I want to buy Canon printer that will be very easy to refill.

I can buy iP6600D for $165 with shipping and perhaps get
$25 rebate back or I can get iP4000R for $119 total.

What I am totally unsure about is refilling of either. iP6600D
uses new cartridges which do not seem to be available
from refillers. Also, supposed to be new and improved inks.
According to this group, they also have chips on them.
iP4000R uses very popular cartridges which are not chipped
and the replacements and inks are widely available. I am
not sure what all of this implies in terms of ease of refilling
and usage. Questions:

1. Will iP6600D take "regular", non-ChromaLife inks without
ill effects?

2. What exactly can I expect to happen in the case of chipped
cartridges on iP6600D when I go ahead and refill them?

3. Any issues with refilling and monitoring ink levels on ip4000?

4. Also, not clear about this one: Canon lists black printing
resolution 600x600 dpi for iP4000R but for iP6600D it claims the
same as for color: 9600 x 2400. Does this mean pure text will
be higher resolution? What what implication does the absence
of large black tank in the iP6600D will have?

Thank you very much for any comments you might have.

Dima

> 1. Will iP6600D take "regular", non-ChromaLife inks without ill effects?

Well, information is limited, but near as I can tell the chipped tanks
can be refilled if you so desire, just the software will complain three
times your running close to empty before disabling the chip meter and
letting you print at your own risk. No further info is available.

> 3. Any issues with refilling and monitoring ink levels on ip4000?

I'm told that UK users have a hard time buying 3rd party tanks with
prisms. Assuming you have a prism in your tank you get a warning hen
the reservoir is empty the sponge still holds about 20% of ink.

> 4. Also, not clear about this one: Canon lists black printing resolution 600x600 dpi
> for iP4000R but for iP6600D it claims the same as for color: 9600 x 2400.
> Does this mean pure text will be higher resolution?
> What what implication does the absence
> of large black tank in the iP6600D will have?

The ip3000/4000/5000 all have the dedicated text tank. The nozzles
count is 320 which I believe are all the larger 5pl size. I assume
this becuase the color nozzles are 1/3 the lenth and have both small
2pl nozzles and 5pl, and the dpi is listed at 600. The nozzle count of
the ip6600D is 512 per color which is likely seperated into 128 5pl
nozzles and 384 1pl nozzles. I don't know this for a fact but it's a
reasonable assumption. Text printing is likely done with the larger
nozzles, and as they are smaller in number would require more strokes
than models with amore nozzles. Expect a peformance hit at the very
least. The ip5200 gets 512 nozzles for it's pigment black.

The mp950 gives you both the pigmented black and the 6 tank with light
cyan/magenta, but it carries with it a very high pricetag.

DK wrote:

>I want to buy Canon printer that will be very easy to refill.
>
MISTAKE ONE: THAT SHOULD NOT BE A CONSIDERATION

>
>
>I can buy iP6600D for $165 with shipping and perhaps get
>$25 rebate back or I can get iP4000R for $119 total.
>
IP4000 IS BETTER

>
>
>What I am totally unsure about is refilling of either. iP6600D
>uses new cartridges which do not seem to be available
>from refillers.
>
GREAT

>Also, supposed to be new and improved inks.
>According to this group, they also have chips on them.
>
SO

>
>iP4000R uses very popular cartridges which are not chipped
>and the replacements and inks are widely available. I am
>not sure what all of this implies in terms of ease of refilling
>and usage. Questions:
>
>1. Will iP6600D take "regular", non-ChromaLife inks without
>ill effects?
>
>
IF YOU HAVE TO ASK THAT DUMB QUESTION DO NOT BUY IT

>2. What exactly can I expect to happen in the case of chipped
>cartridges on iP6600D when I go ahead and refill them?
>
>
A CLOGGED PRINTHEAD

>3. Any issues with refilling and monitoring ink levels on ip4000?
>
>
CLOGGING OF THE PRINTHEAD

>4. Also, not clear about this one: Canon lists black printing
>resolution 600x600 dpi for iP4000R but for iP6600D it claims the
>same as for color: 9600 x 2400. Does this mean pure text will
>be higher resolution? What what implication does the absence
>of large black tank in the iP6600D will have?
>
>
TEXT IS WORSE

>Thank you very much for any comments you might have.
>
>Dima
>
>
>

zakezuke wrote:

>>1. Will iP6600D take "regular", non-ChromaLife inks without ill effects?
>>
>>
>
>Well, information is limited, No further info is available.
>
>
>
>>3. Any issues with refilling and monitoring ink levels on ip4000?
>>
>>
>
>I'm told that UK users have a hard time buying 3rd party tanks with
>prisms.
>
>
>
>>4. Also, not clear about this one:
>>
>>
>
>The ip3000/4000/5000 all have the dedicated text tank.
>
>
>
>
>

DK wrote:
> I want to buy Canon printer that will be very easy to refill.
>
> I can buy iP6600D for $165 with shipping and perhaps get
> $25 rebate back or I can get iP4000R for $119 total.
>
> What I am totally unsure about is refilling of either. iP6600D
> uses new cartridges which do not seem to be available
> from refillers. Also, supposed to be new and improved inks.
> According to this group, they also have chips on them.
> iP4000R uses very popular cartridges which are not chipped
> and the replacements and inks are widely available. I am
> not sure what all of this implies in terms of ease of refilling
> and usage. Questions:
>
> 1. Will iP6600D take "regular", non-ChromaLife inks without
> ill effects?
>
> 2. What exactly can I expect to happen in the case of chipped
> cartridges on iP6600D when I go ahead and refill them?

I can't help you with the very newest generation Canon printers as I
have no experience with them. You cannot expect to get compatible
cartridges for them from refillers because the printers just came out on
the market. It takes a while for the compatible ink and cartridge makers
to "catch up". I do know that bulk inks for them do already exist. The
people that sell the bulk inks should be able to help you with any
further questions.

>
> 3. Any issues with refilling and monitoring ink levels on ip4000?

There are no issues with the iP4000 or iP5000 as long as you don't use
any ink that say "works in all printers" or "universal". There's no
such thing as an ink that will work equally well in Epson, HP, Canon and
Lexmark. You'll be compromising something somewhere.

I've used various brands of prefilled cartridges and bulk inks and
refill kits. But they were specifically formulated for the BCI-6 and
BCI-3e line of printers.

IMPORTANT: When it comes to clogging, please remember that it's not so
much which brand of ink you put in your printer, but HOW OFTEN YOU USE
IT. All inks are quick drying. If you plan to use it only once a month,
then you're definitely asking for trouble. I like to use mine (I have
two) at least twice a week, usually more.

>
> 4. Also, not clear about this one: Canon lists black printing
> resolution 600x600 dpi for iP4000R but for iP6600D it claims the
> same as for color: 9600 x 2400. Does this mean pure text will
> be higher resolution? What what implication does the absence
> of large black tank in the iP6600D will have?

I can see no reason for text to be printed at 9600 DPI. A page of
text at that resolution will take a good 15 minutes! Pointless.

A 4x6 photo on my iP5000 takes near 4 minutes at 9600 dpi. That's
fine for photos, they need resolution. Black text does not, it's a solid
color.

-Taliesyn

>
> Thank you very much for any comments you might have.
>
> Dima
>

> ip4000 is better

Why do you feel the ip4000 is better than the ip6600D? Have you ever
used one? Have you ever seen one? I'm not saying you are wrong, for
all I know you could be correct, I just wonder what leads you to this
opinion since I have "never" seen it in stores. I've not seen a review
on it.

zakezuke wrote:
>>ip4000 is better
>
>
> Why do you feel the ip4000 is better than the ip6600D? Have you ever
> used one? Have you ever seen one? I'm not saying you are wrong, for
> all I know you could be correct, I just wonder what leads you to this
> opinion since I have "never" seen it in stores. I've not seen a review
> on it.
>
Oh com'on zz. We all know, just as you know, that measershithead is a
****ing moron loser. He doesn't give a **** about the facts as they
relate to the truth. He is one big sicko. His only printer is an ip4000
which he sleeps with. Other than that all he ever post is the sos about
oem inks and changing others postings.
He nothing but a ****ing loser!
Kill file his stuck on stupid ass so we don't have to ever see him again.
Frank

*WHAT EVER HAPPENED TO BURTIE FURTIE*

Taliesyn wrote:

> DK wrote:
>
>> I want to buy Canon printer that will be very easy to refill.
>> I can buy iP6600D for $165 with shipping and perhaps get $25 rebate
>> back or I can get iP4000R for $119 total.
>> What I am totally unsure about is refilling of either. iP6600D uses
>> new cartridges which do not seem to be available from refillers.
>> Also, supposed to be new and improved inks. According to this group,
>> they also have chips on them. iP4000R uses very popular cartridges
>> which are not chipped and the replacements and inks are widely
>> available. I am not sure what all of this implies in terms of ease of
>> refilling and usage. Questions:
>> 1. Will iP6600D take "regular", non-ChromaLife inks without
>> ill effects?
>> 2. What exactly can I expect to happen in the case of chipped
>> cartridges on iP6600D when I go ahead and refill them?
>
>
> I can't help you with the very newest generation Canon printers as I
> have no experience with them. You cannot expect to get compatible
> cartridges for them from refillers because the printers just came out on
> the market. It takes a while for the compatible ink and

PATENT VIOLATOR

> cartridge makers
> to "catch up". I do know that bulk inks for them do already exist. The
> people that sell the bulk inks should be able to help you with any
> further questions

YEAH JUST LIKE THE FOX WHO GUARDS THE HENHOUSE

> .
>
>>
>> 3. Any issues with refilling and monitoring ink levels on ip4000?
>
>
> There are no issues with the iP4000 or iP5000 as long as you don't use
> any ink that say "works in all printers" or "universal". There's no
> such thing as an ink that will work equally well in Epson, HP, Canon
> and Lexmark. You'll be compromising something somewhere.
>
> I've used various brands

HE DOES NOT USE ANY BRANDS. THE VENDORS WHO SELL THEM WILL NOT TELL YOU
WHO THE MFG/FORMULATOR IS.

> of prefilled cartridges and bulk inks and refill kits. But they were
> specifically formulated for the BCI-6 and
> BCI-3e line of printers.

REFILLING IS A MESSY PAIN IN THE ASS

>
> IMPORTANT: When it comes to clogging, please remember that it's not so
> much which brand of ink you put in your printer, but HOW OFTEN YOU USE
> IT. All inks are quick drying. If you plan to use it only once a
> month, then you're definitely asking for trouble. I like to use mine
> (I have two) at least twice a week, usually more.
>
>>
>> 4. Also, not clear about this one: Canon lists black printing
>> resolution 600x600 dpi for iP4000R but for iP6600D it claims the same
>> as for color: 9600 x 2400. Does this mean pure text will be higher
>> resolution? What what implication does the absence of large black
>> tank in the iP6600D will have?
>
>
> I can see no reason for text to be printed at 9600 DPI. A page of
> text at that resolution will take a good 15 minutes! Pointless.
>
> A 4x6 photo on my iP5000 takes near 4 minutes at 9600 dpi. That's
> fine for photos, they need resolution. Black text does not, it's a solid
> color.
>
> -Taliesyn
>
>>
>> Thank you very much for any comments you might have.
>> Dima
>>

zakezuke wrote:

>>ip4000 is better
>>
>>
>
>Why do you feel the ip4000 is better than the ip6600D? Have you ever
>used one? Have you ever seen one? I'm not saying you are wrong,
>
OF COURSE NOT

>for
>all I know you could be correct,
>
OF COURSE

>I just wonder what leads you to this
>opinion since I have "never" seen it in stores. I've not seen a review
>on it.
>
>
>

Frank wrote:

> zakezuke wrote:
>
>>> ip4000 is better
>>
>>
>>
>> Why do you feel the ip4000 is better than the ip6600D? Have you ever
>> used one? Have you ever seen one? I'm not saying you are wrong, for
>> all I know you could be correct, I just wonder what leads you to this
>> opinion since I have "never" seen it in stores. I've not seen a review
>> on it.
>>
> Oh com'on zz. We all know, just as you know, that I am a ****ing moron
> loser. I do not give a **** about the facts as they relate to the
> truth. I am one big sicko. My only printer is an i9900 which I sleeps
> with. Other than that all I ever post is the sos about oem inks and
> changing others postings.
> I am nothing but a ****ing loser!
> Kill file his stuck on stupid ass so you don't have to ever see me again.
> Frank

THIS MUST BE FRANKIE CRANKIE ON SUNDAY AT CONFESSION. EVERYONE KNOWS
THE ASSHOLE IS A LOWFILE ****WIT RODENT.