo Mix and input that
to the Recording Control. Or one can input the Microphone (or any
other single input) directly into the Recording Control without any
mixing of other inputs.

You really need to have an app which enumerates all mixers and inputs
to see the possibilities. I have "one I built earlier" and I'll send
you a copy if you email me.

Alan Lloyd

 
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Wesley Vogel
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      27th Mar 2007
LOL

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In news:(E-Mail Removed),
Joe Grover <(E-Mail Removed)> hunted and pecked:
> "R. McCarty" <PcEngWork-NoSpam_@mindspring.com> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> As to playback, the MIC is probably designed for headsets where you
>> can use voice control for certain applications. Not recording per say but
>> just as a input control device.

> =============================/
>
>
> Man, and all this time I've been sticking my mic in my ear hoping I'd hear
> the secrets of Windows...


 
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Jack
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      27th Mar 2007
So knowing that I have a follow up question.
How to mute MIC used for recording?
The only mute MIC option is shown in Playback and when I mute it I am still
able to do recording using that MIC.
Jack

"Jack" <replyto@newsgroup> wrote in message
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> Windows mixer offers 2 adjust volumes for the microphone:
> one in Playback
> and one in Recording
>
> These are two separated settings. I understand a microphone being used in
> Recording but what is that microphone shown in Playback used for?
> There are more duplicate entries for both options like: Line IN or CD
> Player which does not make sense to me.
>
> Jack
>



 
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Dave
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      27th Mar 2007
in the recording setup you can only select a line to record from as the
default input. there is no mute, only a volume setting. the recording line
that is selected is normally what is captured by wave input devices, voice
recognition stuff and other software that uses the wavein api.

in the playback settings there is a mute for each input line. if the input
line is not muted it is passed through to the output mixer. with this you
can talk in the mic and have it come out the speakers, even if you have not
selected it for recording. use this for voiceovers or other mixing duties.

to really confuse things some sound card drivers supply a record device that
is the mixer output. this lets you mix inputs using the playback controls
and record the result of the mix.


"Jack" <replyto@newsgroup> wrote in message
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> So knowing that I have a follow up question.
> How to mute MIC used for recording?
> The only mute MIC option is shown in Playback and when I mute it I am
> still able to do recording using that MIC.
> Jack
>
> "Jack" <replyto@newsgroup> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Windows mixer offers 2 adjust volumes for the microphone:
>> one in Playback
>> and one in Recording
>>
>> These are two separated settings. I understand a microphone being used in
>> Recording but what is that microphone shown in Playback used for?
>> There are more duplicate entries for both options like: Line IN or CD
>> Player which does not make sense to me.
>>
>> Jack
>>

>
>



 
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Bob Masta
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      28th Mar 2007
On Tue, 27 Mar 2007 16:56:00 -0400, "Jack" <replyto@newsgroup> wrote:

>So knowing that I have a follow up question.
>How to mute MIC used for recording?
>The only mute MIC option is shown in Playback and when I mute it I am still
>able to do recording using that MIC.
>Jack
>
>"Jack" <replyto@newsgroup> wrote in message
>news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Windows mixer offers 2 adjust volumes for the microphone:
>> one in Playback
>> and one in Recording
>>
>> These are two separated settings. I understand a microphone being used in
>> Recording but what is that microphone shown in Playback used for?
>> There are more duplicate entries for both options like: Line IN or CD
>> Player which does not make sense to me.
>>
>> Jack
>>


Since there is no recording mute, you can set the Mic recording
volume to 0 (saving the original value if you want to emulate an
unmute popping back to the original settings). Alternatively,
with certain precautions, you might be able to just change
the input selector to an unused line whose volume you can
keep at minimum, at least while your app runs.

Best regards,




Bob Masta

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Chris P.
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      28th Mar 2007
On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 13:23:46 GMT, Bob Masta wrote:

> Since there is no recording mute, you can set the Mic recording
> volume to 0 (saving the original value if you want to emulate an
> unmute popping back to the original settings). Alternatively,
> with certain precautions, you might be able to just change
> the input selector to an unused line whose volume you can
> keep at minimum, at least while your app runs.


In Vista there is no input Mux. Each input is shown as it's own device and
can be used individually. Well, in theory an input device can have a mux,
but this is no longer the standard practice.

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