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Joseph Carrier
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      30th Oct 2005
I use a three computer, wireless "Home Network" to connect my desktop and
two laptops -- all with WinXP(SP2) -- so that I can keep key files
synchronized. All of a sudden, my desktop disappeared from the view of the
two laptops, which can see each other, but the laptops also cannot be seen
by the desktop.

When that happened to me once before, I was able to correct the problem by
using Network Setup Wizard to redo the network setup on the desktop, but it
won't work this time -- and in my fumbling around, I seem to hints that
using my desktop's old name in the new setup may be the problem. Could that
be it? I hate to rename my desktop as that might foul up something else.

The three machines are connected to a DSL modem through a router (the
desktop by
Ethernet cable, the laptops by wireless pc card.) That direct internet
connection works well on all three of the machines.

I would greatly appreciate suggestions about what I should try to get
desktop reunited into my
home network.

Many thanks.

 
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CJT
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      30th Oct 2005
Joseph Carrier wrote:

> I use a three computer, wireless "Home Network" to connect my desktop and
> two laptops -- all with WinXP(SP2) -- so that I can keep key files
> synchronized. All of a sudden, my desktop disappeared from the view of the
> two laptops, which can see each other, but the laptops also cannot be seen
> by the desktop.
>
> When that happened to me once before, I was able to correct the problem by
> using Network Setup Wizard to redo the network setup on the desktop, but it
> won't work this time -- and in my fumbling around, I seem to hints that
> using my desktop's old name in the new setup may be the problem. Could
> that
> be it? I hate to rename my desktop as that might foul up something else.
>
> The three machines are connected to a DSL modem through a router (the
> desktop by
> Ethernet cable, the laptops by wireless pc card.) That direct internet
> connection works well on all three of the machines.
>
> I would greatly appreciate suggestions about what I should try to get
> desktop reunited into my
> home network.
>
> Many thanks.
>

FWIW, Usenet seems to be awash with people having similar problems.
I've never seen a good explanation of what is happening or how to
fix it. Often the threads seem to end with a posting along the lines
of, "... so I re-installed everything and now it works ... "

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Joseph Carrier
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      31st Oct 2005
Thanks for the response.

I think unin- and re-installing will be my solution, too.

I've now verified that my Firewall program is the culprit: the ability to
allow Microsoft Sharing to go through the barrier has somehow vanished from
its options and can't be reconfigured.

So I guess my next step will be to uninstall and reinstall the Firewall
Program -- but not all of Windows XP as I've read some have done out of
frustration.

"CJT" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Joseph Carrier wrote:
>
>> I use a three computer, wireless "Home Network" to connect my desktop and
>> two laptops -- all with WinXP(SP2) -- so that I can keep key files
>> synchronized. All of a sudden, my desktop disappeared from the view of
>> the
>> two laptops, which can see each other, but the laptops also cannot be
>> seen
>> by the desktop.
>>
>> When that happened to me once before, I was able to correct the problem
>> by
>> using Network Setup Wizard to redo the network setup on the desktop, but
>> it
>> won't work this time -- and in my fumbling around, I seem to hints that
>> using my desktop's old name in the new setup may be the problem. Could
>> that
>> be it? I hate to rename my desktop as that might foul up something else.
>>
>> The three machines are connected to a DSL modem through a router (the
>> desktop by
>> Ethernet cable, the laptops by wireless pc card.) That direct internet
>> connection works well on all three of the machines.
>>
>> I would greatly appreciate suggestions about what I should try to get
>> desktop reunited into my
>> home network.
>>
>> Many thanks.
>>

> FWIW, Usenet seems to be awash with people having similar problems.
> I've never seen a good explanation of what is happening or how to
> fix it. Often the threads seem to end with a posting along the lines
> of, "... so I re-installed everything and now it works ... "
>
> --
> The e-mail address in our reply-to line is reversed in an attempt to
> minimize spam. Our true address is of the form che...@prodigy.net.


 
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Paul D.Smith
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      31st Oct 2005

"Joseph Carrier" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Thanks for the response.
>
> I think unin- and re-installing will be my solution, too.
>
> I've now verified that my Firewall program is the culprit: the ability to
> allow Microsoft Sharing to go through the barrier has somehow vanished

from
> its options and can't be reconfigured.
>
> So I guess my next step will be to uninstall and reinstall the Firewall
> Program -- but not all of Windows XP as I've read some have done out of
> frustration.


Umm, any chance you're using DHCP and the IP address of your machine
changed? If you set your firewall up to allow "IP address X through" and
then the IP address changes to "Y" because DHCP expires and assigns you a
new address, you might see this.

If you suspect this, you could try either of the following...

1. Modify your firewall settings to allow a subnet through e.g. 192.168.0.X
2. Get your router/DHCP server to reserve a specific IP address for each
machine (MAC address) and then no matter what happens, each machine gets
give the same IP address every time.

Paul DS.


 
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Joseph Carrier
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      8th Nov 2005
Many thanks for your response. You've opened up a new world to me -- but
I've come to a roadblock again.

First, let me clarify that I can view both the Desktop's and the Laptop's
Alpha folder side-by-side in either computer. I can't do that with the Beta
folder, though. (In real life, there is only one Alpha folder and about
eight Beta's.)

I'm the only user of both computers, so I guess I'm the Administrator, and I
log in as the only named user. (I use the Home Edition of WinXP SP2 and
both computers connect directly to the internet via a DSL modem/router.

In trying to follow your suggestions, the first thing I did was to
START>SEARCH>COMPUTERS on each machine. On Desktop, there are two entries
for Laptop, and on Laptop, there are two entries for Desktop. Why are there
double entries, I wonder? Need I do something about that? If so what --
just delete one of the entries?

Next, I did a search on "permissions" in the START>HELP window and
discovered a new world. I got a long list of hits. I then clicked on
"Grant incoming connection access rights to your computer." That brought
up instructions that began with "Open Network Connections," which I did.
The instructions then say to click on "change settings of this connection"
but I don't have such an item listed under network tasks, so I'm at a dead
end.

Could it be that such an entry exists only in WinXP Pro?

Your last sentence presents a very appealing solution, but I'm a bit
confused about how I can get the computers to treat the newly created
"Network" folder like Alpha rather than Beta -- so that I can do side by
side comparisons of the files and folders in the two Network folders on
either machine.

I would very much appreciate you continuing comments.



"Paul D.Smith" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> "Joseph Carrier" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:dog9f.1871$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Thanks for the response.
>>
>> I think unin- and re-installing will be my solution, too.
>>
>> I've now verified that my Firewall program is the culprit: the ability to
>> allow Microsoft Sharing to go through the barrier has somehow vanished

> from
>> its options and can't be reconfigured.
>>
>> So I guess my next step will be to uninstall and reinstall the Firewall
>> Program -- but not all of Windows XP as I've read some have done out of
>> frustration.

>
> Umm, any chance you're using DHCP and the IP address of your machine
> changed? If you set your firewall up to allow "IP address X through" and
> then the IP address changes to "Y" because DHCP expires and assigns you a
> new address, you might see this.
>
> If you suspect this, you could try either of the following...
>
> 1. Modify your firewall settings to allow a subnet through e.g.
> 192.168.0.X
> 2. Get your router/DHCP server to reserve a specific IP address for each
> machine (MAC address) and then no matter what happens, each machine gets
> give the same IP address every time.
>
> Paul DS.
>
>


 
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Joseph Carrier
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      9th Nov 2005
My Previous response to your posting is probably puzzling you no end. I
posted it in the wrong place -- Sorry!"

Paul D.Smith" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> "Joseph Carrier" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:dog9f.1871$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Thanks for the response.
>>
>> I think unin- and re-installing will be my solution, too.
>>
>> I've now verified that my Firewall program is the culprit: the ability to
>> allow Microsoft Sharing to go through the barrier has somehow vanished

> from
>> its options and can't be reconfigured.
>>
>> So I guess my next step will be to uninstall and reinstall the Firewall
>> Program -- but not all of Windows XP as I've read some have done out of
>> frustration.

>
> Umm, any chance you're using DHCP and the IP address of your machine
> changed? If you set your firewall up to allow "IP address X through" and
> then the IP address changes to "Y" because DHCP expires and assigns you a
> new address, you might see this.
>
> If you suspect this, you could try either of the following...
>
> 1. Modify your firewall settings to allow a subnet through e.g.
> 192.168.0.X
> 2. Get your router/DHCP server to reserve a specific IP address for each
> machine (MAC address) and then no matter what happens, each machine gets
> give the same IP address every time.
>
> Paul DS.
>
>


 
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