I have imported avi files and jpg's into the same timeline, applied all my
transitions, audio overlays etc and saved the output as "High quality video
(PAL)" which gives me .wmv file which I then convert to SVCD using Nero 6.

(I've found I get better quality output on my TV by converting the DV-AVI
file to WMV and then use the MPEG-2 encoder in Nero 6 to create my SVCD, than
encoding DV-AVI directly to MPEG-2. Strange I know)

My problem is that the jpg images do not expand to the 16:9 display size on
my television in the way the avi files do. So my resulting movie shows black
side bars to the image slide show element of the movie, but the avi's play
full screen.

I've tried re-sizing my original jpg's from their default 2304 x 1728 to 720
x 576 as given in "setting details" section of the Save Movie Wizard, but
this does not resolve the problem.

Any ideas on how I can combine true movie footage with jpg slideshows in the
same output file and have both elements display in full wide screen output?

Thanks in advance.

Hello there,

I don't know where you got the information from, but its wrong. Well obviously
thats why you are asking. To get your image to display with no borders you
should resize it so that its ratio is 16:9 and not 4:3 (which is what 720 * 576
is)

The reason is that Movie Maker cannot create a 16:9 ratio without using non
square pixels.....that works OK with Video but it will NOT work for still
images..... So, its not necessarily a resize job....you need to do a CROP
job....If you have something like Adobe Photoshop its very easy...simply set
the crop tool to 16 x 9 ratio and then make the largest crop marks that you
can...do the crop and there it is an image with a ratio of 16:9.

Ont the resize front...Movie Maker is not all that good in this area...you
should use your still image editor to resample your image so that its height is
576.....the width takes care of itself.

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> you
> should resize it so that its ratio is 16:9 and not 4:3 (which is what 720
> * 576
> is)

Minor correction: 720x576 is neither 16:9 nor 4:3. For some strange reason
my calculator reports it to be 5:4.

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"John Kelly" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:0GX7d.1842$(E-Mail Removed)...
> Hello there,
>
> I don't know where you got the information from, but its wrong. Well
> obviously
> thats why you are asking. To get your image to display with no borders you
> should resize it so that its ratio is 16:9 and not 4:3 (which is what 720
> * 576
> is)
>
> The reason is that Movie Maker cannot create a 16:9 ratio without using
> non
> square pixels.....that works OK with Video but it will NOT work for still
> images..... So, its not necessarily a resize job....you need to do a CROP
> job....If you have something like Adobe Photoshop its very easy...simply
> set
> the crop tool to 16 x 9 ratio and then make the largest crop marks that
> you
> can...do the crop and there it is an image with a ratio of 16:9.
>
> Ont the resize front...Movie Maker is not all that good in this area...you
> should use your still image editor to resample your image so that its
> height is
> 576.....the width takes care of itself.
>
> --
> Best Wishes.....John Kelly
> www.the-kellys.org
> www.the-kellys.co.uk
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Hyde

Your problem is interesting:

>
> My problem is that the jpg images do not expand to the 16:9 display size
> on
> my television in the way the avi files do. So my resulting movie shows
> black
> side bars to the image slide show element of the movie, but the avi's play
> full screen.
>
> I've tried re-sizing my original jpg's from their default 2304 x 1728 to
> 720
> x 576 as given in "setting details" section of the Save Movie Wizard, but
> this does not resolve the problem.
>

I challenge you to do it any other way than the following methods. I am
pretty sure that by now you would have tried all sort of cropping and
resizing... Nothing works. I sympathise with you.

You actually do not need to either resize or crop your images. You can use
them in the original form with these solutions:


A. For best quality and control:

1. Download and install my pan zoom effects from
http://rehanfx.org/panzoom.htm
2. Try the new effects in movie maker to make sure these are working
3. Copy paste the following lines into notepad and save as rpzwide.xml in
"C:\Program Files\Movie Maker\shared\AddOnTFX" folder
4. Restart Movie maker and apply the new effect called "RFX Widescreen" to a
photo in Storyboard you want to make fit into widescreen.

<TransitionsAndEffects Version="1.0">
<Effects>
<EffectDLL guid="{4B4670E6-4512-4bec-BED1-57A017078ECC}">
<Effect name="RFX Widescreen" iconid="33">
<Param name="X1" value="0.125" />
<Param name="Y1" value="0.125" />
<Param name="Size1" value="0.75" />
<Param name="X2" value="0.125" />
<Param name="Y2" value="0.125" />
<Param name="Size2" value="0.75" />
</Effect>
</EffectDLL>
</Effects>
</TransitionsAndEffects>



B. If you dont want my package, it can be done with customizing standard
effects but you would see marked loss of quality.

Copy paste the following lines into notepad and save as zoomwide.xml in
"C:\Program Files\Movie Maker\shared\AddOnTFX" folder. After that restart
Movie maker and apply the new effect "Zoom Fixed 75%" to a photo you want to
make fit into full widescreen.

<TransitionsAndEffects Version="1.0" >
<Effects>
<EffectDLL guid="{B4DC8DD9-2CC1-4081-9B2B-20D7030234EF}">
<Effect name="Zoom Fixed 75%" iconid="33">
<Param name="InternalName" value="Simple3D" />
<Param name="ScaleA" value="1.3333" />
<Param name="InitialScaleA" value="1.3333" />
</Effect>
</EffectDLL>
</Effects>
</TransitionsAndEffects>





Hope it helps. Please report back your experience.

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""Hyde" the darker side" <"Hyde" the darker (E-Mail Removed)>
wrote in message news:3DCE0194-BB0B-4EEC-8AEE-(E-Mail Removed)...
>I have imported avi files and jpg's into the same timeline, applied all my
> transitions, audio overlays etc and saved the output as "High quality
> video
> (PAL)" which gives me .wmv file which I then convert to SVCD using Nero 6.
>
> (I've found I get better quality output on my TV by converting the DV-AVI
> file to WMV and then use the MPEG-2 encoder in Nero 6 to create my SVCD,
> than
> encoding DV-AVI directly to MPEG-2. Strange I know)
>
> My problem is that the jpg images do not expand to the 16:9 display size
> on
> my television in the way the avi files do. So my resulting movie shows
> black
> side bars to the image slide show element of the movie, but the avi's play
> full screen.
>
> I've tried re-sizing my original jpg's from their default 2304 x 1728 to
> 720
> x 576 as given in "setting details" section of the Save Movie Wizard, but
> this does not resolve the problem.
>
> Any ideas on how I can combine true movie footage with jpg slideshows in
> the
> same output file and have both elements display in full wide screen
> output?
>
> Thanks in advance.

John's reply is correct. The problem you're facing is that images are square
pixels and video is typically non-square pixels. It sounds like you want to
output as 16:9 PAL which will have a resolution of 720x576 but those pixels
are actually wider than they are taller so that when rendered they make up
the 16x9 frame.

However your images will have square pixels so you will need to resize/crop
your picture so your resolution matches the 16:9 ratio. As you're using PAL
you're better off resizing/cropping your images to 1024x576. (that way it
only gets resized horizontally by MovieMaker). As John said you're probably
better off cropping the 16:9 area of the picture you're interested in and
then resizing that crop to the 1024x576 resolution. If you've done it right
nothing should look stretched in your image.
Regards
Jen
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

"Hyde the darker side" <"Hyde" the darker (E-Mail Removed)>
wrote in message news:3DCE0194-BB0B-4EEC-8AEE-(E-Mail Removed)...
> I have imported avi files and jpg's into the same timeline, applied all my
> transitions, audio overlays etc and saved the output as "High quality
video
> (PAL)" which gives me .wmv file which I then convert to SVCD using Nero 6.
>
> (I've found I get better quality output on my TV by converting the DV-AVI
> file to WMV and then use the MPEG-2 encoder in Nero 6 to create my SVCD,
than
> encoding DV-AVI directly to MPEG-2. Strange I know)
>
> My problem is that the jpg images do not expand to the 16:9 display size
on
> my television in the way the avi files do. So my resulting movie shows
black
> side bars to the image slide show element of the movie, but the avi's play
> full screen.
>
> I've tried re-sizing my original jpg's from their default 2304 x 1728 to
720
> x 576 as given in "setting details" section of the Save Movie Wizard, but
> this does not resolve the problem.
>
> Any ideas on how I can combine true movie footage with jpg slideshows in
the
> same output file and have both elements display in full wide screen
output?
>
> Thanks in advance.

OK I was talking from my back side... when I said cropping wont work :-)

John and you are right on this.

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"Jen Rowe [MS]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> John's reply is correct. The problem you're facing is that images are
> square
> pixels and video is typically non-square pixels. It sounds like you want
> to
> output as 16:9 PAL which will have a resolution of 720x576 but those
> pixels
> are actually wider than they are taller so that when rendered they make up
> the 16x9 frame.
>
> However your images will have square pixels so you will need to
> resize/crop
> your picture so your resolution matches the 16:9 ratio. As you're using
> PAL
> you're better off resizing/cropping your images to 1024x576. (that way it
> only gets resized horizontally by MovieMaker). As John said you're
> probably
> better off cropping the 16:9 area of the picture you're interested in and
> then resizing that crop to the 1024x576 resolution. If you've done it
> right
> nothing should look stretched in your image.
> Regards
> Jen
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
> rights.
>
> "Hyde the darker side" <"Hyde" the darker (E-Mail Removed)>
> wrote in message
> news:3DCE0194-BB0B-4EEC-8AEE-(E-Mail Removed)...
>> I have imported avi files and jpg's into the same timeline, applied all
>> my
>> transitions, audio overlays etc and saved the output as "High quality
> video
>> (PAL)" which gives me .wmv file which I then convert to SVCD using Nero
>> 6.
>>
>> (I've found I get better quality output on my TV by converting the DV-AVI
>> file to WMV and then use the MPEG-2 encoder in Nero 6 to create my SVCD,
> than
>> encoding DV-AVI directly to MPEG-2. Strange I know)
>>
>> My problem is that the jpg images do not expand to the 16:9 display size
> on
>> my television in the way the avi files do. So my resulting movie shows
> black
>> side bars to the image slide show element of the movie, but the avi's
>> play
>> full screen.
>>
>> I've tried re-sizing my original jpg's from their default 2304 x 1728 to
> 720
>> x 576 as given in "setting details" section of the Save Movie Wizard, but
>> this does not resolve the problem.
>>
>> Any ideas on how I can combine true movie footage with jpg slideshows in
> the
>> same output file and have both elements display in full wide screen
> output?
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>
>

Many thanks to all of you for your prompt contributions and explanations.

For the time being I have downloaded Rehan's PanZoom package and found that
it does exactly what I need, whilst retaining the quality of the overall
image, and in a fashion consistent with Movie Makers other video effects.

My only observation is that whilst I appreciate that some cropping must take
place to make the image fit the 16:9 format, it would be great if the video
effect allowed the user to position a 16:9 mask over the target image to
explicitly select the area of the image to be cropped. Something along the
lines of using the alphabet approach in the pan & zoom effects to place the
crop position would also be an idea. Just a though a layman. If I'm talking
bo**ocks, just ignore me.

Thanks again

I do hope those at Microsoft are reading your inflamatory remarks.....the
attitude they give towards every one who dares say anything is realy quite
remarkable

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Yawn....you have cracked up mate...challenges now is it????

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hello there,


Thank you

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