We have 2 subnets:

192.168.1.*
192.168.200.*

When I do a net view I can only see computers from the 192.168.1.* subnet.

I am on the 200 subnet and can ping any machine on the network and connect
to there file shares and stuff but when I browse the network I dont see the
200 subnet....

Can anyone tell me why half my machines are hidden?

Thanks,
Grant

Grant wrote:
> We have 2 subnets:
>
> 192.168.1.*
> 192.168.200.*
>
> When I do a net view I can only see computers from the 192.168.1.* subnet.
>
> I am on the 200 subnet and can ping any machine on the network and connect
> to there file shares and stuff but when I browse the network I dont see the
> 200 subnet....
>
> Can anyone tell me why half my machines are hidden?
>
> Thanks,
> Grant
>
>
doesn't net view use a broadcast? A broadcast does not normally
traverse a router.

--

Daniel
MCSE, MCP+I, MCP in Windows 2000/NT

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remove the 2nd madrid from my mail address to contact me.

Wierd thing is I am on the .200 subnet which means I shouldnt see the .1
subnet ....

The server has two network cards configured for the same subnet (.200)-
would that cause a problem?

"Daniel" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Grant wrote:
>> We have 2 subnets:
>>
>> 192.168.1.*
>> 192.168.200.*
>>
>> When I do a net view I can only see computers from the 192.168.1.*
>> subnet.
>>
>> I am on the 200 subnet and can ping any machine on the network and
>> connect to there file shares and stuff but when I browse the network I
>> dont see the 200 subnet....
>>
>> Can anyone tell me why half my machines are hidden?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Grant
> doesn't net view use a broadcast? A broadcast does not normally traverse
> a router.
>
> --
>
> Daniel
> MCSE, MCP+I, MCP in Windows 2000/NT
>
> --------------------------------------
> remove the 2nd madrid from my mail address to contact me.

Are you using WINS ?


"Grant" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Wierd thing is I am on the .200 subnet which means I shouldnt see the .1
> subnet ....
>
> The server has two network cards configured for the same subnet (.200)-
> would that cause a problem?
>
> "Daniel" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Grant wrote:
>>> We have 2 subnets:
>>>
>>> 192.168.1.*
>>> 192.168.200.*
>>>
>>> When I do a net view I can only see computers from the 192.168.1.*
>>> subnet.
>>>
>>> I am on the 200 subnet and can ping any machine on the network and
>>> connect to there file shares and stuff but when I browse the network I
>>> dont see the 200 subnet....
>>>
>>> Can anyone tell me why half my machines are hidden?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Grant
>> doesn't net view use a broadcast? A broadcast does not normally traverse
>> a router.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Daniel
>> MCSE, MCP+I, MCP in Windows 2000/NT
>>
>> --------------------------------------
>> remove the 2nd madrid from my mail address to contact me.
>
>

"Grant" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> >> Can anyone tell me why half my machines are hidden?

Half aren't using a WINS Server and half are.

--

Phillip Windell [MCP, MVP, CCNA]
www.wandtv.com

Yes I am using Wins. When I search all records in the WINS database all
machines are found. Sould I get rid of WINS?

Looking through the event logs shows that theres also a browser war going on
between machines. Im getting 2 types of errors in the event log repeatedly:

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Event ID: 8021
The browser service was unable to retrieve a list of servers from the
browser master \\machinename on the network
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{17C84128-D36D-4981-9974-2616A07EE8AE}.
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Event ID: 8032
The browser service has failed to retrieve the backup list too many times on
transport \Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{17C84128-D36D-4981-9974-2616A07EE8AE}. The
backup browser is stopping.
----------------------------------

help.....




"Gary D" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Are you using WINS ?
>
>
> "Grant" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Wierd thing is I am on the .200 subnet which means I shouldnt see the .1
>> subnet ....
>>
>> The server has two network cards configured for the same subnet (.200)-
>> would that cause a problem?
>>
>> "Daniel" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> Grant wrote:
>>>> We have 2 subnets:
>>>>
>>>> 192.168.1.*
>>>> 192.168.200.*
>>>>
>>>> When I do a net view I can only see computers from the 192.168.1.*
>>>> subnet.
>>>>
>>>> I am on the 200 subnet and can ping any machine on the network and
>>>> connect to there file shares and stuff but when I browse the network I
>>>> dont see the 200 subnet....
>>>>
>>>> Can anyone tell me why half my machines are hidden?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Grant
>>> doesn't net view use a broadcast? A broadcast does not normally
>>> traverse a router.
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Daniel
>>> MCSE, MCP+I, MCP in Windows 2000/NT
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------
>>> remove the 2nd madrid from my mail address to contact me.
>>
>>
>
>

Lost .200 view may be caused by initial "Duplicate name exist" error and its
resolution.

I moved DHCP to a new server and one of the client machines got a duplicate
IP address error message yesterday. Is that what you mean? Is there a way
to clear this error database and start again?

"Jetro" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Lost .200 view may be caused by initial "Duplicate name exist" error and
> its
> resolution.
>

Just do a "release/renew" on the machine. It will not be a lasting problem.
Don't mess with anything.

--

Phillip Windell [MCP, MVP, CCNA]
www.wandtv.com

"Grant" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> I moved DHCP to a new server and one of the client machines got a
duplicate
> IP address error message yesterday. Is that what you mean? Is there a way
> to clear this error database and start again?
>
> "Jetro" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Lost .200 view may be caused by initial "Duplicate name exist" error and
> > its
> > resolution.
> >
>
>

DHCP servers are supposed to check to see if an ip address is on the
network. if it doesn't find it then it will pass out that il address.

One thing that i did before moving DHCP was to set the exporation for a DHPC
ip was down to about 15 min. That way the computer would request a new ip
address sooner rather than later. Standard time out is 1 day i think not
sure. I have mine set to 8 because of the amount of guest that come in and
out of the office. It allows for IPs not to be taken up all day long if we
run out.

As far as your Browser war is conserned -- i have that problem also because
of subnetting. I'm running about 50 different subnet through Cisco routers.
and 4 states. If i use ip helper address through the routers to pass out
DHPC to those locations on there subnet (my DHCP scope is huge BTW) and
don't cut off other ports on the router .. everything would be at war
because a computer on each subnet will want a master browers for there
subnet. Windows 98 computers will also cause Browser issues. They don't
understand windows 2000 and above.

If you are not running a router between your subnets then you should make
your DHCP and Master DC servers 255.0.0.0 class A or even a class B
255.255.0.0 sub net. The server will see both subnets.. and just give the
server 2 different ip address.. i.e. 192.168.1.1 and 192.168.200.1 DHCP
server can be 192.168.1.2 and 192.168.200.2. i only have 1 ip and a class A
subnet on my corp lan the servers have no issues seeing all comuters across
the WAN.

One other thing to note is that if you wish to no tmake your servers have 2
IPs / class AorB subnet / 2 subnets. Then you need a router on your network
behind the firewall that will route that traffic to different computers.

if you want all computers to see all computers then subnet for all should be
255.255.0.0 for a 192.168.xxx.xxx network... all computers from 192.168.1.1
to 192.168.254.254 (192.168.255.255 is a broad cast) that should also fix
the problem because they are all part of the same subnet.


"Phillip Windell" <@.> wrote in message
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> Just do a "release/renew" on the machine. It will not be a lasting
problem.
> Don't mess with anything.
>
> --
>
> Phillip Windell [MCP, MVP, CCNA]
> www.wandtv.com
>
> "Grant" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> > I moved DHCP to a new server and one of the client machines got a
> duplicate
> > IP address error message yesterday. Is that what you mean? Is there a
way
> > to clear this error database and start again?
> >
> > "Jetro" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > Lost .200 view may be caused by initial "Duplicate name exist" error
and
> > > its
> > > resolution.
> > >
> >
> >
>
>