Hi, Hope you can help me. Sorry my bad english.

The network has 1 WinSvr2003 and n WinXp working in workgroup (not
domain).
They connect to a router (gateway).
I think that the rras server must be in the pc that receives(or
control) the internet connection, but in this case that "PC" is the
router!!!!!

If I run the RRAS wizard in the WinSvr2003, will it work????
Any consideration??

Thanks

RRAS is one of windows 2003 features. It works great. This how to may help,

How to setup vpn on 2003 as router How to setup VPN and NAT on Windows Server 2003 as a router. Pre-requirement:. 1. Two network interface cards. 2. One static public IP on the outside NIC. ...
www.howtonetworking.com/VPN/2003vpn1.htm


Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net
How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:(E-Mail Removed)...
Hi, Hope you can help me. Sorry my bad english.

The network has 1 WinSvr2003 and n WinXp working in workgroup (not
domain).
They connect to a router (gateway).
I think that the rras server must be in the pc that receives(or
control) the internet connection, but in this case that "PC" is the
router!!!!!

If I run the RRAS wizard in the WinSvr2003, will it work????
Any consideration??

Thanks

RRAS can be both a router and a remote access server. If you already
have a router, what do you want RRAS to do? Is the router already doing NAT
for your LAN? Do you want to set up RRAS to allow an incoming VPN
connection?

(E-Mail Removed) wrote:
> Hi, Hope you can help me. Sorry my bad english.
>
> The network has 1 WinSvr2003 and n WinXp working in workgroup (not
> domain).
> They connect to a router (gateway).
> I think that the rras server must be in the pc that receives(or
> control) the internet connection, but in this case that "PC" is the
> router!!!!!
>
> If I run the RRAS wizard in the WinSvr2003, will it work????
> Any consideration??
>
> Thanks

Sorry to hijack this thread, but i am also looking to achieve this.

I have a win2k server on a network and part of a workgroup - i would like to
allow VPN connections in to browse files.

What considerations must i have?

David
"Bill Grant" <not.available@online> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> RRAS can be both a router and a remote access server. If you already
> have a router, what do you want RRAS to do? Is the router already doing
> NAT for your LAN? Do you want to set up RRAS to allow an incoming VPN
> connection?
>
> (E-Mail Removed) wrote:
>> Hi, Hope you can help me. Sorry my bad english.
>>
>> The network has 1 WinSvr2003 and n WinXp working in workgroup (not
>> domain).
>> They connect to a router (gateway).
>> I think that the rras server must be in the pc that receives(or
>> control) the internet connection, but in this case that "PC" is the
>> router!!!!!
>>
>> If I run the RRAS wizard in the WinSvr2003, will it work????
>> Any consideration??
>>
>> Thanks
>
>

Setting up RRAS as a VPN server is pretty straight forward. WARNING - Do
NOT use the VPN server option in the RRAS setup wizard in W2k. This makes it
a VPN server only and blocks all non-VPN traffic.

If you are not running AD you authenticate against the server's local
SAM database.How is your LAN connected to the Internet? Does the server have
a direct connection or does it go through a NAT router?

Browsing does not work as it does on the LAN. The WAN link blocks
broadcasts, so you won't see things automatically in Network Places. But you
should be able to see shares on the server using net view \\servername and
map them using net use z: \\servername\filename .

David Aitchison wrote:
> Sorry to hijack this thread, but i am also looking to achieve this.
>
> I have a win2k server on a network and part of a workgroup - i would
> like to allow VPN connections in to browse files.
>
> What considerations must i have?
>
> David
> "Bill Grant" <not.available@online> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> RRAS can be both a router and a remote access server. If you
>> already have a router, what do you want RRAS to do? Is the router
>> already doing NAT for your LAN? Do you want to set up RRAS to allow
>> an incoming VPN connection?
>>
>> (E-Mail Removed) wrote:
>>> Hi, Hope you can help me. Sorry my bad english.
>>>
>>> The network has 1 WinSvr2003 and n WinXp working in workgroup (not
>>> domain).
>>> They connect to a router (gateway).
>>> I think that the rras server must be in the pc that receives(or
>>> control) the internet connection, but in this case that "PC" is the
>>> router!!!!!
>>>
>>> If I run the RRAS wizard in the WinSvr2003, will it work????
>>> Any consideration??
>>>
>>> Thanks

Hi Bill.
What I want is to connect to the described network from my home.
Yes, the router is doing NAT for the LAN.
I want RRAS (or anything else) to allow an incoming connection.

The network is:

internet ---> router (NAT) ---> XP pc's and WinSvr2003
All the Pc's (including WS2003) has in TCP/IP properties:

IP Dir. 192.168.0.x
Submask. 255.255.255.0
Gatway: 192.168.0.1 (this is the router IP)

DNS (both) are left in blank.

Thanks


Bill Grant ha escrito:

> RRAS can be both a router and a remote access server. If you already
> have a router, what do you want RRAS to do? Is the router already doing NAT
> for your LAN? Do you want to set up RRAS to allow an incoming VPN
> connection?
>
> (E-Mail Removed) wrote:
> > Hi, Hope you can help me. Sorry my bad english.
> >
> > The network has 1 WinSvr2003 and n WinXp working in workgroup (not
> > domain).
> > They connect to a router (gateway).
> > I think that the rras server must be in the pc that receives(or
> > control) the internet connection, but in this case that "PC" is the
> > router!!!!!
> >
> > If I run the RRAS wizard in the WinSvr2003, will it work????
> > Any consideration??
> >
> > Thanks

OK. The first thing to do is to configure RRAS on the server to allow a
VPN connection. You can use the RRAS setup wizard for this.

Next up, test that you can make a VPN connection from a workstation on
the LAN. (VPN will work over the LAN connection). This allows you to debug
any setup or authentication problems locally.

When you can connect locally, you need to make some changes on your NAT
device. The remote connection from the Internet has to connect to the public
interface of your router. The router has to be able to extend that
connection to the server on the LAN. This requires forwarding tcp port 1723
to the server's LAN IP for a PPTP connection. The router must also not block
GRE (IP protocol 47). The encrypted VPN data has a GRE header, so no data is
passed (and the connection closes with an error message) if GRE is blocked.

(E-Mail Removed) wrote:
> Hi Bill.
> What I want is to connect to the described network from my home.
> Yes, the router is doing NAT for the LAN.
> I want RRAS (or anything else) to allow an incoming connection.
>
> The network is:
>
> internet ---> router (NAT) ---> XP pc's and WinSvr2003
> All the Pc's (including WS2003) has in TCP/IP properties:
>
> IP Dir. 192.168.0.x
> Submask. 255.255.255.0
> Gatway: 192.168.0.1 (this is the router IP)
>
> DNS (both) are left in blank.
>
> Thanks
>
>
> Bill Grant ha escrito:
>
>> RRAS can be both a router and a remote access server. If you already
>> have a router, what do you want RRAS to do? Is the router already
>> doing NAT for your LAN? Do you want to set up RRAS to allow an
>> incoming VPN connection?
>>
>> (E-Mail Removed) wrote:
>>> Hi, Hope you can help me. Sorry my bad english.
>>>
>>> The network has 1 WinSvr2003 and n WinXp working in workgroup (not
>>> domain).
>>> They connect to a router (gateway).
>>> I think that the rras server must be in the pc that receives(or
>>> control) the internet connection, but in this case that "PC" is the
>>> router!!!!!
>>>
>>> If I run the RRAS wizard in the WinSvr2003, will it work????
>>> Any consideration??
>>>
>>> Thanks

Thanks for your super fast and extenden answer. I'll try and let you
know what happend.

By the way. I've already tried to install RRAS (only that part or the
process you mentioned), and the problem was that the server disapeard
from then network. Unistalling RRAS let me ping IP but not name to the
server. The problem was that RRAS put "Disable Netbios over TCP/IP" in
Wins parameter.
Will this problem be solve with the process you mentioned?? Should I
left it disabled netbio ver tcpip?
The server needs 2 nic??

Thanks again

NO, you do not need two NICs in the server. The VPN data is received
through the LAN NIC.

RRAS does not change the Netbios over TCP/IP setting. I suspect you
accidently set up packet filters.

(E-Mail Removed) wrote:
> Thanks for your super fast and extenden answer. I'll try and let you
> know what happend.
>
> By the way. I've already tried to install RRAS (only that part or the
> process you mentioned), and the problem was that the server disapeard
> from then network. Unistalling RRAS let me ping IP but not name to the
> server. The problem was that RRAS put "Disable Netbios over TCP/IP" in
> Wins parameter.
> Will this problem be solve with the process you mentioned?? Should I
> left it disabled netbio ver tcpip?
> The server needs 2 nic??
>
> Thanks again

Hi,

Thanks for your answer. Your comments were really usefull.
One more question.

My home ADSL is 1Mb. The office ADSL is 800Kb. When the conexion is
established it take about 20seconds to show a folder content. Is it
normal??

Thanks


Bill Grant ha escrito:

> NO, you do not need two NICs in the server. The VPN data is received
> through the LAN NIC.
>
> RRAS does not change the Netbios over TCP/IP setting. I suspect you
> accidently set up packet filters.
>
> (E-Mail Removed) wrote:
> > Thanks for your super fast and extenden answer. I'll try and let you
> > know what happend.
> >
> > By the way. I've already tried to install RRAS (only that part or the
> > process you mentioned), and the problem was that the server disapeard
> > from then network. Unistalling RRAS let me ping IP but not name to the
> > server. The problem was that RRAS put "Disable Netbios over TCP/IP" in
> > Wins parameter.
> > Will this problem be solve with the process you mentioned?? Should I
> > left it disabled netbio ver tcpip?
> > The server needs 2 nic??
> >
> > Thanks again