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hendisREMOVETHIS@us89.net
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      13th Jan 2004
As a relatively new poster to these groups, please excuse
me if I'm posting to the wrong group, and feel free to
forward my email as needed.

Before I start, thanks for your help.

I am running Win XP Home, and have Win XP Pro available. I
have one computer that I use at home for business use (I'm
self-employed)and I also use it for personal non-business
use. I have set up a keylogger program that required me to
turn off Fast User Switching, and it will record who logs
in and when, but I have a problem that I can't seem to
figure out.

I need most of the programs to be accessible from BOTH
user profiles. How can I do this?

If you want to take a stab at this, great! If you need
more info, you can email me at (E-Mail Removed).

Thanks again.
 
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Robert Moir
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      13th Jan 2004
(E-Mail Removed) wrote:
> As a relatively new poster to these groups, please excuse
> me if I'm posting to the wrong group, and feel free to
> forward my email as needed.
>
> Before I start, thanks for your help.
>
> I am running Win XP Home, and have Win XP Pro available. I
> have one computer that I use at home for business use (I'm
> self-employed)and I also use it for personal non-business
> use. I have set up a keylogger program that required me to
> turn off Fast User Switching, and it will record who logs
> in and when, but I have a problem that I can't seem to
> figure out.
>
> I need most of the programs to be accessible from BOTH
> user profiles. How can I do this?


If the programs are reasonably recent this shouldn't present much of a
problem at all. In general I would expect that just making a copy of the
icons from the desktop and/or start menu when you've installed them in one
profile and moving them some place where the other profile can "see" them
should do it.

Some older programs which are not really designed to work with multiple
profiles may also want to be installed again by both users to re-create
personal settings - which is somewhat annoying and obviously time-consuming
but not too difficult.

Some stuff, again mostly older programs, may expect that the use running the
computer can "touch" all parts of the computer system. In plain english,
that they are effectively an administrator. In those cases you've probably
got 4 choices which I'll list in the order most people get around to them
(there may be some debate about the order of a & b, I'm sorting those two by
the order I think *should* happen):
a) ask the supplier about an update that doesn't do this.
b) run as administrator.
c) see if their competitors produce something that behaves better and meets
your needs.
d) painstakingly spend hours figuring out what rights the program needs to
files and the registry and applying them by hand.

Other stuff might be more of a "case by case" basis.

Are you running into a specific problem or are you enquiring in general?


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hendisREMOVETHIS@us89.net
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      13th Jan 2004
Both users are configured as Admin accounts.

Actually, I'm running into a specific problem:

I have MS Office 2003 and IE 6 both installed. First,
Office:

I need both users to see all of the Outlook info, no
matter which user added the info or when it was added to
Outlook. I have already placed the .pst file into "Shared
Documents", but it won't work.

I also can't initiate a DUN connection from both profiles,
only the "Owner" profile.

Thanks again.

>-----Original Message-----
>(E-Mail Removed) wrote:
>> As a relatively new poster to these groups, please

excuse
>> me if I'm posting to the wrong group, and feel free to
>> forward my email as needed.
>>
>> Before I start, thanks for your help.
>>
>> I am running Win XP Home, and have Win XP Pro

available. I
>> have one computer that I use at home for business use

(I'm
>> self-employed)and I also use it for personal non-

business
>> use. I have set up a keylogger program that required me

to
>> turn off Fast User Switching, and it will record who

logs
>> in and when, but I have a problem that I can't seem to
>> figure out.
>>
>> I need most of the programs to be accessible from BOTH
>> user profiles. How can I do this?

>
>If the programs are reasonably recent this shouldn't

present much of a
>problem at all. In general I would expect that just

making a copy of the
>icons from the desktop and/or start menu when you've

installed them in one
>profile and moving them some place where the other

profile can "see" them
>should do it.
>
>Some older programs which are not really designed to work

with multiple
>profiles may also want to be installed again by both

users to re-create
>personal settings - which is somewhat annoying and

obviously time-consuming
>but not too difficult.
>
>Some stuff, again mostly older programs, may expect that

the use running the
>computer can "touch" all parts of the computer system. In

plain english,
>that they are effectively an administrator. In those

cases you've probably
>got 4 choices which I'll list in the order most people

get around to them
>(there may be some debate about the order of a & b, I'm

sorting those two by
>the order I think *should* happen):
>a) ask the supplier about an update that doesn't do this.
>b) run as administrator.
>c) see if their competitors produce something that

behaves better and meets
>your needs.
>d) painstakingly spend hours figuring out what rights the

program needs to
>files and the registry and applying them by hand.
>
>Other stuff might be more of a "case by case" basis.
>
>Are you running into a specific problem or are you

enquiring in general?
>
>
>--
>--
>Rob Moir
>Microsoft MVP for servers & security
>Website - http://www.robertmoir.co.uk
>Virtual PC 2004 FAQ -

http://www.robertmoir.co.uk/win/VirtualPC2004FAQ.html
>
>
>.
>

 
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Robert Moir
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      15th Jan 2004
(E-Mail Removed) wrote:
> Both users are configured as Admin accounts.
>
> Actually, I'm running into a specific problem:
>
> I have MS Office 2003 and IE 6 both installed. First,
> Office:
>
> I need both users to see all of the Outlook info, no
> matter which user added the info or when it was added to
> Outlook. I have already placed the .pst file into "Shared
> Documents", but it won't work.
>
> I also can't initiate a DUN connection from both profiles,
> only the "Owner" profile.
>
> Thanks again.


*grin* you've managed to hit on two things I don't know a lot about. Maybe
someone else can do better than me here for you, I hope.

Outlook is designed to work as a private mail area for each user account on
a system, so I'm not sure you can share your "live" PST files between each
other. What you can do is share a seperate, third PST file between you, so
you each have a personal area and a shared area between you.

Theres a guide to doing this here >
http://www.slipstick.com/outlook/olshare1.htm

As for the DUN connection, its been a heck of a long time since I set up a
modem connection in XP, or anywhere else for that matter, but I think if you
go to control panel, Network and Internet Connections, Network Connections
and create a new dial up using the "Create a new connection" option in the
network tasks screens, one of the questions the wizard asks you near the end
is "Use this account name and password when anyone connects to the internet
from this computer" - I believe selecting this does what you want.

To change a DUN connection thats using the standard Windows XP DUN tools, go
to the same place in the control panel and double-click the shortcut
there...

I believe you'll then get a dialogue box to activate the connection and it
will have an option to "Save this username and password for the following
users", and you can choose "Me Only" or "Anyone who uses the computer" -
obviously you'll want that last option.

I hope that helps a little,
Regards,
Rob Moir.


 
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