Attention Mr. Eddy and Mr. Brown both of Microsoft

An MVP who wishes to remain anonymous (and from what I hear that's exactly
what he should do) has pointed me towards the below message. I fully
expect you to do your usual NOTHING, but I rather thought that the rest of
the world should witness your reaction. So here is the message...

Re: John Kelly - The Thread of Doom!
Rehan </Forums/User/UserProfile.aspx?UserName=Rehan>
www.rehanfx.org <http://www.rehanfx.org> Joined: 21 Apr 2004 Total Posts:
945
Posted: 30 Mar 2005 05:53 AM For those who do not frequent the ms nwsgroup:
As his attacks increased in frequency and viciousness I finally gave in and
broke my restraint with this j**k. A flame war erupted where he met equal
measures of blows and the drama ended with him humiliated and running away
for a week.... Sorry but only a week... Will try harder next time
The attacks he refers to were the ones where another MVP had to tell him I
was correct and that he was WRONG. Equal Measures....this guy is a
screem...he should be on the stage....Will Try Harder Next Time ???
Hmmmmmmmmm

Now then...the below message from Eddy.

Greetings,

I have received multiple complaints regarding personal attacks made by
you in the microsoft.public.windowsxp.moviemaker newsgroup. After
reviewing posts made by you, we believe that they are abusive and
violate the Rules of Conduct for our newsgroups as listed at
http://www.microsoft.com/communities...t/default.mspx. We would
request that you refrain from using the Microsoft newsgroups for
personal attacks.

If you disagree with our assessment of your posts, or have any
questions, you may contact us at (E-Mail Removed) or myself directly
at (E-Mail Removed).

John Eddy
Microsoft Newsgroups Administrator

This one tears me up..no seriously....the complainer TED BREWER was brought
in as a special event to the newsgroup to post that complaint....but people
with short memories will not realise that he posted one many weeks before
where he also said I was being added to his kill file. Brewer would have
ordinary users believe that he is a casual spectator (he is NOT a poster in
any sense of the word as he only posts according to the needs of others)

The attempts by a person using a womans name (see other thread in
moviemakers forum by woman claiming to be blocked. More on that below) and
the person calling himself KDE to initiate additional arguments.....I was
fore warned...SO SORRY FELLAS...you just cant trust anyone.

The woman complaining she was blocked....well who/where would you run to in
order to complain about being blocked from a website???....of course...go
to the moviemaker forum and post a message titled "Who is John
Kelly"......Pathetic fellas...really pathetic

Rehan and his helpers from the MVPS.....it was suggested that I lay a trap,
actually the idea was already in mind...So I post a message based on a TV
advert in the UK. That advert stats that the human eye can actually see
less than one million colours....what happens...REHAN digs out a 7 year old
web page and quotes a section of that page out of context..he also added
words that are NOT in the document....I forget and can't be bothered to
check the exact wording but it was almost designed to make you think that
the flame starter REHAN actually knew the Dr. in question he referred to
him as being HIGHLY respected in this field etc etc A Comment clearly
designed to start an argument .....and then another funny happens....one of
the friends of the flame starter REHAN adds comments to the thread in this
group about the number of bits and what they are used for in an
image.......but SHE included her normal signature......go check and look
for any time prior to this event for messages by this person???? ARE YOU
GETTING THE PICTURE YET???? IS IT SINKING IN AT ALL ????

Well, I guess you both have "A" picture, you made him a Microsoft Valued
Professional LOLOLOLOLOL

While I am thinking along these lines, YOU mr eddy...and your vicious and
nasty attack on me when I posted a message to a whole bunch of newsgroups
by mistake...REMEMBER ???? Yes Mr. Eddy (Microsoft Newsgroups
Administrator) I remember.....I continualy referredyou to the rules of
Usenet and you repeatedly said you did not comply with those
rules......lets just take a little look at your message above... Ah Yes...I
can see (E-Mail Removed)....hold on a second...you said........

I won't bother adding any more to the above....I just want the public to
see exactly how you deal with complaints when an MVP (papajohn) is caught
out over his blatant lying...SIXTY THREE NEWSGROUPS being just one example
LOL and what you do when a complete novice (rehan) tries to back up the
LIAR Papajohn...you made him an MVP as well !!! LOLOLOL

And you wonder why I turned down your offer to discus being an mvp myself
further LOLOL

A far as your email goes mr eddy...I really could not give a hoot what you
say think or do (because I can prove that papajohn is a LIAR)...as far as
your "Review" goes....don't make me laugh...you are clearly highly biased
and quite happy to steer a conversation in any direction that suits just
you and those you protect.and having done a very quick check, I find that I
am not alone when thinking this..... When that chap wished you would die,
did you ban him from ever using a Microsoft Newsgroup??? What did you do
when REHAN hoped that I would die soon?? (in one of his messages posted in
here)

Finally, you are blacklisted and neither you or Brown will be able to send
further insulting emails

--
John Kelly
No No, The Truth Is, I Am Not An Instant Expert, but I know someone who
is................

Have a Real Nice Day Y'here!!

Did you take your meds today?

"John Kelly" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> Attention Mr. Eddy and Mr. Brown both of Microsoft
>
> An MVP who wishes to remain anonymous (and from what I hear that's exactly
> what he should do) has pointed me towards the below message. I fully
> expect you to do your usual NOTHING, but I rather thought that the rest of
> the world should witness your reaction. So here is the message...
>
> Re: John Kelly - The Thread of Doom!
> Rehan </Forums/User/UserProfile.aspx?UserName=Rehan>
> www.rehanfx.org <http://www.rehanfx.org> Joined: 21 Apr 2004 Total Posts:
> 945
> Posted: 30 Mar 2005 05:53 AM For those who do not frequent the ms
> nwsgroup:
> As his attacks increased in frequency and viciousness I finally gave in
> and
> broke my restraint with this j**k. A flame war erupted where he met equal
> measures of blows and the drama ended with him humiliated and running away
> for a week.... Sorry but only a week... Will try harder next time
> The attacks he refers to were the ones where another MVP had to tell him I
> was correct and that he was WRONG. Equal Measures....this guy is a
> screem...he should be on the stage....Will Try Harder Next Time ???
> Hmmmmmmmmm
>
> Now then...the below message from Eddy.
>
> Greetings,
>
> I have received multiple complaints regarding personal attacks made by
> you in the microsoft.public.windowsxp.moviemaker newsgroup. After
> reviewing posts made by you, we believe that they are abusive and
> violate the Rules of Conduct for our newsgroups as listed at
> http://www.microsoft.com/communities...t/default.mspx. We would
> request that you refrain from using the Microsoft newsgroups for
> personal attacks.
>
> If you disagree with our assessment of your posts, or have any
> questions, you may contact us at (E-Mail Removed) or myself directly
> at (E-Mail Removed).
>
> John Eddy
> Microsoft Newsgroups Administrator
>
> This one tears me up..no seriously....the complainer TED BREWER was
> brought
> in as a special event to the newsgroup to post that complaint....but
> people
> with short memories will not realise that he posted one many weeks before
> where he also said I was being added to his kill file. Brewer would have
> ordinary users believe that he is a casual spectator (he is NOT a poster
> in
> any sense of the word as he only posts according to the needs of others)
>
> The attempts by a person using a womans name (see other thread in
> moviemakers forum by woman claiming to be blocked. More on that below) and
> the person calling himself KDE to initiate additional arguments.....I was
> fore warned...SO SORRY FELLAS...you just cant trust anyone.
>
> The woman complaining she was blocked....well who/where would you run to
> in
> order to complain about being blocked from a website???....of course...go
> to the moviemaker forum and post a message titled "Who is John
> Kelly"......Pathetic fellas...really pathetic
>
> Rehan and his helpers from the MVPS.....it was suggested that I lay a
> trap,
> actually the idea was already in mind...So I post a message based on a TV
> advert in the UK. That advert stats that the human eye can actually see
> less than one million colours....what happens...REHAN digs out a 7 year
> old
> web page and quotes a section of that page out of context..he also added
> words that are NOT in the document....I forget and can't be bothered to
> check the exact wording but it was almost designed to make you think that
> the flame starter REHAN actually knew the Dr. in question he referred to
> him as being HIGHLY respected in this field etc etc A Comment clearly
> designed to start an argument .....and then another funny happens....one
> of
> the friends of the flame starter REHAN adds comments to the thread in this
> group about the number of bits and what they are used for in an
> image.......but SHE included her normal signature......go check and look
> for any time prior to this event for messages by this person???? ARE YOU
> GETTING THE PICTURE YET???? IS IT SINKING IN AT ALL ????
>
> Well, I guess you both have "A" picture, you made him a Microsoft Valued
> Professional LOLOLOLOLOL
>
> While I am thinking along these lines, YOU mr eddy...and your vicious and
> nasty attack on me when I posted a message to a whole bunch of newsgroups
> by mistake...REMEMBER ???? Yes Mr. Eddy (Microsoft Newsgroups
> Administrator) I remember.....I continualy referredyou to the rules of
> Usenet and you repeatedly said you did not comply with those
> rules......lets just take a little look at your message above... Ah
> Yes...I
> can see (E-Mail Removed)....hold on a second...you said........
>
> I won't bother adding any more to the above....I just want the public to
> see exactly how you deal with complaints when an MVP (papajohn) is caught
> out over his blatant lying...SIXTY THREE NEWSGROUPS being just one example
> LOL and what you do when a complete novice (rehan) tries to back up the
> LIAR Papajohn...you made him an MVP as well !!! LOLOLOL
>
> And you wonder why I turned down your offer to discus being an mvp myself
> further LOLOL
>
> A far as your email goes mr eddy...I really could not give a hoot what you
> say think or do (because I can prove that papajohn is a LIAR)...as far as
> your "Review" goes....don't make me laugh...you are clearly highly biased
> and quite happy to steer a conversation in any direction that suits just
> you and those you protect.and having done a very quick check, I find that
> I
> am not alone when thinking this..... When that chap wished you would die,
> did you ban him from ever using a Microsoft Newsgroup??? What did you do
> when REHAN hoped that I would die soon?? (in one of his messages posted in
> here)
>
> Finally, you are blacklisted and neither you or Brown will be able to send
> further insulting emails
>
> --
> John Kelly
> No No, The Truth Is, I Am Not An Instant Expert, but I know someone who
> is................
>
> Have a Real Nice Day Y'here!!

Yep, that's exactly the comment I expected.....

--
Best Wishes.....John Kelly

Check out the free hosting for your pictures and video at...
www.the-kellys.org
www.the-kellys.co.uk

John, lighten up I personally have no clue what you are talking about you
lost me after the first sentence.


"John Kelly" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:POwEe.75866$(E-Mail Removed)...
> Yep, that's exactly the comment I expected.....

Mr Kelly:

Please see my response, in red below.



>> Attention Mr. Eddy and Mr. Brown both of Microsoft
>>
>> An MVP who wishes to remain anonymous (and from what I hear that's
>> exactly what he should do) has pointed me towards the below
>> message. I fully expect you to do your usual NOTHING, but I rather
>> thought that the rest of the world should witness your reaction. So
>> here is the message...
>>
>> Re: John Kelly - The Thread of Doom!
>> Rehan </Forums/User/UserProfile.aspx?UserName=Rehan>
>> www.rehanfx.org <http://www.rehanfx.org> Joined: 21 Apr 2004 Total
>> Posts: 945
>> Posted: 30 Mar 2005 05:53 AM For those who do not frequent the ms
>> nwsgroup: As his attacks increased in frequency and viciousness I
>> finally gave in and broke my restraint with this j**k. A flame war
>> erupted where he met equal measures of blows and the drama ended
>> with him humiliated and running away for a week.... Sorry but only a
>> week... Will try harder next time
>> The attacks he refers to were the ones where another MVP had to tell
>> him I was correct and that he was WRONG. Equal Measures....this guy
>> is a screem...he should be on the stage....Will Try Harder Next Time
>> ??? Hmmmmmmmmm
>>
>> Now then...the below message from Eddy.
>>
>> Greetings,
>>
>> I have received multiple complaints regarding personal attacks made
>> by
>> you in the microsoft.public.windowsxp.moviemaker newsgroup. After
>> reviewing posts made by you, we believe that they are abusive and
>> violate the Rules of Conduct for our newsgroups as listed at
>> http://www.microsoft.com/communities...t/default.mspx. We would
>> request that you refrain from using the Microsoft newsgroups for
>> personal attacks.
>>
>> If you disagree with our assessment of your posts, or have any
>> questions, you may contact us at (E-Mail Removed) or myself
>> directly at (E-Mail Removed).
>>
>> John Eddy
>> Microsoft Newsgroups Administrator
>>
>> This one tears me up..no seriously....the complainer TED BREWER was
>> brought in as a special event to the newsgroup to post that
>> complaint....but people with short memories will not realise that he
>> posted one many weeks before where he also said I was being added to
>> his kill file. Brewer would have ordinary users believe that he is a
>> casual spectator (he is NOT a poster in any sense of the word as he
>> only posts according to the needs of others)
>>
I was not "brought in as a special event", Mr Kelly. It is true, that I am not a contributer to the group, as I don't know enough about Movie Maker to be able to contribute anything. Early on, I did ask a question or two, but other than that, my only contribution to the group has been my complaints TO YOU. After my first complaint, I did add you to my killfile, and enjoyed, very much, the peace and quiet in the group. I thought I would give you a second chance, to see if you had changed your ways. I was wrong. You are even worse than you were before. I did, however, change my mind about the killfile. I don't like them, and probably won't use it in your case.

I do consider myself a "Casual Spectator", and will continue to be.

Make what you will of this, Mr. Kelly. I will try to refrain from comenting on your behavior in the future.

Ted Brewer

>>
>> The attempts by a person using a womans name (see other thread in
>> moviemakers forum by woman claiming to be blocked. More on that
>> below) and the person calling himself KDE to initiate additional
>> arguments.....I was fore warned...SO SORRY FELLAS...you just cant
>> trust anyone.
>>
>> The woman complaining she was blocked....well who/where would you
>> run to in order to complain about being blocked from a
>> website???....of course...go to the moviemaker forum and post a
>> message titled "Who is John Kelly"......Pathetic fellas...really
>> pathetic
>>
>> Rehan and his helpers from the MVPS.....it was suggested that I lay
>> a trap, actually the idea was already in mind...So I post a message
>> based on a TV advert in the UK. That advert stats that the human eye
>> can actually see less than one million colours....what
>> happens...REHAN digs out a 7 year old web page and quotes a section
>> of that page out of context..he also added words that are NOT in the
>> document....I forget and can't be bothered to check the exact
>> wording but it was almost designed to make you think that the flame
>> starter REHAN actually knew the Dr. in question he referred to him
>> as being HIGHLY respected in this field etc etc A Comment clearly
>> designed to start an argument .....and then another funny
>> happens....one of the friends of the flame starter REHAN adds
>> comments to the thread in this group about the number of bits and
>> what they are used for in an image.......but SHE included her normal
>> signature......go check and look for any time prior to this event
>> for messages by this person???? ARE YOU GETTING THE PICTURE YET????
>> IS IT SINKING IN AT ALL ????
>>
>> Well, I guess you both have "A" picture, you made him a Microsoft
>> Valued Professional LOLOLOLOLOL
>>
>> While I am thinking along these lines, YOU mr eddy...and your
>> vicious and nasty attack on me when I posted a message to a whole
>> bunch of newsgroups by mistake...REMEMBER ???? Yes Mr. Eddy
>> (Microsoft Newsgroups Administrator) I remember.....I continualy
>> referredyou to the rules of Usenet and you repeatedly said you did
>> not comply with those rules......lets just take a little look at
>> your message above... Ah Yes...I can see
>> (E-Mail Removed)....hold on a second...you said........
>>
>> I won't bother adding any more to the above....I just want the
>> public to see exactly how you deal with complaints when an MVP
>> (papajohn) is caught out over his blatant lying...SIXTY THREE
>> NEWSGROUPS being just one example LOL and what you do when a
>> complete novice (rehan) tries to back up the LIAR Papajohn...you
>> made him an MVP as well !!! LOLOLOL
>>
>> And you wonder why I turned down your offer to discus being an mvp
>> myself further LOLOL
>>
>> A far as your email goes mr eddy...I really could not give a hoot
>> what you say think or do (because I can prove that papajohn is a
>> LIAR)...as far as your "Review" goes....don't make me laugh...you
>> are clearly highly biased and quite happy to steer a conversation in
>> any direction that suits just you and those you protect.and having
>> done a very quick check, I find that I am not alone when thinking
>> this..... When that chap wished you would die, did you ban him from
>> ever using a Microsoft Newsgroup??? What did you do when REHAN hoped
>> that I would die soon?? (in one of his messages posted in here)
>>
>> Finally, you are blacklisted and neither you or Brown will be able
>> to send further insulting emails
>>
>> --
>> John Kelly
>> No No, The Truth Is, I Am Not An Instant Expert, but I know someone
>> who is................
>>
>> Have a Real Nice Day Y'here!!

Hello,

There should be no text in any colour other than the default for your news
reading software. This is because it is contrary to the general rules of
acceptability. Papajohn capitulated on this issue some time back. It is
because messages containing HTML code can transmit a virus or other
malicious code on to the computer of every person who does not know how to
defend against it. Sending such messages is considered very bad form.

In reply to your message which I see in Black...in the last 365 days you
have posted just four messages in this newsgroup one of which I am replying
to right now. In the last message by you to me you said....

"I have done as you suggested. Added you to my kill file."

I make no comment on whether you did or did not...it makes no difference,
neither does your reply to me today. In all of your messages you are
complaining about one thing or another and declaring you have shut me out.
The one thing that above all is significant is WHEN you make your comments
and how as a CASUAL READER and not a daily reader of this newsgroup to
which in the last year you have never contributed one single thing you
suddenly manage to appear at exactly the right moment to create one of your
four messages with a great flourish and determined statement of what you
have done.....but once more the LIE springs fourth....in your most recent
message prior to the one I am replying to, you yet again said you were
going to put me in your KILL FILE...Just how stupid do you think we all
are?????? How can you reply to my message of today if as you say I am in
your KILL FILE ????

On 23-Jul-2005, "Ted Brewer" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> Make what you will of this, Mr. Kelly. I will try to refrain from
> comenting on your behavior in the future.

I think I already have.

Good bye brewer

John Kelly

On 23-Jul-2005, "DI" <please post@this newsgroup.com> wrote:

>Have you taken your meds today ???

This you say after I submit a complaint.....and follow it up with.....

> John, lighten up I personally have no clue what you are talking about you
> lost me after the first sentence.

I don't think anything further needs to be said here. I might be accused of
attacking you for butting in where you are not wanted.
--
John Kelly

This is not the place to be a Flame WARRIOR
http://redwing.hutman.net/%7Emreed/warriorshtm/ego.htm


"John Kelly" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:UGzEe.2023$(E-Mail Removed)...
> On 23-Jul-2005, "DI" <please post@this newsgroup.com> wrote:
>
>>Have you taken your meds today ???
>
> This you say after I submit a complaint.....and follow it up with.....
>
>> John, lighten up I personally have no clue what you are talking about you
>> lost me after the first sentence.
>
> I don't think anything further needs to be said here. I might be accused
> of
> attacking you for butting in where you are not wanted.
> --
> John Kelly

Then please stop trying to create a flame war. Its ever so easy to not
create one just as your efforts could create one, don't you think.

--
Best Wishes.....John Kelly

Check out the free hosting for your pictures and video at...
www.the-kellys.org
www.the-kellys.co.uk