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Larry Waibel
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      15th Feb 2005
I'm working with a proprietary single-board-computer that was built for our
company. It has limited memory and only DiskOnChip for storage so I've not
been able to install a full XP on it. I've been able to get an XPe image
that it will boot from and that I can connect to the admin share and copy
files to it. Now I'm trying to access the 'extra' COM ports and they aren't
there. I've googled the groups and found some references but nothing really
solid. It doesn't look to me like the ports for COM3-14 show up in either TA
or TAP. I have the BIOS information for the interrupts, etc. that they're
using but I can't figure out what all I need to do to get them to be seen by
XPe. Is there a set of instructions anywhere on how to add a COM port? If I
could do one of them I'm sure it'd just be cloning to do the others. Thanks!

 
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Slobodan Brcin \(eMVP\)
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      15th Feb 2005
Hi Larry,

Add component: "Communications Port".
And read trough:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/...Port%22&qt_g=1

Also usually if one port start working they all do without your intervention since they are usually picked by PnP automatically.

Please analyze setupapi.log file after you do FBA on your device, you should post it here as attachment as well.

Regards,
Slobodan

"Larry Waibel" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> I'm working with a proprietary single-board-computer that was built for our
> company. It has limited memory and only DiskOnChip for storage so I've not
> been able to install a full XP on it. I've been able to get an XPe image
> that it will boot from and that I can connect to the admin share and copy
> files to it. Now I'm trying to access the 'extra' COM ports and they aren't
> there. I've googled the groups and found some references but nothing really
> solid. It doesn't look to me like the ports for COM3-14 show up in either TA
> or TAP. I have the BIOS information for the interrupts, etc. that they're
> using but I can't figure out what all I need to do to get them to be seen by
> XPe. Is there a set of instructions anywhere on how to add a COM port? If I
> could do one of them I'm sure it'd just be cloning to do the others. Thanks!
>



 
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Larry Waibel
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      16th Feb 2005
I already had the "Communications Port" component in my configuration. COM1 and COM2
work but I get 'file not found' for COM3, etc. Not sure what I'm looking for in the
setupapi.log and it's pretty big. I've never attached a file in a newsgroup before and
don't want it to impact other readers. Let me know for sure if I should attach it or
email it to you.

In article <OHh$$(E-Mail Removed)>, Slobodan Brcin (eMVP) wrote:
> From: "Slobodan Brcin \(eMVP\)" <(E-Mail Removed)>
> Subject: Re: COM3-14
> Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 00:37:55 +0100
> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.embedded
>
> Hi Larry,
>
> Add component: "Communications Port".
> And read trough:
>

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/...rch?group=micr
osoft.public.windowsxp.embedded&q=%22Communications+Port%22&qt_g=1
>
> Also usually if one port start working they all do without your intervention since they

are usually picked by PnP automatically.
>
> Please analyze setupapi.log file after you do FBA on your device, you should post it

here as attachment as well.
>
> Regards,
> Slobodan
>
> "Larry Waibel" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message

news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > I'm working with a proprietary single-board-computer that was built for our
> > company. It has limited memory and only DiskOnChip for storage so I've not
> > been able to install a full XP on it. I've been able to get an XPe image
> > that it will boot from and that I can connect to the admin share and copy
> > files to it. Now I'm trying to access the 'extra' COM ports and they aren't
> > there. I've googled the groups and found some references but nothing really
> > solid. It doesn't look to me like the ports for COM3-14 show up in either TA
> > or TAP. I have the BIOS information for the interrupts, etc. that they're
> > using but I can't figure out what all I need to do to get them to be seen by
> > XPe. Is there a set of instructions anywhere on how to add a COM port? If I
> > could do one of them I'm sure it'd just be cloning to do the others. Thanks!
> >

>



 
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Slobodan Brcin \(eMVP\)
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      16th Feb 2005
Hi Larry,

So far no-one complained about attachments. Attachments are downloaded and posted trough outlook express if you use it to read this
NG.
Use public server news.microsoft.com

You can send it to my email but it is better that other can see it as well.

Search for missing files or something like that.

Regards,
Slobodan

PS:
You might need some third party driver to make you extra COM card to work?



"Larry Waibel" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> I already had the "Communications Port" component in my configuration. COM1 and COM2
> work but I get 'file not found' for COM3, etc. Not sure what I'm looking for in the
> setupapi.log and it's pretty big. I've never attached a file in a newsgroup before and
> don't want it to impact other readers. Let me know for sure if I should attach it or
> email it to you.
>
> In article <OHh$$(E-Mail Removed)>, Slobodan Brcin (eMVP) wrote:
> > From: "Slobodan Brcin \(eMVP\)" <(E-Mail Removed)>
> > Subject: Re: COM3-14
> > Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 00:37:55 +0100
> > Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.embedded
> >
> > Hi Larry,
> >
> > Add component: "Communications Port".
> > And read trough:
> >

> http://groups-beta.google.com/group/...rch?group=micr
> osoft.public.windowsxp.embedded&q=%22Communications+Port%22&qt_g=1
> >
> > Also usually if one port start working they all do without your intervention since they

> are usually picked by PnP automatically.
> >
> > Please analyze setupapi.log file after you do FBA on your device, you should post it

> here as attachment as well.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Slobodan
> >
> > "Larry Waibel" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message

> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > I'm working with a proprietary single-board-computer that was built for our
> > > company. It has limited memory and only DiskOnChip for storage so I've not
> > > been able to install a full XP on it. I've been able to get an XPe image
> > > that it will boot from and that I can connect to the admin share and copy
> > > files to it. Now I'm trying to access the 'extra' COM ports and they aren't
> > > there. I've googled the groups and found some references but nothing really
> > > solid. It doesn't look to me like the ports for COM3-14 show up in either TA
> > > or TAP. I have the BIOS information for the interrupts, etc. that they're
> > > using but I can't figure out what all I need to do to get them to be seen by
> > > XPe. Is there a set of instructions anywhere on how to add a COM port? If I
> > > could do one of them I'm sure it'd just be cloning to do the others. Thanks!
> > >

> >

>
>



 
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Larry Waibel
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      16th Feb 2005
I use Virtual Access but it has an Attachments capability so I'll try it and see.

I don't think it's as much as missing driver as a missing configuration. It's not a separate 'com card' but a set of quad UARTS in
an FPGA. They're all 16550 compatible and I think all I need is to be able to make XPe aware that they exist and which IRQ, address
they use. I know the board has been used with the PharLap ETS embedded software.

I also suspect I'm going to run into problems with the USB. I have a Microsoft Intellimouse USB connected and added that to my
configuration but when I run regedit from the command prompt I don't get any mouse cursor.

In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, Slobodan Brcin (eMVP) wrote:
> From: "Slobodan Brcin \(eMVP\)" <(E-Mail Removed)>
> Subject: Re: COM3-14
> Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 01:08:44 +0100
> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.embedded
>
> Hi Larry,
>
> So far no-one complained about attachments. Attachments are downloaded and posted trough outlook express if you use it to read this
> NG.
> Use public server news.microsoft.com
>
> You can send it to my email but it is better that other can see it as well.
>
> Search for missing files or something like that.
>
> Regards,
> Slobodan
>
> PS:
> You might need some third party driver to make you extra COM card to work?
>
> "Larry Waibel" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > I already had the "Communications Port" component in my configuration. COM1 and COM2
> > work but I get 'file not found' for COM3, etc. Not sure what I'm looking for in the
> > setupapi.log and it's pretty big. I've never attached a file in a newsgroup before and
> > don't want it to impact other readers. Let me know for sure if I should attach it or
> > email it to you.
> >
> > In article <OHh$$(E-Mail Removed)>, Slobodan Brcin (eMVP) wrote:
> > > From: "Slobodan Brcin \(eMVP\)" <(E-Mail Removed)>
> > > Subject: Re: COM3-14
> > > Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 00:37:55 +0100
> > > Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.embedded
> > >
> > > Hi Larry,
> > >
> > > Add component: "Communications Port".
> > > And read trough:
> > >

> > http://groups-beta.google.com/group/...rch?group=micr
> > osoft.public.windowsxp.embedded&q=%22Communications+Port%22&qt_g=1
> > >
> > > Also usually if one port start working they all do without your intervention since they

> > are usually picked by PnP automatically.
> > >
> > > Please analyze setupapi.log file after you do FBA on your device, you should post it

> > here as attachment as well.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Slobodan
> > >
> > > "Larry Waibel" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message

> > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > > I'm working with a proprietary single-board-computer that was built for our
> > > > company. It has limited memory and only DiskOnChip for storage so I've not
> > > > been able to install a full XP on it. I've been able to get an XPe image
> > > > that it will boot from and that I can connect to the admin share and copy
> > > > files to it. Now I'm trying to access the 'extra' COM ports and they aren't
> > > > there. I've googled the groups and found some references but nothing really
> > > > solid. It doesn't look to me like the ports for COM3-14 show up in either TA
> > > > or TAP. I have the BIOS information for the interrupts, etc. that they're
> > > > using but I can't figure out what all I need to do to get them to be seen by
> > > > XPe. Is there a set of instructions anywhere on how to add a COM port? If I
> > > > could do one of them I'm sure it'd just be cloning to do the others. Thanks!
> > > >
> > >

> >
> >

>



 
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Slobodan Brcin \(eMVP\)
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      16th Feb 2005
Larry,

> I don't think it's as much as missing driver as a missing configuration. It's not a separate 'com card' but a set of quad UARTS

in
> an FPGA. They're all 16550 compatible and I think all I need is to be able to make XPe aware that they exist and which IRQ,

address
> they use.


XPe is PnP Plug And Play. It alone decide what resources should be given to which hardware and find hardware on its own. If it
happens that you have all drivers and support files things just start working on their own.

Add all missing files so that SPFILENOTIFY_NEEDMEDIA error is eradicated from your setupapi.log.

Also I would add component "Plug and Play Software Device Enumerator".

Regards,
Slobodan

"Larry Waibel" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> I use Virtual Access but it has an Attachments capability so I'll try it and see.
>
> I don't think it's as much as missing driver as a missing configuration. It's not a separate 'com card' but a set of quad UARTS

in
> an FPGA. They're all 16550 compatible and I think all I need is to be able to make XPe aware that they exist and which IRQ,

address
> they use. I know the board has been used with the PharLap ETS embedded software.
>
> I also suspect I'm going to run into problems with the USB. I have a Microsoft Intellimouse USB connected and added that to my
> configuration but when I run regedit from the command prompt I don't get any mouse cursor.
>
> In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, Slobodan Brcin (eMVP) wrote:
> > From: "Slobodan Brcin \(eMVP\)" <(E-Mail Removed)>
> > Subject: Re: COM3-14
> > Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 01:08:44 +0100
> > Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.embedded
> >
> > Hi Larry,
> >
> > So far no-one complained about attachments. Attachments are downloaded and posted trough outlook express if you use it to read

this
> > NG.
> > Use public server news.microsoft.com
> >
> > You can send it to my email but it is better that other can see it as well.
> >
> > Search for missing files or something like that.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Slobodan
> >
> > PS:
> > You might need some third party driver to make you extra COM card to work?
> >
> > "Larry Waibel" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > I already had the "Communications Port" component in my configuration. COM1 and COM2
> > > work but I get 'file not found' for COM3, etc. Not sure what I'm looking for in the
> > > setupapi.log and it's pretty big. I've never attached a file in a newsgroup before and
> > > don't want it to impact other readers. Let me know for sure if I should attach it or
> > > email it to you.
> > >
> > > In article <OHh$$(E-Mail Removed)>, Slobodan Brcin (eMVP) wrote:
> > > > From: "Slobodan Brcin \(eMVP\)" <(E-Mail Removed)>
> > > > Subject: Re: COM3-14
> > > > Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 00:37:55 +0100
> > > > Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.embedded
> > > >
> > > > Hi Larry,
> > > >
> > > > Add component: "Communications Port".
> > > > And read trough:
> > > >
> > > http://groups-beta.google.com/group/...rch?group=micr
> > > osoft.public.windowsxp.embedded&q=%22Communications+Port%22&qt_g=1
> > > >
> > > > Also usually if one port start working they all do without your intervention since they
> > > are usually picked by PnP automatically.
> > > >
> > > > Please analyze setupapi.log file after you do FBA on your device, you should post it
> > > here as attachment as well.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Slobodan
> > > >
> > > > "Larry Waibel" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > > > I'm working with a proprietary single-board-computer that was built for our
> > > > > company. It has limited memory and only DiskOnChip for storage so I've not
> > > > > been able to install a full XP on it. I've been able to get an XPe image
> > > > > that it will boot from and that I can connect to the admin share and copy
> > > > > files to it. Now I'm trying to access the 'extra' COM ports and they aren't
> > > > > there. I've googled the groups and found some references but nothing really
> > > > > solid. It doesn't look to me like the ports for COM3-14 show up in either TA
> > > > > or TAP. I have the BIOS information for the interrupts, etc. that they're
> > > > > using but I can't figure out what all I need to do to get them to be seen by
> > > > > XPe. Is there a set of instructions anywhere on how to add a COM port? If I
> > > > > could do one of them I'm sure it'd just be cloning to do the others. Thanks!
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >

> >

>
>



 
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KM
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      16th Feb 2005
Larry,

For the start, you are missing:
"Plug and Play Software Device Enumerator"
"USB User Interface"
Help files for some of your driver component (uncheck "Do not copy help files for this configuration" flag in the Configuration
settings)


--
Regards,
KM, BSquare Corp.


> The first attempt said the file was too large; I've zipped it and am trying again.
>
> In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, Slobodan Brcin (eMVP) wrote:
> > Hi Larry,
> >
> > So far no-one complained about attachments. Attachments are downloaded and posted trough outlook express if you use it to read

this
> > NG.
> > Use public server news.microsoft.com
> >

>
>
>



 
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Larry Waibel
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      16th Feb 2005
Okay, I still have the problems as follows (I've attached the latest setupapi.log):

I'm running with a command line shell. I can run 'regedit' and it brings up a GUI screen,
but I don't have a mouse pointer. It looks to me like the USB and Mouse were found. Is
there something else needed?

It looks like it found some more COM ports but only COM1 and COM2 are found by 'devcon'.
I'm still not clear what to do next. Is the msports.inf only processed during FBA? i.e.
if I edit the msports.inf on the target and reboot will it do any good?

The only help files I see missing are for the video driver and I'm not worried about
those; should I be?

In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, Km wrote:
> From: "KM" <konstmor@nospam_yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: COM3-14
> Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 17:14:24 -0800
> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.embedded
>
> Larry,
>
> For the start, you are missing:
> "Plug and Play Software Device Enumerator"
> "USB User Interface"
> Help files for some of your driver component (uncheck "Do not copy help files for

this configuration" flag in the Configuration
> settings)
>
> --
> Regards,
> KM, BSquare Corp.
>
> > The first attempt said the file was too large; I've zipped it and am trying again.
> >
> > In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, Slobodan Brcin (eMVP) wrote:
> > > Hi Larry,
> > >
> > > So far no-one complained about attachments. Attachments are downloaded and posted

trough outlook express if you use it to read
> this
> > > NG.
> > > Use public server news.microsoft.com
> > >

> >
> >
> >

>





 
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      16th Feb 2005
I have a quad 16550 compatible uart that I set up for com 3-6.
Oringinally I would set it up Post FBA (see my instructions below that is
specific to my hardware).
later I found where in the registry it stored the configuration and then
exported that portion of the registry and then made a component out of it.
I had the standard serial port component loaded

My post FBA instructions. (note my com 4 and 5 appear out of order but I had
a reason for that)

Post FBA

a.. Add the 4 communications ports in order. Note as you add Comm ports,
it will automatically assign the Com port Numbers for you.
1) <winKey> R

2) control sysdm.cpl add new hardware

3) Hardware Tab-> Add new hardware wizard

4) Next

5) After it searches, select "Yes, ." and then Next

6) Scroll down to and select "add new hardware device" and then select
Next

7) Select "Install the hardware that I manually select ..", then select
Next

8) Select "Ports (COM & LPT)" then Next

9) Select "Standard Port Types"-> "Communications port" Then Next

10) Select Next

11) You will then get a message saying it is complete but a code 34 error.
Select "View or change resources.."

12) Set Configuration Manually

13) Select Basic configuration 0008

14) Then change the Base address and IRQ for the port per the following
table for each of the 4 passes you do of this procedure.

· Address 240-247 IRQ 9 (Com3 Datacap CN11)

· Address 250-258 IRQ 9 (Com4 Printer )

· Address 248-24F IRQ 9 (Com5 Bill Disp CN12)

· Address 258-25F IRQ 9 (Com 6 Display I/O spare)

15) Press OK

16) Press Finished

17) Answer No to reboot.

18) Repeat steps c-q

19) When complete, reboot

20) After Reboot, verify COMS 3-6 appear and have no error conditions in
Device manager.


"Larry Waibel" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> I'm working with a proprietary single-board-computer that was built for

our
> company. It has limited memory and only DiskOnChip for storage so I've

not
> been able to install a full XP on it. I've been able to get an XPe image
> that it will boot from and that I can connect to the admin share and copy
> files to it. Now I'm trying to access the 'extra' COM ports and they

aren't
> there. I've googled the groups and found some references but nothing

really
> solid. It doesn't look to me like the ports for COM3-14 show up in either

TA
> or TAP. I have the BIOS information for the interrupts, etc. that they're
> using but I can't figure out what all I need to do to get them to be seen

by
> XPe. Is there a set of instructions anywhere on how to add a COM port?

If I
> could do one of them I'm sure it'd just be cloning to do the others.

Thanks!
>



 
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Larry Waibel
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      16th Feb 2005
Thanks. My problem is that I have a small disk and memory and can't do a full
install and won't have the control panel, etc. Would it be possible for you
to send me your 'component' and maybe I can work from that to make the
settings I need for all of my ports?

In article <#(E-Mail Removed)>, David D wrote:
> From: "David D" <(E-Mail Removed)>
> Subject: Re: COM3-14
> Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 13:11:36 -0500
> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.embedded
>
> I have a quad 16550 compatible uart that I set up for com 3-6.
> Oringinally I would set it up Post FBA (see my instructions below that is
> specific to my hardware).
> later I found where in the registry it stored the configuration and then
> exported that portion of the registry and then made a component out of it.
> I had the standard serial port component loaded
>
> My post FBA instructions. (note my com 4 and 5 appear out of order but I had
> a reason for that)
>
> Post FBA
>
> a.. Add the 4 communications ports in order. Note as you add Comm ports,
> it will automatically assign the Com port Numbers for you.
> 1) <winKey> R
>
> 2) control sysdm.cpl add new hardware
>
> 3) Hardware Tab-> Add new hardware wizard
>
> 4) Next
>
> 5) After it searches, select "Yes, ." and then Next
>
> 6) Scroll down to and select "add new hardware device" and then select
> Next
>
> 7) Select "Install the hardware that I manually select ..", then select
> Next
>
> 8) Select "Ports (COM & LPT)" then Next
>
> 9) Select "Standard Port Types"-> "Communications port" Then Next
>
> 10) Select Next
>
> 11) You will then get a message saying it is complete but a code 34 error.
> Select "View or change resources.."
>
> 12) Set Configuration Manually
>
> 13) Select Basic configuration 0008
>
> 14) Then change the Base address and IRQ for the port per the following
> table for each of the 4 passes you do of this procedure.
>
> · Address 240-247 IRQ 9 (Com3 Datacap CN11)
>
> · Address 250-258 IRQ 9 (Com4 Printer )
>
> · Address 248-24F IRQ 9 (Com5 Bill Disp CN12)
>
> · Address 258-25F IRQ 9 (Com 6 Display I/O spare)
>
> 15) Press OK
>
> 16) Press Finished
>
> 17) Answer No to reboot.
>
> 18) Repeat steps c-q
>
> 19) When complete, reboot
>
> 20) After Reboot, verify COMS 3-6 appear and have no error conditions in
> Device manager.
>
> "Larry Waibel" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > I'm working with a proprietary single-board-computer that was built for

> our
> > company. It has limited memory and only DiskOnChip for storage so I've

> not
> > been able to install a full XP on it. I've been able to get an XPe image
> > that it will boot from and that I can connect to the admin share and copy
> > files to it. Now I'm trying to access the 'extra' COM ports and they

> aren't
> > there. I've googled the groups and found some references but nothing

> really
> > solid. It doesn't look to me like the ports for COM3-14 show up in either

> TA
> > or TAP. I have the BIOS information for the interrupts, etc. that they're
> > using but I can't figure out what all I need to do to get them to be seen

> by
> > XPe. Is there a set of instructions anywhere on how to add a COM port?

> If I
> > could do one of them I'm sure it'd just be cloning to do the others.

> Thanks!
> >

>



 
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