Hey all,
I recently purchased a Thermaltake Pipe 101 cl-p0006 heat sink with a
Thermaltake 90mm silent cat a2013 fan. I installed them on a P4 Intel
board (model #BOXD865PERLL). Now the computer will not boot. The new
heat sink fan works as do all the other fans on the board as well as
all the lights on the board. I can even hear the hard drive start, but
it does not boot.
Does anyone know what I did wrong? What can I do to fix this?

(E-Mail Removed) wrote:
> Hey all,
> I recently purchased a Thermaltake Pipe 101 cl-p0006 heat sink with a
> Thermaltake 90mm silent cat a2013 fan. I installed them on a P4 Intel
> board (model #BOXD865PERLL). Now the computer will not boot. The new
> heat sink fan works as do all the other fans on the board as well as
> all the lights on the board. I can even hear the hard drive start, but
> it does not boot.
> Does anyone know what I did wrong? What can I do to fix this?
>

First of all, did the new heat sink come with its own thermal compound
material stuck to the bottom of it? If not, then did you apply your own
thermal compound material between the heatsink bottom and the CPU top?

Yousuf Khan

It came with a tube of thermal compound. I put some on. It seemed
like too much so i wiped some off. But I definitely did add the
thermal compound sent with the heat sink.

Yousuf Khan wrote:
> (E-Mail Removed) wrote:
> > Hey all,
> > I recently purchased a Thermaltake Pipe 101 cl-p0006 heat sink with
a
> > Thermaltake 90mm silent cat a2013 fan. I installed them on a P4
Intel
> > board (model #BOXD865PERLL). Now the computer will not boot. The
new
> > heat sink fan works as do all the other fans on the board as well
as
> > all the lights on the board. I can even hear the hard drive start,
but
> > it does not boot.
> > Does anyone know what I did wrong? What can I do to fix this?
> >
>
> First of all, did the new heat sink come with its own thermal
compound
> material stuck to the bottom of it? If not, then did you apply your
own
> thermal compound material between the heatsink bottom and the CPU
top?
>
> Yousuf Khan

"Yousuf Khan" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> (E-Mail Removed) wrote:
> > Hey all,
> > I recently purchased a Thermaltake Pipe 101 cl-p0006 heat sink
with a
> > Thermaltake 90mm silent cat a2013 fan. I installed them on a P4
Intel
> > board (model #BOXD865PERLL). Now the computer will not boot. The
new
> > heat sink fan works as do all the other fans on the board as well
as
> > all the lights on the board. I can even hear the hard drive
start, but
> > it does not boot.
> > Does anyone know what I did wrong? What can I do to fix this?
> >
>
> First of all, did the new heat sink come with its own thermal
compound
> material stuck to the bottom of it? If not, then did you apply your
own
> thermal compound material between the heatsink bottom and the CPU
top?

Assume the heat sink is indeed loosely coupled to the CPU. First, how
fast does the CPU heat up when booting? Second, does not the P4 have
thermal throttling? I think something else - a bent CPU pin, for
instance - may be going on here.

Well, the heat sink feels nice and tight. Doesn't wiggle at all. When
I booted the machine it feels like it gets pretty warm. But Windows
still does not boot. Everything turns on, including the hard drive
which I hear spinning, but there is no beep and Windows never boots.
How can I tell if there is a bent CPU pin? Is this something I can
bend back?

(E-Mail Removed) wrote:
> I recently purchased a Thermaltake Pipe 101 cl-p0006
> heat sink with a Thermaltake 90mm silent cat a2013 fan.
> I installed them on a P4 Intel board (model #BOXD865PERLL).
> Now the computer will not boot. The new heat sink fan works
> as do all the other fans on the board as well as all the
> lights on the board. I can even hear the hard drive start,
> but it does not boot. Does anyone know what I did wrong?

Just just replaced the HSF with the TT pipe? and
a computer that previously was fine won't even beep?

You must have hit something accidentally, or perhaps
damaged the CPU/mobo in removing the old HSF.

Lack-of-grease shouldn't prevent a cold computer from at least
beeping and starting BIOS. The P4 heatslug has some heat
capacity. The P4 hasn't gone "bare die" (AMD style), has it?

-- Robert

Well, i don't know how to tell if it has gone "bare die." Is there a
way to tell?
Could the failure to boot be a fried chip? There doesnt appear to be
any damage on inspection. Further, everything on the mobo starts (all
lights/fans/etc.) Even the hard drive appears to start, just doesnt
boot.

(E-Mail Removed) wrote:
> Well, i don't know how to tell if it has gone "bare die."
> Is there a way to tell?

Sure. Is the top a shiny piece of metal an inch or more
square? That's the heatslug. Or is it a dark chip about a
centimeter square? That's a chipback/bare die.

> Could the failure to boot be a fried chip?

Certainly! The question is how a working chip could have gotten
fried without being removed from it's socket. An AMD could
be overheated, but AFAIK P4's have thermal throttling. And even
without, should have worked once long enough to beep. Most likely,
you dislodged some card, memory or connector.

> There doesnt appear to be any damage on inspection.

You have to know what to look for.

> Further, everything on the mobo starts (all lights/fans/etc.)
> Even the hard drive appears to start, just doesnt boot.

This is mostly meaningless. The HD boots by itself when
it's controller does an IPL from a protected track. The mobo
fans/LEDs are hardwired. The keyboard LEDs are _much_ more
interesting, because they're flashed at boot under CPU control.
Ditto for the beeps.

-- Robert

Thanks for your helo Robert. I will be checking this out when I get
home from work today. Thanks!

First off when u start it up do u hear the cpu beep? and does the bios
come up? if u dont hear the cpu make a little beep that means some
how u unlatched the cpu from the mobo i would check that out!! and
make sure u have a heat conducter like ARCTIV SILVER between the cpu
and heat sink!!!!!!! HOLY CRAP THAT WOULD SUCK IF U DID NOT!