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Bob R
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      28th Jan 2004
We have a Windows 2000 Server setup as a Domain Controller. We have a
Member Server running an accounting application that needs to be accessed by
remote clients (mostly Win2K and XP). That server is now in Remote Admin
mode and I would like to change it to Application mode so more users can
access it remotely.

I understand that Win2K and XP clients do not need a Terminal Services
license, but they do need a TS CAL to be able to access the main server. Is
this correct? Do I need to setup a TS Licensing Server on the DC or the
Member Server? Licensing is already setup on the DC I believe.

Are there any other licences that I need for remote users to be able to get
to the member server via Term Services?


 
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      28th Jan 2004
Well you're 0 for 3 but that's okay, we'll point you in the right direction.

1. TSCAL, TSLicense, same thing as far as you need to be concerned.
2. Even if you have 100% Windows 2000+ clients connecting to yout TS, you still need a TS License Server to grant those computers grace connections to your TS.
3. You can't (or shouldn't) just switch your server in Remote Administration Mode to Application Server Mode unless you want your applications to start exhibiting crazy errors( Windows will evern warn you if you try to do this). Remote Administration Mode is meant for just what the name implies, Administration, NOT running end-user applications, and doesn't use a TS License Server. If you installed an end-user application on the TS while in RA Mode it'll need to be uninstalled -> Put TS in Application Server Mode -> Reinstall application(s). This goes for ANY application that multiple users could be running simultaneously
4. In a 2000 AD Domain the TSLS needs to be on the Domain Controller. You don't need any TSCALs if every connection is 2000+


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      3rd Feb 2004
If you have on licensing server on the DC and you have
clients connecting to another member server in the same
domain that is setup as a TS application server -- where
do you view the certificates that are being granted?

I can't see them anywhere for the users that are logging
into the TS on the member server?
Is something incorrectly configured?
Many thanks
>-----Original Message-----
>Well you're 0 for 3 but that's okay, we'll point you in

the right direction.
>
>1. TSCAL, TSLicense, same thing as far as you need to be

concerned.
>2. Even if you have 100% Windows 2000+ clients

connecting to yout TS, you still need a TS License Server
to grant those computers grace connections to your TS.
>3. You can't (or shouldn't) just switch your server in

Remote Administration Mode to Application Server Mode
unless you want your applications to start exhibiting
crazy errors( Windows will evern warn you if you try to do
this). Remote Administration Mode is meant for just what
the name implies, Administration, NOT running end-user
applications, and doesn't use a TS License Server. If you
installed an end-user application on the TS while in RA
Mode it'll need to be uninstalled -> Put TS in Application
Server Mode -> Reinstall application(s). This goes for
ANY application that multiple users could be running
simultaneously
>4. In a 2000 AD Domain the TSLS needs to be on the

Domain Controller. You don't need any TSCALs if every
connection is 2000+
>
>
>Patrick Rouse
>Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
>www.workthin.com
>
>.
>

 
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Vera Noest [MVP]
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      3rd Feb 2004
answered in separate post in this newsgroup, subject: "quick
question about license manager".

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> If you have on licensing server on the DC and you have
> clients connecting to another member server in the same
> domain that is setup as a TS application server -- where
> do you view the certificates that are being granted?
>
> I can't see them anywhere for the users that are logging
> into the TS on the member server?
> Is something incorrectly configured?
> Many thanks
>>-----Original Message-----
>>Well you're 0 for 3 but that's okay, we'll point you in

> the right direction.
>>
>>1. TSCAL, TSLicense, same thing as far as you need to be

> concerned.
>>2. Even if you have 100% Windows 2000+ clients

> connecting to yout TS, you still need a TS License Server
> to grant those computers grace connections to your TS.
>>3. You can't (or shouldn't) just switch your server in

> Remote Administration Mode to Application Server Mode
> unless you want your applications to start exhibiting
> crazy errors( Windows will evern warn you if you try to do
> this). Remote Administration Mode is meant for just what
> the name implies, Administration, NOT running end-user
> applications, and doesn't use a TS License Server. If you
> installed an end-user application on the TS while in RA
> Mode it'll need to be uninstalled -> Put TS in Application
> Server Mode -> Reinstall application(s). This goes for
> ANY application that multiple users could be running
> simultaneously
>>4. In a 2000 AD Domain the TSLS needs to be on the

> Domain Controller. You don't need any TSCALs if every
> connection is 2000+
>>
>>
>>Patrick Rouse
>>Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server
>>www.workthin.com

 
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