How to speed up computer start up ? I have removed all desktop icons. The
booting is slow because of actions taking place in the 'tray' icons on right
hand bottom corner. One of the icons is for 'HP Product Update'. Other Icon
says "Keep your computer uptodate", then another Icon says "safely romove
hardware". They get loaded one by one with the pop up messages as each one
gets loaded. Can it be eliminated thereby speeding up the computer start up ?
Is there any way to speed up the computer ? What is the 'normal time' to boot
up the computer ? Even after my computer gets booted, I see some action on my
hard disk.

--
Shrikant

"Shrikant" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:8EBEF67F-BCB3-4AAB-B4B7-(E-Mail Removed)...
> How to speed up computer start up ? I have removed all desktop icons. The
> booting is slow because of actions taking place in the 'tray' icons on
> right
> hand bottom corner. One of the icons is for 'HP Product Update'. Other
> Icon
> says "Keep your computer uptodate", then another Icon says "safely romove
> hardware". They get loaded one by one with the pop up messages as each one
> gets loaded. Can it be eliminated thereby speeding up the computer start
> up ?
> Is there any way to speed up the computer ? What is the 'normal time' to
> boot
> up the computer ? Even after my computer gets booted, I see some action on
> my
> hard disk.
>
> --
> Shrikant

Run msconfig.exe, then click the Startup tab and untick all items other than
your virus scanner and software firewall (if you have one). This will
disable all startup tasks. Later on, when you find that something no longer
works, restore the tick mark for this task.

You can disable these start-up items most like from within the software.
Alternatively by using Autoruns.

A safer way than msconfig to disable / remove unwanted start up items is
to use Autoruns.
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sys.../Autoruns.mspx

With Autoruns you can uncheck an item, which disables it from starting,
or you can can right click an item and then delete it. If you uncheck
you can recheck to re-enable the item. It is a much safer approach than
editing the Registry. Another useful feature of the programme is that
you can right click an item and select Search Online to get information
about the item selected.


--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Shrikant wrote:
> How to speed up computer start up ? I have removed all desktop icons.
> The booting is slow because of actions taking place in the 'tray'
> icons on right hand bottom corner. One of the icons is for 'HP
> Product Update'. Other Icon says "Keep your computer uptodate", then
> another Icon says "safely romove hardware". They get loaded one by
> one with the pop up messages as each one gets loaded. Can it be
> eliminated thereby speeding up the computer start up ? Is there any
> way to speed up the computer ? What is the 'normal time' to boot up
> the computer ? Even after my computer gets booted, I see some action
> on my hard disk.

Thanks Pegasus and Gerry. Your info was very useful. I find that Autorun
lists far more start up programs than does the config.exe Why is this ?
I am now in a bigger dilemma. The list of startup programs are mind
boggling. I now understand what the pandora's box is. I just can not decide
which one to delete and which one to keep. Therefore, I am keeping this
operation to some future date when I am mentally prepared to undertake this
task.
Thanks a lot anyway.
--
Shrikant


"Gerry" wrote:

>
> You can disable these start-up items most like from within the software.
> Alternatively by using Autoruns.
>
> A safer way than msconfig to disable / remove unwanted start up items is
> to use Autoruns.
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sys.../Autoruns.mspx
>
> With Autoruns you can uncheck an item, which disables it from starting,
> or you can can right click an item and then delete it. If you uncheck
> you can recheck to re-enable the item. It is a much safer approach than
> editing the Registry. Another useful feature of the programme is that
> you can right click an item and select Search Online to get information
> about the item selected.
>
>
> --
>
>
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Gerry
> ~~~~
> FCA
> Stourport, England
> Enquire, plan and execute
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>
> Shrikant wrote:
> > How to speed up computer start up ? I have removed all desktop icons.
> > The booting is slow because of actions taking place in the 'tray'
> > icons on right hand bottom corner. One of the icons is for 'HP
> > Product Update'. Other Icon says "Keep your computer uptodate", then
> > another Icon says "safely romove hardware". They get loaded one by
> > one with the pop up messages as each one gets loaded. Can it be
> > eliminated thereby speeding up the computer start up ? Is there any
> > way to speed up the computer ? What is the 'normal time' to boot up
> > the computer ? Even after my computer gets booted, I see some action
> > on my hard disk.
>
>
>

On Tue, 14 Oct 2008 01:51:00 -0700, Shrikant
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> How to speed up computer start up ? I have removed all desktop icons. The
> booting is slow because of actions taking place in the 'tray' icons on right
> hand bottom corner. One of the icons is for 'HP Product Update'. Other Icon
> says "Keep your computer uptodate", then another Icon says "safely romove
> hardware". They get loaded one by one with the pop up messages as each one
> gets loaded. Can it be eliminated thereby speeding up the computer start up ?
> Is there any way to speed up the computer ? What is the 'normal time' to boot
> up the computer ? Even after my computer gets booted, I see some action on my
> hard disk.


My personal view is that the attention many people pay to how long it
takes to boot is unwarranted. Assuming that the computer's speed is
otherwise satisfactory, it may not be worth worrying about. Most
people start their computers once a day or even less frequently. In
the overall scheme of things, even a few minutes to start up isn't
very important. Personally I power on my computer when I get up in the
morning, then go get my coffee. When I come back, it's done booting. I
don't know how long it took to boot and I don't care.

However if you do want to address it, it may be because of what
programs start automatically, and you may want to stop some of them
from starting that way. On each program you don't want to start
automatically, check its Options to see if it has the choice not to
start (make sure you actually choose the option not to run it, not
just a "don't show icon" option). Many can easily and best be stopped
that way. If that doesn't work, run MSCONFIG from the Start | Run
line, and on the Startup tab, uncheck the programs you don't want to
start automatically.

However, if I were you, I wouldn't do this just for the purpose of
running the minimum number of programs. Despite what many people tell
you, you should be concerned, not with how *many* of these programs
you run, but *which*. Some of them can hurt performance severely, but
others have no effect on performance.

Don't just stop programs from running willy-nilly. What you should do
is determine what each program is, what its value is to you, and what
the cost in performance is of its running all the time. You can get
more information about these at
http://castlecops.com/StartupList.html. If you can't find it there,
try google searches and ask about specifics here.

Once you have that information, you can make an intelligent informed
decision about what you want to keep and what you want to get rid of.

--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
Please Reply to the Newsgroup

"Gerry" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:OnKW%(E-Mail Removed)...
>
> You can disable these start-up items most like from within the software.
> Alternatively by using Autoruns.
>
> A safer way than msconfig to disable / remove unwanted start up items is
> to use Autoruns.
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sys.../Autoruns.mspx

I'm curious. What's "unsafe" about using msconfig? If the OP leaves his
virus scanner (and perhaps firewall) active then I can see no danger.
Furthermore, all actions are fully reversible.

Pegasus

Msconfig is a troubleshooting tool and not one for making permanent
changes. You can disable but not remove an item. To remove an item the
user is tempted to use regedit to remove the unwanted item. This can
lead to serious problems for an inexperienced user if they get it wrong.

Autoruns not only reveals more start-up items but contains the ability
to both disable and to remove an unwanted item. It also contains an easy
way to learn more about a start-up item. Removal using Autoruns is less
likely to lead to problems leading to a damaged registry.

Msconfig was written before 2001. I suspect it has not been changed
since that time. Autoruns has been developed to go beyond what msconfig
offers and is still being updated. It is more user friendly than
msconfig and in recent years has become extremely popular. I do not
understand why you continue to promote the use of msconfig when a user
seeking help would find Autoruns more helpful. That is not to say that
Msconfig does not still have a role to play in some situations.

--
Regards.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Pegasus (MVP) wrote:
> "Gerry" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:OnKW%(E-Mail Removed)...
>>
>> You can disable these start-up items most like from within the
>> software. Alternatively by using Autoruns.
>>
>> A safer way than msconfig to disable / remove unwanted start up
>> items is to use Autoruns.
>> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sys.../Autoruns.mspx
>
> I'm curious. What's "unsafe" about using msconfig? If the OP leaves
> his virus scanner (and perhaps firewall) active then I can see no
> danger. Furthermore, all actions are fully reversible.

I off my computer after every session because I am afraid it will increase
power bill. I am not familiar with the 'hibernation' mode - I do not think it
is available in PC. I was using it in my laptop.
I am also afraid that the hard disk will wear out faster becuase I
understand that hard disk keeps rotating when the PC is on - even when we are
not retrieving data from hard disk.
Another concern for too many start up programs is that it may slow down my
computer even after it has start up - as it may load my CPU and Memory.
Barring above three concerns, I agree with you that the start up time is not
important. It is probably carry forward mentality from the old PC days with
absolutely low quality level of the hardware as compared with the todays
sturdy models.
I would like to have guidance on above three points. We can call it personal
'Attitude' problems with our PC.
--
Shrikant


"Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:

> On Tue, 14 Oct 2008 01:51:00 -0700, Shrikant
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
> > How to speed up computer start up ? I have removed all desktop icons. The
> > booting is slow because of actions taking place in the 'tray' icons on right
> > hand bottom corner. One of the icons is for 'HP Product Update'. Other Icon
> > says "Keep your computer uptodate", then another Icon says "safely romove
> > hardware". They get loaded one by one with the pop up messages as each one
> > gets loaded. Can it be eliminated thereby speeding up the computer start up ?
> > Is there any way to speed up the computer ? What is the 'normal time' to boot
> > up the computer ? Even after my computer gets booted, I see some action on my
> > hard disk.
>
>
> My personal view is that the attention many people pay to how long it
> takes to boot is unwarranted. Assuming that the computer's speed is
> otherwise satisfactory, it may not be worth worrying about. Most
> people start their computers once a day or even less frequently. In
> the overall scheme of things, even a few minutes to start up isn't
> very important. Personally I power on my computer when I get up in the
> morning, then go get my coffee. When I come back, it's done booting. I
> don't know how long it took to boot and I don't care.
>
> However if you do want to address it, it may be because of what
> programs start automatically, and you may want to stop some of them
> from starting that way. On each program you don't want to start
> automatically, check its Options to see if it has the choice not to
> start (make sure you actually choose the option not to run it, not
> just a "don't show icon" option). Many can easily and best be stopped
> that way. If that doesn't work, run MSCONFIG from the Start | Run
> line, and on the Startup tab, uncheck the programs you don't want to
> start automatically.
>
> However, if I were you, I wouldn't do this just for the purpose of
> running the minimum number of programs. Despite what many people tell
> you, you should be concerned, not with how *many* of these programs
> you run, but *which*. Some of them can hurt performance severely, but
> others have no effect on performance.
>
> Don't just stop programs from running willy-nilly. What you should do
> is determine what each program is, what its value is to you, and what
> the cost in performance is of its running all the time. You can get
> more information about these at
> http://castlecops.com/StartupList.html. If you can't find it there,
> try google searches and ask about specifics here.
>
> Once you have that information, you can make an intelligent informed
> decision about what you want to keep and what you want to get rid of.
>
> --
> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
> Please Reply to the Newsgroup
>

What does the words MVP denote (which is affixed to your name)? Just curiious.
--
Shrikant


"Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:

> On Tue, 14 Oct 2008 01:51:00 -0700, Shrikant
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
> > How to speed up computer start up ? I have removed all desktop icons. The
> > booting is slow because of actions taking place in the 'tray' icons on right
> > hand bottom corner. One of the icons is for 'HP Product Update'. Other Icon
> > says "Keep your computer uptodate", then another Icon says "safely romove
> > hardware". They get loaded one by one with the pop up messages as each one
> > gets loaded. Can it be eliminated thereby speeding up the computer start up ?
> > Is there any way to speed up the computer ? What is the 'normal time' to boot
> > up the computer ? Even after my computer gets booted, I see some action on my
> > hard disk.
>
>
> My personal view is that the attention many people pay to how long it
> takes to boot is unwarranted. Assuming that the computer's speed is
> otherwise satisfactory, it may not be worth worrying about. Most
> people start their computers once a day or even less frequently. In
> the overall scheme of things, even a few minutes to start up isn't
> very important. Personally I power on my computer when I get up in the
> morning, then go get my coffee. When I come back, it's done booting. I
> don't know how long it took to boot and I don't care.
>
> However if you do want to address it, it may be because of what
> programs start automatically, and you may want to stop some of them
> from starting that way. On each program you don't want to start
> automatically, check its Options to see if it has the choice not to
> start (make sure you actually choose the option not to run it, not
> just a "don't show icon" option). Many can easily and best be stopped
> that way. If that doesn't work, run MSCONFIG from the Start | Run
> line, and on the Startup tab, uncheck the programs you don't want to
> start automatically.
>
> However, if I were you, I wouldn't do this just for the purpose of
> running the minimum number of programs. Despite what many people tell
> you, you should be concerned, not with how *many* of these programs
> you run, but *which*. Some of them can hurt performance severely, but
> others have no effect on performance.
>
> Don't just stop programs from running willy-nilly. What you should do
> is determine what each program is, what its value is to you, and what
> the cost in performance is of its running all the time. You can get
> more information about these at
> http://castlecops.com/StartupList.html. If you can't find it there,
> try google searches and ask about specifics here.
>
> Once you have that information, you can make an intelligent informed
> decision about what you want to keep and what you want to get rid of.
>
> --
> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
> Please Reply to the Newsgroup
>

Gerry wrote:

>>> A safer way than msconfig to disable / remove unwanted start up
>>> items is to use Autoruns.

Pegasus wrote:

>> I'm curious. What's "unsafe" about using msconfig? If the OP leaves
>> his virus scanner (and perhaps firewall) active then I can see no
>> danger. Furthermore, all actions are fully reversible.

Gerry wrote:

> Removal using Autoruns is less likely to lead to problems leading to
> a damaged registry.

Since all msconfig actions are fully reversible, how is using it more
likely to result in a damaged registry? I can see how it may result in
junk entries. That is, if you use msconfig to disable a startup program
like qttask, you will eventually get another entry for it that is
enabled. But I'm not sure this causes any actual damage!