Will the (Coffee Cup) Google Sitemapper 4.5 work with FrontPage 2003? Any
special considerations for FP?

Has anyone tried it? Is it worthwhile installing?

Thanks for any input

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Here is the URL http://www.coffeecup.com/google-sitemapper/

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"Walter R." <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Will the (Coffee Cup) Google Sitemapper 4.5 work with FrontPage 2003? Any
> special considerations for FP?
>
> Has anyone tried it? Is it worthwhile installing?
>
> Thanks for any input
>
> --
> Walter
> www.rationality.net
> -
>

Walter R. wrote:
> Here is the URL http://www.coffeecup.com/google-sitemapper/
>
> --
> Walter
> www.rationality.net
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> "Walter R." <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:JKkXf.21774$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Will the (Coffee Cup) Google Sitemapper 4.5 work with FrontPage
>> 2003? Any special considerations for FP?
>>
>> Has anyone tried it? Is it worthwhile installing?
>>
>> Thanks for any input
>>
>> --
>> Walter
>> www.rationality.net
>> -

I had a look at this program.

It simply creates files which you can use on your site and upload for use by
Google.

A file named sitemap.html is created which uses these (also created)
smfolder.gif
smfile.gif
smimg.gif

It creates a couple of other files whch the program asks you to upload to
your server.

As far as I can see, it has no impact on FP at all.
If you already gave an images folder it might be an idea to move the gif
files to that folder and amend sitemap.html to refer to that folder
e.g instead of src="smfile.gif" change it to src="images/smfile.gif"

FP would need to know about these, but I guess it will.

BTW, although the program does a few things for you, you can get the same
result by hand coding a sitemap.

See http://tandcl.homemail.com.au/sitemap.html
This is a sitemap which I already had in place. I have amended it slightly
to use one of the nice gifs that are created by coffeecup.com
google-sitemapper. And I used <dt> tags whereas before I had <li>. Otherwise
it is unchanged.

However, I gather the file sitemap.xml which is created may be used by
Google.
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Cheers,
Trevor L.
Website: http://tandcl.homemail.com.au

Thanks

I cannot FTP upload files to my FP enabled webserver without breaking the FP
extension. Are you saying that I need to import the files generated by
Coffeecup into my web and then publish my web to my webhost?
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Walter
www.rationality.net
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"Trevor L." <Trevor_L.@Canberra> wrote in message
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> Walter R. wrote:
>> Here is the URL http://www.coffeecup.com/google-sitemapper/
>>
>> --
>> Walter
>> www.rationality.net
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>> "Walter R." <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:JKkXf.21774$(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> Will the (Coffee Cup) Google Sitemapper 4.5 work with FrontPage
>>> 2003? Any special considerations for FP?
>>>
>>> Has anyone tried it? Is it worthwhile installing?
>>>
>>> Thanks for any input
>>>
>>> --
>>> Walter
>>> www.rationality.net
>>> -
>
> I had a look at this program.
>
> It simply creates files which you can use on your site and upload for use
> by Google.
>
> A file named sitemap.html is created which uses these (also created)
> smfolder.gif
> smfile.gif
> smimg.gif
>
> It creates a couple of other files whch the program asks you to upload to
> your server.
>
> As far as I can see, it has no impact on FP at all.
> If you already gave an images folder it might be an idea to move the gif
> files to that folder and amend sitemap.html to refer to that folder
> e.g instead of src="smfile.gif" change it to src="images/smfile.gif"
>
> FP would need to know about these, but I guess it will.
>
> BTW, although the program does a few things for you, you can get the same
> result by hand coding a sitemap.
>
> See http://tandcl.homemail.com.au/sitemap.html
> This is a sitemap which I already had in place. I have amended it slightly
> to use one of the nice gifs that are created by coffeecup.com
> google-sitemapper. And I used <dt> tags whereas before I had <li>.
> Otherwise it is unchanged.
>
> However, I gather the file sitemap.xml which is created may be used by
> Google.
> --
> Cheers,
> Trevor L.
> Website: http://tandcl.homemail.com.au
>

Walter R. wrote:
> Thanks
>
> I cannot FTP upload files to my FP enabled webserver without breaking
> the FP extension. Are you saying that I need to import the files
> generated by Coffeecup into my web and then publish my web to my
> webhost? --
> Walter
> www.rationality.net

When I tried Coffeecup, the program itself prompted me to upload.

However, I ignored this because I was only using the trial and the sitemap
wasn't complete - only 5 entries.
Instead I copied the files into my web folder using Windows Explorer.
When I came back to FP, the files were in my folder marked as "To Publish".

I chose to upload the gif files are they are useful images. For the sitemap
itself, I modified my own, using some of the stuff that Coffeecup generated
and uploaded that. At a later stage I may modify sitemap.xml and upload
that. (It also wasn't complete.)

Because I use FTP from FP (no FPSE on my server), my situation is different.

But my suggestions are
1. Use Coffeecup to generate your sitemap.
2. Back out of Coffeecup when it asks you to upload, but take a note of the
filenames and their location first.
3. Enter FP and import these files into your web.
4. Publish to the server.
5. Check the Publish Log to see that all the files in 2. were uploaded

This should ensure that you don't break the FP extensions.

If it fails, you may need others to help (e.g. those who use a FPSE server)
--
Cheers,
Trevor L.
Website: http://tandcl.homemail.com.au

There are sitemaps, and then there are GOOGLE sitemaps - which are differnt.

The Google ones need to be in .xml format.

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"Trevor L." <Trevor_L.@Canberra> wrote in message
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> Walter R. wrote:
>> Here is the URL http://www.coffeecup.com/google-sitemapper/
>>
>> --
>> Walter
>> www.rationality.net
>> -
>> "Walter R." <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:JKkXf.21774$(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> Will the (Coffee Cup) Google Sitemapper 4.5 work with FrontPage
>>> 2003? Any special considerations for FP?
>>>
>>> Has anyone tried it? Is it worthwhile installing?
>>>
>>> Thanks for any input
>>>
>>> --
>>> Walter
>>> www.rationality.net
>>> -
>
> I had a look at this program.
>
> It simply creates files which you can use on your site and upload for use
> by Google.
>
> A file named sitemap.html is created which uses these (also created)
> smfolder.gif
> smfile.gif
> smimg.gif
>
> It creates a couple of other files whch the program asks you to upload to
> your server.
>
> As far as I can see, it has no impact on FP at all.
> If you already gave an images folder it might be an idea to move the gif
> files to that folder and amend sitemap.html to refer to that folder
> e.g instead of src="smfile.gif" change it to src="images/smfile.gif"
>
> FP would need to know about these, but I guess it will.
>
> BTW, although the program does a few things for you, you can get the same
> result by hand coding a sitemap.
>
> See http://tandcl.homemail.com.au/sitemap.html
> This is a sitemap which I already had in place. I have amended it slightly
> to use one of the nice gifs that are created by coffeecup.com
> google-sitemapper. And I used <dt> tags whereas before I had <li>.
> Otherwise it is unchanged.
>
> However, I gather the file sitemap.xml which is created may be used by
> Google.
> --
> Cheers,
> Trevor L.
> Website: http://tandcl.homemail.com.au
>

The Coffeecup sitemaps are in the .xml format.

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Walter
www.rationality.net
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"Windsun" <wind-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> There are sitemaps, and then there are GOOGLE sitemaps - which are
> differnt.
>
> The Google ones need to be in .xml format.
>
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> "Trevor L." <Trevor_L.@Canberra> wrote in message
> news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Walter R. wrote:
>>> Here is the URL http://www.coffeecup.com/google-sitemapper/
>>>
>>> --
>>> Walter
>>> www.rationality.net
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>>> "Walter R." <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>> news:JKkXf.21774$(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>> Will the (Coffee Cup) Google Sitemapper 4.5 work with FrontPage
>>>> 2003? Any special considerations for FP?
>>>>
>>>> Has anyone tried it? Is it worthwhile installing?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for any input
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Walter
>>>> www.rationality.net
>>>> -
>>
>> I had a look at this program.
>>
>> It simply creates files which you can use on your site and upload for use
>> by Google.
>>
>> A file named sitemap.html is created which uses these (also created)
>> smfolder.gif
>> smfile.gif
>> smimg.gif
>>
>> It creates a couple of other files whch the program asks you to upload to
>> your server.
>>
>> As far as I can see, it has no impact on FP at all.
>> If you already gave an images folder it might be an idea to move the gif
>> files to that folder and amend sitemap.html to refer to that folder
>> e.g instead of src="smfile.gif" change it to src="images/smfile.gif"
>>
>> FP would need to know about these, but I guess it will.
>>
>> BTW, although the program does a few things for you, you can get the same
>> result by hand coding a sitemap.
>>
>> See http://tandcl.homemail.com.au/sitemap.html
>> This is a sitemap which I already had in place. I have amended it
>> slightly to use one of the nice gifs that are created by coffeecup.com
>> google-sitemapper. And I used <dt> tags whereas before I had <li>.
>> Otherwise it is unchanged.
>>
>> However, I gather the file sitemap.xml which is created may be used by
>> Google.
>> --
>> Cheers,
>> Trevor L.
>> Website: http://tandcl.homemail.com.au
>>
>
>

Remember you'll have to submit the sitemap.xml file to Googles Sitemaps
services for it to "work". And if you're using the html sitemap file as
well, you need to link it from one of your main URLs (just like any
internal link).

Cheers
John ( http://gsitecrawler.com <-- does the same + is free :-))

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> Remember you'll have to submit the sitemap.xml file to Googles
> Sitemaps services for it to "work". And if you're using the html
> sitemap file as well, you need to link it from one of your main URLs
> (just like any internal link).
>
> Cheers
> John ( http://gsitecrawler.com <-- does the same + is free :-))

So, how do you submit the xml file to Google ?
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Cheers,
Trevor L.
Website: http://tandcl.homemail.com.au

See http://www.google.com/webmasters/sit.../protocol.html

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"Trevor L." <Trevor_L.@Canberra> wrote in message news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
| (E-Mail Removed) wrote:
| > Remember you'll have to submit the sitemap.xml file to Googles
| > Sitemaps services for it to "work". And if you're using the html
| > sitemap file as well, you need to link it from one of your main URLs
| > (just like any internal link).
| >
| > Cheers
| > John ( http://gsitecrawler.com <-- does the same + is free :-))
|
| So, how do you submit the xml file to Google ?
| --
| Cheers,
| Trevor L.
| Website: http://tandcl.homemail.com.au
|
|