Maybe a bit offtopic but I run Zonealarm and Mailwasher to safeguard against
spam that might contain viruses, hence the connection with this newsgroup. I
suppose a lot of you do too.

Mailwasher (2.0) sometimes sends out bounce messages so fast that Zonealarm
(the free version, 5.0.590.043) thinks it's a spam sender, as it objects to
Mailwasher sending out more than 5 emails per second. I've tried in vain to
alter any Zonealarm settings to stop it blocking Mailwasher emails. I just
can't find the page to change or disable this! In the page "Email
Protection" I only see "Basic Mailsafe Settings".

Apparently this setting can only be changed in paid versions of Zonealarm. I
did testdrive the Pro version some time ago but only recently the problem
started. Sometimes the only remedy is to disable Zonealarm altogether but
this can't be the optimum way I should hope. I did a clean install of the
latest version of Zonealarm, losing all my settings, but that didn't help
any.

Any bright ideas?

Paul

"Paul" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
news:z0bEc.2311$UC1.30487@zonnet-reader-1:

> Maybe a bit offtopic but I run Zonealarm and Mailwasher to safeguard
> against spam that might contain viruses, hence the connection with
> this newsgroup. I suppose a lot of you do too.
>
> Mailwasher (2.0) sometimes sends out bounce messages so fast that
> Zonealarm (the free version, 5.0.590.043) thinks it's a spam sender,
> as it objects to Mailwasher sending out more than 5 emails per second.
> I've tried in vain to alter any Zonealarm settings to stop it blocking
> Mailwasher emails. I just can't find the page to change or disable
> this! In the page "Email Protection" I only see "Basic Mailsafe
> Settings".
>
> Apparently this setting can only be changed in paid versions of
> Zonealarm. I did testdrive the Pro version some time ago but only
> recently the problem started. Sometimes the only remedy is to disable
> Zonealarm altogether but this can't be the optimum way I should hope.
> I did a clean install of the latest version of Zonealarm, losing all
> my settings, but that didn't help any.
>
> Any bright ideas?

I use MW and I don't use the bounce feature. It's worthless and all
you're doing is choking the POP3 servers by bouncing things back.

Duane

"Duane Arnold" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:Xns951733A276405notmenotmecoml@204.127.199.17...
> "Paul" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
> news:z0bEc.2311$UC1.30487@zonnet-reader-1:
>
> > Maybe a bit offtopic but I run Zonealarm and Mailwasher
to safeguard
> > against spam that might contain viruses, hence the
connection with
> > this newsgroup. I suppose a lot of you do too.
> >
> > Mailwasher (2.0) sometimes sends out bounce messages so
fast that
> > Zonealarm (the free version, 5.0.590.043) thinks it's a
spam sender,
> > as it objects to Mailwasher sending out more than 5
emails per second.
> > I've tried in vain to alter any Zonealarm settings to
stop it blocking
> > Mailwasher emails. I just can't find the page to change
or disable
> > this! In the page "Email Protection" I only see "Basic
Mailsafe
> > Settings".
> >
> > Apparently this setting can only be changed in paid
versions of
> > Zonealarm. I did testdrive the Pro version some time ago
but only
> > recently the problem started. Sometimes the only remedy
is to disable
> > Zonealarm altogether but this can't be the optimum way I
should hope.
> > I did a clean install of the latest version of
Zonealarm, losing all
> > my settings, but that didn't help any.
> >
> > Any bright ideas?
>
> I use MW and I don't use the bounce feature. It's
worthless and all
> you're doing is choking the POP3 servers by bouncing
things back.
>
> Duane

No, actually, by using the MW bounce features, you are
sending the so-called bounces to complain to innocent
parties. MW does not contain the smarts to accurately
determine the actual source of a spam, regardless of what
the folk at MW say: they are lying to you in that one
single instance and so far refuse to fix their advertising.
Never use the bounce feature:
1. It can NOT send a bounce that looks like an actual
bounce - they are obvious forgeries.
2. Mailwasher does NOT figure out the actual vs. forged
email headers, and as a result 99% of the time, sends the
bounces to an innocent party. Innocent parties may either
lose their own accounts for spamming (and it might
eventualloy end up being you), or may report you for
spamming. Fortunatelyl, most ISPs these days know about
this problem and don't punish their clients for ignorance -
but - not all ISPs are that savvy.

Check it out; I'm not being fanatical - and to make it
worse, MW knows about its misleading advertising and does
nothing about it software OR advertising wise. They won't
even default the bounce feature to OFF.

Other than that, MW is an effective tool to sort/file spam
and works well. Please turn off the bounce feature.

Pop

"Pop Rivet" <(E-Mail Removed)> schreef in bericht
news:LPedncuMwbXO8XzdRVn-(E-Mail Removed)...
> Never use the bounce feature:
> 1. It can NOT send a bounce that looks like an actual
> bounce - they are obvious forgeries.
> 2. Mailwasher does NOT figure out the actual vs. forged
> email headers, and as a result 99% of the time, sends the
> bounces to an innocent party. Innocent parties may either
> lose their own accounts for spamming (and it might
> eventualloy end up being you), or may report you for
> spamming. Fortunatelyl, most ISPs these days know about
> this problem and don't punish their clients for ignorance -
> but - not all ISPs are that savvy.
Wow, that's an eyeopener. So I'd change my problem to stop sending bounces.

>
> Check it out; I'm not being fanatical - and to make it
> worse, MW knows about its misleading advertising and does
> nothing about it software OR advertising wise. They won't
> even default the bounce feature to OFF.
That WOULD help.

>
> Other than that, MW is an effective tool to sort/file spam
Agree, I'd hate to sift through 50-100 spam mails per day in any other way.

> and works well. Please turn off the bounce feature.
HOW??? I'd like that, but short of unmarking all emails individually I don't
see how I could accomplish that...

>
> Pop
>
Thanks for your help!

Paul

"Paul" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
message
news:OYeEc.2340$UC1.34909@zonnet-reader-1
>> "Pop Rivet" <(E-Mail Removed)> schreef in bericht
>> news:LPedncuMwbXO8XzdRVn-(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> Never use the bounce feature:
>>> 1. It can NOT send a bounce that looks like an
actual
>>> bounce - they are obvious forgeries.
>>> 2. Mailwasher does NOT figure out the actual vs.
forged
>>> email headers, and as a result 99% of the time,
sends the
>>> bounces to an innocent party. Innocent parties may
either
>>> lose their own accounts for spamming (and it might
>>> eventualloy end up being you), or may report you
for
>>> spamming. Fortunatelyl, most ISPs these days know
about
>>> this problem and don't punish their clients for
ignorance -
>>> but - not all ISPs are that savvy.
>> Wow, that's an eyeopener. So I'd change my problem
to stop sending
>> bounces.
>>
>>>
>>> Check it out; I'm not being fanatical - and to make
it
>>> worse, MW knows about its misleading advertising
and does
>>> nothing about it software OR advertising wise.
They won't
>>> even default the bounce feature to OFF.
>> That WOULD help.
>>
>>>
>>> Other than that, MW is an effective tool to
sort/file spam
>> Agree, I'd hate to sift through 50-100 spam mails
per day in any
>> other way.
>>
>>> and works well. Please turn off the bounce
feature.
>> HOW??? I'd like that, but short of unmarking all
emails individually
>> I don't see how I could accomplish that...
>>
>>>
>>> Pop
>>>
>> Thanks for your help!
>>
>> Paul

Unfortunately, I don't use MW anymore (moved on to a
more techie product) and don't remember where to turn
it off. It is definitely an option though, as I too
used the bounces at one time - I remember being pretty
embarassed when I finally figured what the real
situation was.

I imagine if you ask the MW folk, they'll be happy to
help you; this issue is a thorn in their side and kind
words might get you a quick answer - don't berate them
and be polite. Or, maybe someone here will help out -
there are lots of MW users here.

Pop

Paul, if you are running Version 4.1 of Mailwasher Pro, just select the Spam
Tools button on the top toolbar, then choose the "Origin of Spam" button on
the left side. It's here that you can shut off the bounce feature for your
unwanted e-mails. I too strongly suggest that you don't use the bounce
feature.

"PopRivet" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:NJCdnQQse5DYh3_dRVn-(E-Mail Removed)...
> "Paul" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
> message
> news:OYeEc.2340$UC1.34909@zonnet-reader-1
>>> "Pop Rivet" <(E-Mail Removed)> schreef in bericht
>>> news:LPedncuMwbXO8XzdRVn-(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>> Never use the bounce feature:
>>>> 1. It can NOT send a bounce that looks like an
> actual
>>>> bounce - they are obvious forgeries.
>>>> 2. Mailwasher does NOT figure out the actual vs.
> forged
>>>> email headers, and as a result 99% of the time,
> sends the
>>>> bounces to an innocent party. Innocent parties may
> either
>>>> lose their own accounts for spamming (and it might
>>>> eventualloy end up being you), or may report you
> for
>>>> spamming. Fortunatelyl, most ISPs these days know
> about
>>>> this problem and don't punish their clients for
> ignorance -
>>>> but - not all ISPs are that savvy.
>>> Wow, that's an eyeopener. So I'd change my problem
> to stop sending
>>> bounces.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Check it out; I'm not being fanatical - and to make
> it
>>>> worse, MW knows about its misleading advertising
> and does
>>>> nothing about it software OR advertising wise.
> They won't
>>>> even default the bounce feature to OFF.
>>> That WOULD help.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Other than that, MW is an effective tool to
> sort/file spam
>>> Agree, I'd hate to sift through 50-100 spam mails
> per day in any
>>> other way.
>>>
>>>> and works well. Please turn off the bounce
> feature.
>>> HOW??? I'd like that, but short of unmarking all
> emails individually
>>> I don't see how I could accomplish that...
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Pop
>>>>
>>> Thanks for your help!
>>>
>>> Paul
>
> Unfortunately, I don't use MW anymore (moved on to a
> more techie product) and don't remember where to turn
> it off. It is definitely an option though, as I too
> used the bounces at one time - I remember being pretty
> embarassed when I finally figured what the real
> situation was.
>
> I imagine if you ask the MW folk, they'll be happy to
> help you; this issue is a thorn in their side and kind
> words might get you a quick answer - don't berate them
> and be polite. Or, maybe someone here will help out -
> there are lots of MW users here.
>
> Pop
>
>

To turn off the bounce function in Mailwasher 4.1, go Tools | Accounts |
Properties | <click on the third tab> | <take the check off Enable bouncing
of messages>

Ma No

On Wed, 30 Jun 2004 03:15:02 GMT, "Ma No" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>To turn off the bounce function in Mailwasher 4.1, go Tools | Accounts |
>Properties | <click on the third tab> | <take the check off Enable bouncing
>of messages>
>
>Ma No
>
Thanks Ma No. This works with version 2.0.40 also.

"Richard L Gabriel" <**rlgabriel**@charter.net> schreef in bericht
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> On Wed, 30 Jun 2004 03:15:02 GMT, "Ma No" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
> >To turn off the bounce function in Mailwasher 4.1, go Tools | Accounts |
> >Properties | <click on the third tab> | <take the check off Enable
bouncing
> >of messages>
> >
> >Ma No
> >
> Thanks Ma No. This works with version 2.0.40 also.
That's it, thanks guys! Even with my 2.0.28 Beta...

Paul