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MASTER
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      22nd Jan 2011
I got the new power supply, a diablotek model no. PSEL500 with the
following spec's.
AC INPUT CURRENT 8A (RMS) for 115VAC input
5A (RMS) for 230VAC input
AC INPUT 115V/230V-60/50 HZ
DC OUTPUT +3.3V +5V +12V -12V +5VSB
MAX COMBINED WATTAGE 28A 30A 25A 0.5A 2A
500W
Specifications for connectors
1x 20/24 pin motherboard connector
1x 4/8 pin motherboard connector
1x 6/8 pin PCI-E connector
4x 4 pin molex connectors
1x 4 pin floppy power connector
2x SATA connectors
1x 12CM fan connector

When installed the computer did get past the bios and went into start
up for windows but then it restarted on it's own and froze in bios. I
had to do a hard shut down and then restarted and I went into bios to
verify that it was reading the SATA dvd burner and it did on SATA 1.
I saved the new configuration and then let it restart and it then went
all the way into windows. I went into device manager and checked it
and it was listed and no problems with it. I have not done a test
burn on it as I don't have anything to burn to dvd as of yet.

So I guess the problem I was having to begin with as a very old and
outdated power supply and I was able to solve it with a good and
inexpensive new one for $19.95 at micro center mall and I am lucky
enough to live in a city with one of the stores nearby. The only
negative remark I had ever read about this particular power supply was
that it was loud but one other person had said it was quiet and I can
verify that I am sitting 3 feet from it and it I can not hear a thing.
I hope my experience will be able to help anyone else who might run
into the same type of problem I had.
 
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VanguardLH
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      22nd Jan 2011
MASTER wrote:

> .. I was able to solve it with a good and
> inexpensive new one for $19.95 ...


Inexpensive? Yes.
Good? No.
 
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peter
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      22nd Jan 2011
?hate to disillusion you but..

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2010/...upply_review/9

peter



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or disruptive,please ignore it.
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to me and I will be only too happy to demonstrate :-)
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I got the new power supply, a diablotek model no. PSEL500 with the
following spec's.
AC INPUT CURRENT 8A (RMS) for 115VAC input
5A (RMS) for 230VAC input
AC INPUT 115V/230V-60/50 HZ
DC OUTPUT +3.3V +5V +12V -12V +5VSB
MAX COMBINED WATTAGE 28A 30A 25A 0.5A 2A
500W
Specifications for connectors
1x 20/24 pin motherboard connector
1x 4/8 pin motherboard connector
1x 6/8 pin PCI-E connector
4x 4 pin molex connectors
1x 4 pin floppy power connector
2x SATA connectors
1x 12CM fan connector

When installed the computer did get past the bios and went into start
up for windows but then it restarted on it's own and froze in bios. I
had to do a hard shut down and then restarted and I went into bios to
verify that it was reading the SATA dvd burner and it did on SATA 1.
I saved the new configuration and then let it restart and it then went
all the way into windows. I went into device manager and checked it
and it was listed and no problems with it. I have not done a test
burn on it as I don't have anything to burn to dvd as of yet.

So I guess the problem I was having to begin with as a very old and
outdated power supply and I was able to solve it with a good and
inexpensive new one for $19.95 at micro center mall and I am lucky
enough to live in a city with one of the stores nearby. The only
negative remark I had ever read about this particular power supply was
that it was loud but one other person had said it was quiet and I can
verify that I am sitting 3 feet from it and it I can not hear a thing.
I hope my experience will be able to help anyone else who might run
into the same type of problem I had.

 
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MASTER
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      23rd Jan 2011
On Sat, 22 Jan 2011 14:52:34 -0700, "peter" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>?hate to disillusion you but..
>
>http://www.hardocp.com/article/2010/...upply_review/9
>
>peter


I hate to disillusion you Peter but this is a review for a different
power supply and a long time ago and not recent. I think you should
investigate stuff first before putting out misleading information.
>
>
>
>If you find a posting or message from me offensive,inappropriate
>or disruptive,please ignore it.
>If you dont know how to ignore a posting complain
>to me and I will be only too happy to demonstrate :-)
>"MASTER" wrote in message
>news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>
>I got the new power supply, a diablotek model no. PSEL500 with the
>following spec's.
>AC INPUT CURRENT 8A (RMS) for 115VAC input
> 5A (RMS) for 230VAC input
>AC INPUT 115V/230V-60/50 HZ
>DC OUTPUT +3.3V +5V +12V -12V +5VSB
>MAX COMBINED WATTAGE 28A 30A 25A 0.5A 2A
> 500W
>Specifications for connectors
>1x 20/24 pin motherboard connector
>1x 4/8 pin motherboard connector
>1x 6/8 pin PCI-E connector
>4x 4 pin molex connectors
>1x 4 pin floppy power connector
>2x SATA connectors
>1x 12CM fan connector
>
>When installed the computer did get past the bios and went into start
>up for windows but then it restarted on it's own and froze in bios. I
>had to do a hard shut down and then restarted and I went into bios to
>verify that it was reading the SATA dvd burner and it did on SATA 1.
>I saved the new configuration and then let it restart and it then went
>all the way into windows. I went into device manager and checked it
>and it was listed and no problems with it. I have not done a test
>burn on it as I don't have anything to burn to dvd as of yet.
>
>So I guess the problem I was having to begin with as a very old and
>outdated power supply and I was able to solve it with a good and
>inexpensive new one for $19.95 at micro center mall and I am lucky
>enough to live in a city with one of the stores nearby. The only
>negative remark I had ever read about this particular power supply was
>that it was loud but one other person had said it was quiet and I can
>verify that I am sitting 3 feet from it and it I can not hear a thing.
>I hope my experience will be able to help anyone else who might run
>into the same type of problem I had.

 
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MASTER
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      23rd Jan 2011
On Sat, 22 Jan 2011 13:41:43 -0600, VanguardLH <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>MASTER wrote:
>
>> .. I was able to solve it with a good and
>> inexpensive new one for $19.95 ...

>
>Inexpensive? Yes.
>Good? No.


Good yes very much so. You should do your homework first before
putting out misleading information.
 
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      23rd Jan 2011
MASTER wrote:

> VanguardLH wrote:
>
>> MASTER wrote:
>>
>>> .. I was able to solve it with a good and inexpensive new one for
>>> $19.95 ...

>>
>> Inexpensive? Yes.
>> Good? No.

>
> Good yes very much so. You should do your homework first before
> putting out misleading information.


Oh yes, a 500W PSU that sucks in 920W. Oh yes, all the good PSUs have a
lousy efficiency of only 56% (only 43% for 230VAC), for sure. And here
all this time I was thinking a high efficiency was one indicator of a
good PSU. Next time I'll hunt around for a 10% efficient PSU and it'll
be super fantastic, uh huh.

If you get around to fabricating a test appliance and try to pull a
*sustained* 500W, first turn off the smoke detectors in your home.
 
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      23rd Jan 2011
In article <ihgiaa$l5$(E-Mail Removed)>, VanguardLH <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>MASTER wrote:
>
>> VanguardLH wrote:
>>
>>> MASTER wrote:
>>>
>>>> .. I was able to solve it with a good and inexpensive new one for
>>>> $19.95 ...
>>>
>>> Inexpensive? Yes.
>>> Good? No.

>>
>> Good yes very much so. You should do your homework first before
>> putting out misleading information.

>
>Oh yes, a 500W PSU that sucks in 920W. Oh yes, all the good PSUs have a
>lousy efficiency of only 56% (only 43% for 230VAC), for sure. And here
>all this time I was thinking a high efficiency was one indicator of a
>good PSU. Next time I'll hunt around for a 10% efficient PSU and it'll
>be super fantastic, uh huh.
>
>If you get around to fabricating a test appliance and try to pull a
>*sustained* 500W, first turn off the smoke detectors in your home.



see here


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JP8nF...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i04p7nQZTyk

 
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      23rd Jan 2011
In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, MASTER <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>On Sat, 22 Jan 2011 14:52:34 -0700, "peter" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>>?hate to disillusion you but..
>>
>>http://www.hardocp.com/article/2010/...power_supply_r

>eview/9
>>
>>peter

>
>I hate to disillusion you Peter but this is a review for a different
>power supply and a long time ago and not recent. I think you should
>investigate stuff first before putting out misleading information.
>>
>>


Well i've never known a crap manufacturer to ever start making good products.
 
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VanguardLH
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      23rd Jan 2011
GMAN wrote:

> VanguardLH wrote:
>>
>>MASTER wrote:
>>
>>> VanguardLH wrote:
>>>
>>>> MASTER wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> .. I was able to solve it with a good and inexpensive new one for
>>>>> $19.95 ...
>>>>
>>>> Inexpensive? Yes.
>>>> Good? No.
>>>
>>> Good yes very much so. You should do your homework first before
>>> putting out misleading information.

>>
>>Oh yes, a 500W PSU that sucks in 920W. Oh yes, all the good PSUs have a
>>lousy efficiency of only 56% (only 43% for 230VAC), for sure. And here
>>all this time I was thinking a high efficiency was one indicator of a
>>good PSU. Next time I'll hunt around for a 10% efficient PSU and it'll
>>be super fantastic, uh huh.
>>
>>If you get around to fabricating a test appliance and try to pull a
>>*sustained* 500W, first turn off the smoke detectors in your home.

>
> see here
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JP8nF...eature=related
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i04p7nQZTyk


I always figure with cheap PSUs to never put more than two-thirds of its
rated load on it. They usually don't measure up to three-quarters of
their rating and you need a buffer to ensure safety and survivability.
A better PSUs is one you can *overload* continuously by, say, 10%; i.e.,
the PSU is under-rated. Of course, it helps to actually test the PSU to
determine if it is under- or over-rated but the test is usually
destructive so it's used to determine likelihood of a good vendor.

I think the 2nd video is rigged. Could be 230VAC was connected to the
PSU setup or fixed for use at 115VAC, or it was defective, or the
outputs were shorted (and this is a cheap one that doesn't regulate
against over-amperage draw). I haven't seen or had a user mention such
an explosive failure of their PSU but I have had plenty buying $20 PSUs
that mention hearing a loud pop or just smelling the burning plastic on
the internal wiring or components (very stinky, highly recognizable).
 
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SteveH
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      24th Jan 2011
MASTER wrote:
> On Sat, 22 Jan 2011 14:52:34 -0700, "peter" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
> I hate to disillusion you Peter but this is a review for a different
> power supply and a long time ago and not recent. I think you should
> investigate stuff first before putting out misleading information.
>>


Well when your 'bargain' PSU blows and takes some or all of your PC's
components with it, do come back and tell us all.how you enjoyed the
experience.

--
SteveH


 
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