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George
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      15th Feb 2005
I have not been able to down load and install Microsoft
updates using the v5 installer since I installed MS
AntiSpyware. After weeks of waiting for a response from
the Microsoft help desk I started trying different
things. I finally disabled the AntiSpyware Agents that
monitor security check points. That allowed me to
download and install 10 of 11 back security updates.

Is this a documented feature of MS AntiSpyware that I
overlooked?

___________

Another issue. I use IntegrityOnline as my ISP. I use
their home page as my default home page on all accounts
on my home PC. Every time any family member logs on to
their account (Windows XP Pro) they get a pop-up from MS
AntiSpyware that says IntegrityOnline is trying to hijack
the homepage away from some Microsoft page. How do I get
MS AntiSpyware to recognize that IntegrityOnline is my
chosen, valid browser home page???

_________________

A third issue. I saw the article in the San Jose Mercury
News last week that said Microsoft is struggling with a
rogue spyware that is attempting to turn off or replace
MS AntiSpyware. On Feb 14 after the automated download
of MS AntiSpyware definitions I have no history of
Spyware found or of a "Last Spyware Scan". This is a bit
unnerving since I've run the scan at least 35 times. Has
the rogue replaced the valid MS AntiSpyware code? Are my
keystrokes now being read into a mafia database? Or did
Microsoft just replace the code and wipe out the history
in the last update without notifing us???

Call me at 650 857 3492 if you want details.
 
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John
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      15th Feb 2005
Try this to restore Windows Update function:

From a command prompt:
net stop cryptsvc
ren %systemroot%\system32\catroot2 oldcatroot2
net start cryptsvc

(as recommended by Mark L. Ferguson)

Let us know if it works.

John


"George" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:06fe01c51385$0f39ee00$(E-Mail Removed)...
>I have not been able to down load and install Microsoft
> updates using the v5 installer since I installed MS
> AntiSpyware. After weeks of waiting for a response from
> the Microsoft help desk I started trying different
> things. I finally disabled the AntiSpyware Agents that
> monitor security check points. That allowed me to
> download and install 10 of 11 back security updates.
>
> Is this a documented feature of MS AntiSpyware that I
> overlooked?
>
> ___________
>
> Another issue. I use IntegrityOnline as my ISP. I use
> their home page as my default home page on all accounts
> on my home PC. Every time any family member logs on to
> their account (Windows XP Pro) they get a pop-up from MS
> AntiSpyware that says IntegrityOnline is trying to hijack
> the homepage away from some Microsoft page. How do I get
> MS AntiSpyware to recognize that IntegrityOnline is my
> chosen, valid browser home page???
>
> _________________
>
> A third issue. I saw the article in the San Jose Mercury
> News last week that said Microsoft is struggling with a
> rogue spyware that is attempting to turn off or replace
> MS AntiSpyware. On Feb 14 after the automated download
> of MS AntiSpyware definitions I have no history of
> Spyware found or of a "Last Spyware Scan". This is a bit
> unnerving since I've run the scan at least 35 times. Has
> the rogue replaced the valid MS AntiSpyware code? Are my
> keystrokes now being read into a mafia database? Or did
> Microsoft just replace the code and wipe out the history
> in the last update without notifing us???
>
> Call me at 650 857 3492 if you want details.



 
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George
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      16th Feb 2005
I was able to download and install all other critical
updates last night. I still cannot download the
following:
Security Update for Windows XP (KB890175)

I tried John's (Markl's) recommendation after stopping
the referenced service and after restarting it. This
made no difference.

Any comments regarding my other two issues???

Thanks.
>-----Original Message-----
>I have not been able to down load and install Microsoft
>updates using the v5 installer since I installed MS
>AntiSpyware. After weeks of waiting for a response from
>the Microsoft help desk I started trying different
>things. I finally disabled the AntiSpyware Agents that
>monitor security check points. That allowed me to
>download and install 10 of 11 back security updates.
>
>Is this a documented feature of MS AntiSpyware that I
>overlooked?
>
>___________
>
>Another issue. I use IntegrityOnline as my ISP. I use
>their home page as my default home page on all accounts
>on my home PC. Every time any family member logs on to
>their account (Windows XP Pro) they get a pop-up from MS
>AntiSpyware that says IntegrityOnline is trying to

hijack
>the homepage away from some Microsoft page. How do I

get
>MS AntiSpyware to recognize that IntegrityOnline is my
>chosen, valid browser home page???
>
>_________________
>
>A third issue. I saw the article in the San Jose

Mercury
>News last week that said Microsoft is struggling with a
>rogue spyware that is attempting to turn off or replace
>MS AntiSpyware. On Feb 14 after the automated download
>of MS AntiSpyware definitions I have no history of
>Spyware found or of a "Last Spyware Scan". This is a

bit
>unnerving since I've run the scan at least 35 times.

Has
>the rogue replaced the valid MS AntiSpyware code? Are

my
>keystrokes now being read into a mafia database? Or did
>Microsoft just replace the code and wipe out the history
>in the last update without notifing us???
>
>Call me at 650 857 3492 if you want details.
>.
>

 
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Bill Sanderson
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      16th Feb 2005
If you don't mention Microsoft Antispyware, free help for virus related or
security patch related issues is available from Microsoft PSS.

In the US or Canada dial 1-866-pcsafety.

Elsewhere, call the nearest Microsoft subsidiary. The call may not be free,
but equivalent free technical support is available.
--
FAQ for Microsoft Antispyware:
http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm

"George" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:1ed801c513e1$a0e63d20$(E-Mail Removed)...
>I was able to download and install all other critical
> updates last night. I still cannot download the
> following:
> Security Update for Windows XP (KB890175)
>
> I tried John's (Markl's) recommendation after stopping
> the referenced service and after restarting it. This
> made no difference.
>
> Any comments regarding my other two issues???
>
> Thanks.
>>-----Original Message-----
>>I have not been able to down load and install Microsoft
>>updates using the v5 installer since I installed MS
>>AntiSpyware. After weeks of waiting for a response from
>>the Microsoft help desk I started trying different
>>things. I finally disabled the AntiSpyware Agents that
>>monitor security check points. That allowed me to
>>download and install 10 of 11 back security updates.
>>
>>Is this a documented feature of MS AntiSpyware that I
>>overlooked?
>>
>>___________
>>
>>Another issue. I use IntegrityOnline as my ISP. I use
>>their home page as my default home page on all accounts
>>on my home PC. Every time any family member logs on to
>>their account (Windows XP Pro) they get a pop-up from MS
>>AntiSpyware that says IntegrityOnline is trying to

> hijack
>>the homepage away from some Microsoft page. How do I

> get
>>MS AntiSpyware to recognize that IntegrityOnline is my
>>chosen, valid browser home page???
>>
>>_________________
>>
>>A third issue. I saw the article in the San Jose

> Mercury
>>News last week that said Microsoft is struggling with a
>>rogue spyware that is attempting to turn off or replace
>>MS AntiSpyware. On Feb 14 after the automated download
>>of MS AntiSpyware definitions I have no history of
>>Spyware found or of a "Last Spyware Scan". This is a

> bit
>>unnerving since I've run the scan at least 35 times.

> Has
>>the rogue replaced the valid MS AntiSpyware code? Are

> my
>>keystrokes now being read into a mafia database? Or did
>>Microsoft just replace the code and wipe out the history
>>in the last update without notifing us???
>>
>>Call me at 650 857 3492 if you want details.
>>.
>>



 
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Bill Sanderson
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      16th Feb 2005
Thoughts, such as they are, interspersed:
--
FAQ for Microsoft Antispyware:
http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm

"George" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:06fe01c51385$0f39ee00$(E-Mail Removed)...
>I have not been able to down load and install Microsoft
> updates using the v5 installer since I installed MS
> AntiSpyware. After weeks of waiting for a response from
> the Microsoft help desk I started trying different
> things. I finally disabled the AntiSpyware Agents that
> monitor security check points. That allowed me to
> download and install 10 of 11 back security updates.
>
> Is this a documented feature of MS AntiSpyware that I
> overlooked?


This behavior isn't documented, and I can't recall others mentioning it.
I'd try removing Microsoft Antispyware, and reinstalling it.

>
> Another issue. I use IntegrityOnline as my ISP. I use
> their home page as my default home page on all accounts
> on my home PC. Every time any family member logs on to
> their account (Windows XP Pro) they get a pop-up from MS
> AntiSpyware that says IntegrityOnline is trying to hijack
> the homepage away from some Microsoft page. How do I get
> MS AntiSpyware to recognize that IntegrityOnline is my
> chosen, valid browser home page???


You may have to live with this behavior with this beta version. You can
disable the specific checkpoint giving this warning, but you will also be
giving up the protection it affords.

> _________________
>
> A third issue. I saw the article in the San Jose Mercury
> News last week that said Microsoft is struggling with a
> rogue spyware that is attempting to turn off or replace
> MS AntiSpyware. On Feb 14 after the automated download
> of MS AntiSpyware definitions I have no history of
> Spyware found or of a "Last Spyware Scan". This is a bit
> unnerving since I've run the scan at least 35 times. Has
> the rogue replaced the valid MS AntiSpyware code? Are my
> keystrokes now being read into a mafia database? Or did
> Microsoft just replace the code and wipe out the history
> in the last update without notifing us???


Microsoft Antispyware is meant to keep your keystrokes out of that mafia
database.

This is also one I haven't heard before. You can manually chose to truncate
the scan history, which would have this effect. The trojan that the
newspaper article mentioned isn't widely distributed, and simply disables
Microsoft Antispyware--nothing as subtle as modifying its behavior or
replacing it.

>
> Call me at 650 857 3492 if you want details.



 
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John
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      17th Feb 2005
Are you using McAfee software of any kind?


"George" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:1ed801c513e1$a0e63d20$(E-Mail Removed)...
>I was able to download and install all other critical
> updates last night. I still cannot download the
> following:
> Security Update for Windows XP (KB890175)
>
> I tried John's (Markl's) recommendation after stopping
> the referenced service and after restarting it. This
> made no difference.
>
> Any comments regarding my other two issues???
>
> Thanks.
>>-----Original Message-----
>>I have not been able to down load and install Microsoft
>>updates using the v5 installer since I installed MS
>>AntiSpyware. After weeks of waiting for a response from
>>the Microsoft help desk I started trying different
>>things. I finally disabled the AntiSpyware Agents that
>>monitor security check points. That allowed me to
>>download and install 10 of 11 back security updates.
>>
>>Is this a documented feature of MS AntiSpyware that I
>>overlooked?
>>
>>___________
>>
>>Another issue. I use IntegrityOnline as my ISP. I use
>>their home page as my default home page on all accounts
>>on my home PC. Every time any family member logs on to
>>their account (Windows XP Pro) they get a pop-up from MS
>>AntiSpyware that says IntegrityOnline is trying to

> hijack
>>the homepage away from some Microsoft page. How do I

> get
>>MS AntiSpyware to recognize that IntegrityOnline is my
>>chosen, valid browser home page???
>>
>>_________________
>>
>>A third issue. I saw the article in the San Jose

> Mercury
>>News last week that said Microsoft is struggling with a
>>rogue spyware that is attempting to turn off or replace
>>MS AntiSpyware. On Feb 14 after the automated download
>>of MS AntiSpyware definitions I have no history of
>>Spyware found or of a "Last Spyware Scan". This is a

> bit
>>unnerving since I've run the scan at least 35 times.

> Has
>>the rogue replaced the valid MS AntiSpyware code? Are

> my
>>keystrokes now being read into a mafia database? Or did
>>Microsoft just replace the code and wipe out the history
>>in the last update without notifing us???
>>
>>Call me at 650 857 3492 if you want details.
>>.
>>



 
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Steve Dodson [MSFT]
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      20th Feb 2005
I have not seen the issue where installing the beta keeps users from
downloading critical updates. I bet that since I have not heard anything
that something else is going on there. Let us know what you find out.

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Steve Dodson [MSFT]
MCSE, CISSP
PSS Security

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"Bill Sanderson" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:Ohlfbz%(E-Mail Removed)...
> Thoughts, such as they are, interspersed:
> --
> FAQ for Microsoft Antispyware:
> http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm
>
> "George" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:06fe01c51385$0f39ee00$(E-Mail Removed)...
>>I have not been able to down load and install Microsoft
>> updates using the v5 installer since I installed MS
>> AntiSpyware. After weeks of waiting for a response from
>> the Microsoft help desk I started trying different
>> things. I finally disabled the AntiSpyware Agents that
>> monitor security check points. That allowed me to
>> download and install 10 of 11 back security updates.
>>
>> Is this a documented feature of MS AntiSpyware that I
>> overlooked?

>
> This behavior isn't documented, and I can't recall others mentioning it.
> I'd try removing Microsoft Antispyware, and reinstalling it.
>
>>
>> Another issue. I use IntegrityOnline as my ISP. I use
>> their home page as my default home page on all accounts
>> on my home PC. Every time any family member logs on to
>> their account (Windows XP Pro) they get a pop-up from MS
>> AntiSpyware that says IntegrityOnline is trying to hijack
>> the homepage away from some Microsoft page. How do I get
>> MS AntiSpyware to recognize that IntegrityOnline is my
>> chosen, valid browser home page???

>
> You may have to live with this behavior with this beta version. You can
> disable the specific checkpoint giving this warning, but you will also be
> giving up the protection it affords.
>
>> _________________
>>
>> A third issue. I saw the article in the San Jose Mercury
>> News last week that said Microsoft is struggling with a
>> rogue spyware that is attempting to turn off or replace
>> MS AntiSpyware. On Feb 14 after the automated download
>> of MS AntiSpyware definitions I have no history of
>> Spyware found or of a "Last Spyware Scan". This is a bit
>> unnerving since I've run the scan at least 35 times. Has
>> the rogue replaced the valid MS AntiSpyware code? Are my
>> keystrokes now being read into a mafia database? Or did
>> Microsoft just replace the code and wipe out the history
>> in the last update without notifing us???

>
> Microsoft Antispyware is meant to keep your keystrokes out of that mafia
> database.
>
> This is also one I haven't heard before. You can manually chose to
> truncate the scan history, which would have this effect. The trojan that
> the newspaper article mentioned isn't widely distributed, and simply
> disables Microsoft Antispyware--nothing as subtle as modifying its
> behavior or replacing it.
>
>>
>> Call me at 650 857 3492 if you want details.

>
>



 
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Bill Sanderson
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      21st Feb 2005
hmm - George is anonymous except for having posted his phone number!
I'd love to hear how he made out myself, but I'm not sure I should call him.

Hmmm---650 857 appears to be Palo Alto, and perhaps Hewlett Packard.
--
FAQ for Microsoft Antispyware:
http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm

"Steve Dodson [MSFT]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>I have not seen the issue where installing the beta keeps users from
>downloading critical updates. I bet that since I have not heard anything
>that something else is going on there. Let us know what you find out.
>
> --
> -steve
>
> Steve Dodson [MSFT]
> MCSE, CISSP
> PSS Security
>
> --
>
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
> rights.
> Use of included script samples are subject to the terms specified at
> http://www.microsoft.com/info/cpyright.htm
>
> Note: For the benefit of the community-at-large, all responses to this
> message are best directed to the newsgroup/thread from which they
> originated.
> "Bill Sanderson" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:Ohlfbz%(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Thoughts, such as they are, interspersed:
>> --
>> FAQ for Microsoft Antispyware:
>> http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm
>>
>> "George" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:06fe01c51385$0f39ee00$(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>I have not been able to down load and install Microsoft
>>> updates using the v5 installer since I installed MS
>>> AntiSpyware. After weeks of waiting for a response from
>>> the Microsoft help desk I started trying different
>>> things. I finally disabled the AntiSpyware Agents that
>>> monitor security check points. That allowed me to
>>> download and install 10 of 11 back security updates.
>>>
>>> Is this a documented feature of MS AntiSpyware that I
>>> overlooked?

>>
>> This behavior isn't documented, and I can't recall others mentioning it.
>> I'd try removing Microsoft Antispyware, and reinstalling it.
>>
>>>
>>> Another issue. I use IntegrityOnline as my ISP. I use
>>> their home page as my default home page on all accounts
>>> on my home PC. Every time any family member logs on to
>>> their account (Windows XP Pro) they get a pop-up from MS
>>> AntiSpyware that says IntegrityOnline is trying to hijack
>>> the homepage away from some Microsoft page. How do I get
>>> MS AntiSpyware to recognize that IntegrityOnline is my
>>> chosen, valid browser home page???

>>
>> You may have to live with this behavior with this beta version. You can
>> disable the specific checkpoint giving this warning, but you will also be
>> giving up the protection it affords.
>>
>>> _________________
>>>
>>> A third issue. I saw the article in the San Jose Mercury
>>> News last week that said Microsoft is struggling with a
>>> rogue spyware that is attempting to turn off or replace
>>> MS AntiSpyware. On Feb 14 after the automated download
>>> of MS AntiSpyware definitions I have no history of
>>> Spyware found or of a "Last Spyware Scan". This is a bit
>>> unnerving since I've run the scan at least 35 times. Has
>>> the rogue replaced the valid MS AntiSpyware code? Are my
>>> keystrokes now being read into a mafia database? Or did
>>> Microsoft just replace the code and wipe out the history
>>> in the last update without notifing us???

>>
>> Microsoft Antispyware is meant to keep your keystrokes out of that mafia
>> database.
>>
>> This is also one I haven't heard before. You can manually chose to
>> truncate the scan history, which would have this effect. The trojan that
>> the newspaper article mentioned isn't widely distributed, and simply
>> disables Microsoft Antispyware--nothing as subtle as modifying its
>> behavior or replacing it.
>>
>>>
>>> Call me at 650 857 3492 if you want details.

>>
>>

>
>



 
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