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Shiva
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      20th Feb 2005
Hi,

After installing a new telephone modem I wasn't able to start the computer
after pressing the on/off button. Nothing happened, as if there was no
power.
I pressed the power cable firmly and some other cables too. Suddenly the
computer started running, but it wasn't clear to me after which action. The
computer came up with the message "CMOS checksum error, BIOS defaults
loaded" and started windows xp.
After turning off the computer, I wasn't able to start the computer again. I
decided to open the case but I didn't notice any loose circuits or
something.
I reassembled the computer and guess what, it started running, but it
displayed the message "CMOS checksum error, BIOS defaults loaded" again!

What confuses me is the CMOS-checksum error - if it is just a poor on/off
switch or something, then I do not expect such a error. After all, CMOS does
have its own battery to keep its values.

Some more info:
- motherboard is a P6SET-ML
- Intel Celeron 600 Mhz processor

Any idea's?

Thanks in advance!



 
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kony
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      21st Feb 2005
On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 00:04:40 +0100, "Shiva"
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>Hi,
>
>After installing a new telephone modem I wasn't able to start the computer
>after pressing the on/off button. Nothing happened, as if there was no
>power.
>I pressed the power cable firmly and some other cables too. Suddenly the
>computer started running, but it wasn't clear to me after which action. The
>computer came up with the message "CMOS checksum error, BIOS defaults
>loaded" and started windows xp.
>After turning off the computer, I wasn't able to start the computer again. I
>decided to open the case but I didn't notice any loose circuits or
>something.
>I reassembled the computer and guess what, it started running, but it
>displayed the message "CMOS checksum error, BIOS defaults loaded" again!
>
>What confuses me is the CMOS-checksum error - if it is just a poor on/off
>switch or something, then I do not expect such a error. After all, CMOS does
>have its own battery to keep its values.
>
>Some more info:
>- motherboard is a P6SET-ML
>- Intel Celeron 600 Mhz processor


After it'd displayed the checksum error, did you go into the
bios menus and (even if you change nothing) save the
settings? I suggest you at least set the clock, so if the
battery is bad enough it will be obvious because the clock
is wrong/reset later. Check the battery too.

_IF_ you get the system running stabily, I suggest updating
the bios, as thoose PCChips/ECS boards typically have quite
buggy bios.
 
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WebWalker
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      21st Feb 2005
Death CMOS battery, try to replace it.

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Shiva
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      21st Feb 2005
>
> After it'd displayed the checksum error, did you go into the
> bios menus and (even if you change nothing) save the
> settings? I suggest you at least set the clock, so if the
> battery is bad enough it will be obvious because the clock
> is wrong/reset later. Check the battery too.
>

Yes, I had to set to clock again, it was set at the year 2000 and month
other than february.
I didn't have to change anything in the bios, the clock had been set through
windows xp.

> _IF_ you get the system running stabily, I suggest updating
> the bios, as thoose PCChips/ECS boards typically have quite
> buggy bios.


I had already done that, I've got the most recent version.


 
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Shiva
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      21st Feb 2005

> Death CMOS battery, try to replace it.
>

A dead CMOS battery explains the CMOS checksum error.. I guess that's
obvious. But does a dead battery also cause the computer not to turn on at
all?


 
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kony
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      21st Feb 2005
On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 09:52:07 +0100, "Shiva"
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>>
>> After it'd displayed the checksum error, did you go into the
>> bios menus and (even if you change nothing) save the
>> settings? I suggest you at least set the clock, so if the
>> battery is bad enough it will be obvious because the clock
>> is wrong/reset later. Check the battery too.
>>

>Yes, I had to set to clock again, it was set at the year 2000 and month
>other than february.
>I didn't have to change anything in the bios, the clock had been set through
>windows xp.


Probably dead battery


 
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kony
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      21st Feb 2005
On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 09:54:46 +0100, "Shiva"
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>
>> Death CMOS battery, try to replace it.
>>

>A dead CMOS battery explains the CMOS checksum error.. I guess that's
>obvious. But does a dead battery also cause the computer not to turn on at
>all?
>


It "can". Depends on the board, some will and some won't.
 
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Shiva
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      21st Feb 2005

> Probably dead battery
>
>


I think so too, but does a dead cmos battery also prevent the computer to
power on at all?


 
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Shiva
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      21st Feb 2005

"kony" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 09:54:46 +0100, "Shiva"
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
> >
> >> Death CMOS battery, try to replace it.
> >>

> >A dead CMOS battery explains the CMOS checksum error.. I guess that's
> >obvious. But does a dead battery also cause the computer not to turn on

at
> >all?
> >

>
> It "can". Depends on the board, some will and some won't.


Thanks. I'll try get myself a new battery and hopefully I solves the problem
for once and for all...


 
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Jan Alter
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      21st Feb 2005
Measure the voltage to the battery with a multimeter and you'll know
whether or not it needs replacement. If you don't have a multimeter try
connecting a flashlight bulb and see if it lights. I've never heard of a mb
not powering up simply because the battery was dead, but maybe it's
possible. My experience with the infamous ECS K7S5A mb and its bios has
taught me to avoid ECS completely.

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"Shiva" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:cvb5l6$eg0$(E-Mail Removed)...
> Hi,
>
> After installing a new telephone modem I wasn't able to start the computer
> after pressing the on/off button. Nothing happened, as if there was no
> power.
> I pressed the power cable firmly and some other cables too. Suddenly the
> computer started running, but it wasn't clear to me after which action.
> The computer came up with the message "CMOS checksum error, BIOS defaults
> loaded" and started windows xp.
> After turning off the computer, I wasn't able to start the computer again.
> I decided to open the case but I didn't notice any loose circuits or
> something.
> I reassembled the computer and guess what, it started running, but it
> displayed the message "CMOS checksum error, BIOS defaults loaded" again!
>
> What confuses me is the CMOS-checksum error - if it is just a poor on/off
> switch or something, then I do not expect such a error. After all, CMOS
> does have its own battery to keep its values.
>
> Some more info:
> - motherboard is a P6SET-ML
> - Intel Celeron 600 Mhz processor
>
> Any idea's?
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
>
>



 
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