Can microsoft write programs that work with their own
software? Really? Can they?

"anon" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Can microsoft write programs that work with their own
> software? Really? Can they?


Do you know what a beta program is? Really? Do you?

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP, IE/OE
Please respond in Newsgroup only. Do not send email
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Protect your PC
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then windows is still beta as well!! if ms wrote decent
code we wouldn't need all this rubbish.
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>"anon" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>news:1f3c01c4fd3f$7fe4e210$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Can microsoft write programs that work with their own
>> software? Really? Can they?
>
>
>Do you know what a beta program is? Really? Do you?
>
>--
>Frank Saunders, MS-MVP, IE/OE
>Please respond in Newsgroup only. Do not send email
>http://www.fjsmjs.com
>Protect your PC
>http://www.microsoft.com./athome/sec...t/default.aspx
>
>
>.
>

Find an OS that does not need any "rubbish".
It does not exist.
By your reasoning ALL operating systems are Beta at best.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/


<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> then windows is still beta as well!! if ms wrote decent
> code we wouldn't need all this rubbish.

This presentation might help:

http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/youare.swf


<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> then windows is still beta as well!! if ms wrote decent
> code we wouldn't need all this rubbish.
>>-----Original Message-----
>>"anon" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>news:1f3c01c4fd3f$7fe4e210$(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> Can microsoft write programs that work with their own
>>> software? Really? Can they?
>>
>>
>>Do you know what a beta program is? Really? Do you?
>>
>>--
>>Frank Saunders, MS-MVP, IE/OE
>>Please respond in Newsgroup only. Do not send email
>>http://www.fjsmjs.com
>>Protect your PC
>>http://www.microsoft.com./athome/sec...t/default.aspx
>>
>>
>>.
>>

at least other OS developers truly care about fixing
problems and developing stable, secure platforms. MS's
policy of security through obscurity and release-first-
fix-later is what gets the community frustrated. some of
the IE vulnerabilities have been around for 6 months or
more - how do corporates mitigate the risk?

>-----Original Message-----
>Find an OS that does not need any "rubbish".
>It does not exist.
>By your reasoning ALL operating systems are Beta at best.
>
>--
>Jupiter Jones [MVP]
>http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/
>
>
><(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>news:12c101c4fd56$e9a29e60$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> then windows is still beta as well!! if ms wrote decent
>> code we wouldn't need all this rubbish.
>
>
>.
>

<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote
>
> how do corporates mitigate the risk?
>
Many (and that is an operative usage of the word) ways - SOE sites,
multi-layered defenses, dedicated staff, very limited rates of change,
prohibition (or risk the sack) of games and dodgy surfing, segmentation,
monitoring tools, audits (and more no doubt).

But I feel for you and others that don't have any or all of these resources.

Cheers, Frank.

Laughing Out Loudly!!!
thats so funny! its so funny that, silly questions are
being asked in beta testing instead of technical! Well
Frank replied right, there is no such operating system
that don't need this "rubbish". Spywares sucks alot!

>-----Original Message-----
>This presentation might help:
>
>http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/youare.swf
>
>
><(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>news:12c101c4fd56$e9a29e60$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> then windows is still beta as well!! if ms wrote decent
>> code we wouldn't need all this rubbish.
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>"anon" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
message
>>>news:1f3c01c4fd3f$7fe4e210$(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>> Can microsoft write programs that work with their own
>>>> software? Really? Can they?
>>>
>>>
>>>Do you know what a beta program is? Really? Do you?
>>>
>>>--
>>>Frank Saunders, MS-MVP, IE/OE
>>>Please respond in Newsgroup only. Do not send email
>>>http://www.fjsmjs.com
>>>Protect your PC
>>>http://www.microsoft.com./athome/sec...protect/defaul
t.aspx
>>>
>>>
>>>.
>>>
>
>
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>

Sandy,

Be careful if you decide to go to the website this presentation is hosted
on. The swf that is quite enjoyable is actually served on a webpage that
also has a javascript that attempts to install a trojan on your computer. I
found it while testing anti-virus and anti-spam software and decided to
provide the link to the swf file only.

John

"Sandy" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Laughing Out Loudly!!!
> thats so funny! its so funny that, silly questions are
> being asked in beta testing instead of technical! Well
> Frank replied right, there is no such operating system
> that don't need this "rubbish". Spywares sucks alot!
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>This presentation might help:
>>
>>http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/youare.swf
>>
>>
>><(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>news:12c101c4fd56$e9a29e60$(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> then windows is still beta as well!! if ms wrote decent
>>> code we wouldn't need all this rubbish.
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>"anon" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
> message
>>>>news:1f3c01c4fd3f$7fe4e210$(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>>> Can microsoft write programs that work with their own
>>>>> software? Really? Can they?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Do you know what a beta program is? Really? Do you?
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>Frank Saunders, MS-MVP, IE/OE
>>>>Please respond in Newsgroup only. Do not send email
>>>>http://www.fjsmjs.com
>>>>Protect your PC
>>>>http://www.microsoft.com./athome/sec...protect/defaul
> t.aspx
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>.
>>>>
>>
>>
>>.
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