[MS WinXP Home 2002 - SP3; OE 6; IE 8; MS Office Pro; Avast Antivir Free;
Dell Dimension XPS T448MHz Pentium III; 640 MB RAM; high speed cable;
Windows Media Player; Adobe Reader 8; Adobe Flash Player 10 Activex..]

Hello, could someone tell me why the following and if there's a way around
it please?:

When I go to Startup to uncheck some programs to speed up the computer, it
always appears a popup window saying that I changed the Configuration
Utility to "Selective" or "Diagnostic" and that I should change it back to
"Standard"... This defeats the purpose for which so many techis recommend to
uncheck some of these programs. If there's a way to go around it, could
someone help?

Thanks so much for a suggestion. Adela

On 26 July, 05:09, "Adela" <nuevade...@rcn.com> wrote:
> [MS WinXP Home 2002 - *SP3; OE 6; IE 8; MS Office Pro; Avast Antivir Free;
> Dell Dimension XPS T448MHz Pentium III; 640 MB RAM; high speed cable;
> Windows Media Player; Adobe Reader 8; Adobe Flash Player 10 Activex..]
>
> Hello, could someone tell me why the following and if there's a way around
> it please?:
>
> When I go to Startup to uncheck some programs to speed up the computer, it
> always appears a popup window saying that I changed the Configuration
> Utility to "Selective" or "Diagnostic" and that I should change it back to
> "Standard"... This defeats the purpose for which so many techis recommendto
> uncheck some of these programs. *If there's a way to go around it, could
> someone help?
>
> Thanks so much for a suggestion. * * * * Adela

I use Startup Control Panel myself:

http://www.mlin.net/StartupCPL.shtml

Martin.

> I use Startup Control Panel myself:
>
> http://www.mlin.net/StartupCPL.shtml
>

IMO Sysinternals Autoruns is much better:

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/s.../bb963902.aspx


Cheers
Dave F.

WinPatrol (Free Edition)
http://www.winpatrol.com/download.html

WinPatrol will prevent programs from enabling at startup without your
permission.

"Adela" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> [MS WinXP Home 2002 - SP3; OE 6; IE 8; MS Office Pro; Avast Antivir Free;
> Dell Dimension XPS T448MHz Pentium III; 640 MB RAM; high speed cable;
> Windows Media Player; Adobe Reader 8; Adobe Flash Player 10 Activex..]
>
> Hello, could someone tell me why the following and if there's a way around
> it please?:
>
> When I go to Startup to uncheck some programs to speed up the computer, it
> always appears a popup window saying that I changed the Configuration
> Utility to "Selective" or "Diagnostic" and that I should change it back to
> "Standard"... This defeats the purpose for which so many techis recommend
> to uncheck some of these programs. If there's a way to go around it,
> could someone help?
>
> Thanks so much for a suggestion. Adela
>

Bob wrote:

> WinPatrol (Free Edition)
> http://www.winpatrol.com/download.html
>
> WinPatrol will prevent programs from enabling at startup without your
> permission.
>
> "Adela" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
>> [MS WinXP Home 2002 - SP3; OE 6; IE 8; MS Office Pro; Avast Antivir Free;
>> Dell Dimension XPS T448MHz Pentium III; 640 MB RAM; high speed cable;
>> Windows Media Player; Adobe Reader 8; Adobe Flash Player 10 Activex..]
>>
>> Hello, could someone tell me why the following and if there's a way around
>> it please?:
>>
>> When I go to Startup to uncheck some programs to speed up the computer, it
>> always appears a popup window saying that I changed the Configuration
>> Utility to "Selective" or "Diagnostic" and that I should change it back to
>> "Standard"... This defeats the purpose for which so many techis recommend
>> to uncheck some of these programs. If there's a way to go around it,
>> could someone help?
>>
>> Thanks so much for a suggestion. Adela
>>

To be accurate, the free version of WinPatrol does not immediately check
for changes to the startup items. It can only poll for changes (with 1
minute interval being the shortest poll interval). That means it can
never tell you what process made the change because it detects the
change long after it was made. Rather than catching the change
immediately and pending it awaiting your approval, it checks at
intervals if any changes were made in the areas that it monitors. It
then alerts you to the old change and offers to change it for you.

This method won't always work. It is possible, for example, for malware
to define itself as a service with restricted permissions on its
registry keys that won't allow a normal delete of the registry item.
You have to use the registry editor to change privileges on the key to
all Everyone to have full rights and then you can delete the key (but
sometimes this doesn't work as the service was defined as a System
service and even an admin can't delete it).

Both WinPatrol and Microsoft's old WinDefender work the same way. They
don't pend a change to then let you allow or block it. They tell you
sometime AFTER the change has been made and *perhaps* they may delete
those changes. However, it is handy to KNOW that a change has been made
so you can decide on what action to take. Alas, like many HIPS
programs, many if not most users of them don't understand the prompts so
they don't know how to act on them. The result is they end up allowing
all the changes so installing the HIPS program was worthless.

WinPatrol is less invasive than other security products but then the
free version doesn't include an on-access scanner. It polls for
changes. I don't remember what all are the default timer values for
each type of check it peforms but several are several minutes long. By
the time you get its prompt, you might not remember what you were doing
many minutes before. I'd suggest lowering all the timers to the
1-minute interval which is the shortest available in the free version.
WinPatrol has value but it's like telling you that your tire blew out
rather than warning you beforehand that it is underinflated.

Thank you, and I did, but it remains that what's the purpose of this
activity if I must revert it?


"VanguardLH" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:i2j8f7$s3f$(E-Mail Removed)...
> Adela wrote:
>
>> [MS WinXP Home 2002 - SP3; OE 6; IE 8; MS Office Pro; Avast Antivir
>> Free;
>> Dell Dimension XPS T448MHz Pentium III; 640 MB RAM; high speed cable;
>> Windows Media Player; Adobe Reader 8; Adobe Flash Player 10 Activex..]
>>
>> Hello, could someone tell me why the following and if there's a way
>> around
>> it please?:
>>
>> When I go to Startup to uncheck some programs to speed up the computer,
>> it
>> always appears a popup window saying that I changed the Configuration
>> Utility to "Selective" or "Diagnostic" and that I should change it back
>> to
>> "Standard"... This defeats the purpose for which so many techis recommend
>> to
>> uncheck some of these programs. If there's a way to go around it, could
>> someone help?
>>
>> Thanks so much for a suggestion. Adela
>
> Why not check the box already in that prompt that says not to prompt you
> again?

Thank for this link Martin, I'll try it. Adela


"Martin" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:7f6d5b08-716d-40e5-92f2-(E-Mail Removed)...
On 26 July, 05:09, "Adela" <nuevade...@rcn.com> wrote:
> [MS WinXP Home 2002 - SP3; OE 6; IE 8; MS Office Pro; Avast Antivir Free;
> Dell Dimension XPS T448MHz Pentium III; 640 MB RAM; high speed cable;
> Windows Media Player; Adobe Reader 8; Adobe Flash Player 10 Activex..]
>
> Hello, could someone tell me why the following and if there's a way around
> it please?:
>
> When I go to Startup to uncheck some programs to speed up the computer, it
> always appears a popup window saying that I changed the Configuration
> Utility to "Selective" or "Diagnostic" and that I should change it back to
> "Standard"... This defeats the purpose for which so many techis recommend
> to
> uncheck some of these programs. If there's a way to go around it, could
> someone help?
>
> Thanks so much for a suggestion. Adela

I use Startup Control Panel myself:

http://www.mlin.net/StartupCPL.shtml

Martin.

Oh thank you too Dave, I'll use this one as well! ) Adela


"Dave F." <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>
>> I use Startup Control Panel myself:
>>
>> http://www.mlin.net/StartupCPL.shtml
>>
>
> IMO Sysinternals Autoruns is much better:
>
> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/s.../bb963902.aspx
>
>
> Cheers
> Dave F.

Oh thank you, I'm going to try all of them and see what happens!
:But....the fact that it does something without my permission is ok?
(Though I wouldn't know whether or not to give it to....) lol! Adela


"Bob" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:i2k6se$lfc$(E-Mail Removed)...
> WinPatrol (Free Edition)
> http://www.winpatrol.com/download.html
>
> WinPatrol will prevent programs from enabling at startup without your
> permission.
>
> "Adela" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
>> [MS WinXP Home 2002 - SP3; OE 6; IE 8; MS Office Pro; Avast Antivir
>> Free; Dell Dimension XPS T448MHz Pentium III; 640 MB RAM; high speed
>> cable; Windows Media Player; Adobe Reader 8; Adobe Flash Player 10
>> Activex..]
>>
>> Hello, could someone tell me why the following and if there's a way
>> around it please?:
>>
>> When I go to Startup to uncheck some programs to speed up the computer,
>> it always appears a popup window saying that I changed the Configuration
>> Utility to "Selective" or "Diagnostic" and that I should change it back
>> to "Standard"... This defeats the purpose for which so many techis
>> recommend to uncheck some of these programs. If there's a way to go
>> around it, could someone help?
>>
>> Thanks so much for a suggestion. Adela
>>
>

Thank you, Vanguard, I don't intend to change my registry as I'm afraid to
cause a bad damage, but I may use the WinPatrol -with caution- and see
what happens. Thansk again! Adela


"VanguardLH" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:i2kef5$n20$(E-Mail Removed)...
> Bob wrote:
>
>> WinPatrol (Free Edition)
>> http://www.winpatrol.com/download.html
>>
>> WinPatrol will prevent programs from enabling at startup without your
>> permission.
>>
>> "Adela" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> [MS WinXP Home 2002 - SP3; OE 6; IE 8; MS Office Pro; Avast Antivir
>>> Free;
>>> Dell Dimension XPS T448MHz Pentium III; 640 MB RAM; high speed cable;
>>> Windows Media Player; Adobe Reader 8; Adobe Flash Player 10 Activex..]
>>>
>>> Hello, could someone tell me why the following and if there's a way
>>> around
>>> it please?:
>>>
>>> When I go to Startup to uncheck some programs to speed up the computer,
>>> it
>>> always appears a popup window saying that I changed the Configuration
>>> Utility to "Selective" or "Diagnostic" and that I should change it back
>>> to
>>> "Standard"... This defeats the purpose for which so many techis
>>> recommend
>>> to uncheck some of these programs. If there's a way to go around it,
>>> could someone help?
>>>
>>> Thanks so much for a suggestion. Adela
>>>
>
> To be accurate, the free version of WinPatrol does not immediately check
> for changes to the startup items. It can only poll for changes (with 1
> minute interval being the shortest poll interval). That means it can
> never tell you what process made the change because it detects the
> change long after it was made. Rather than catching the change
> immediately and pending it awaiting your approval, it checks at
> intervals if any changes were made in the areas that it monitors. It
> then alerts you to the old change and offers to change it for you.
>
> This method won't always work. It is possible, for example, for malware
> to define itself as a service with restricted permissions on its
> registry keys that won't allow a normal delete of the registry item.
> You have to use the registry editor to change privileges on the key to
> all Everyone to have full rights and then you can delete the key (but
> sometimes this doesn't work as the service was defined as a System
> service and even an admin can't delete it).
>
> Both WinPatrol and Microsoft's old WinDefender work the same way. They
> don't pend a change to then let you allow or block it. They tell you
> sometime AFTER the change has been made and *perhaps* they may delete
> those changes. However, it is handy to KNOW that a change has been made
> so you can decide on what action to take. Alas, like many HIPS
> programs, many if not most users of them don't understand the prompts so
> they don't know how to act on them. The result is they end up allowing
> all the changes so installing the HIPS program was worthless.
>
> WinPatrol is less invasive than other security products but then the
> free version doesn't include an on-access scanner. It polls for
> changes. I don't remember what all are the default timer values for
> each type of check it peforms but several are several minutes long. By
> the time you get its prompt, you might not remember what you were doing
> many minutes before. I'd suggest lowering all the timers to the
> 1-minute interval which is the shortest available in the free version.
> WinPatrol has value but it's like telling you that your tire blew out
> rather than warning you beforehand that it is underinflated.