Ok, I found out all I needed to do was to change the 3 volt 2032 motherboard
battery and all would have been ok. Instead I reseated the RAM sticks,
changed the power supply, changed the video card, changed the IDE parallel
straps, changed the monitor, changed the hard drive, and finally took out the
motherboard and removed the heatsink and fan asembly off the CPU chip and
checked the chip out. After all that it turns out the reason the PC stopped
working was the little 3 volt battery on the motherboard. It worked again for
a little while, maybe a day after I changed the monitor. Just like a
flashlight that is going dead, after you sit it for a while the next day you
will get some power and it will work for a while and then dim out. Tell tail
signs of battery failure. By accident I was checking this new battery checker
device that I bought from Home Depot and I needed batteries to check to see
if the settings worked and found out the battery wasn't working.
Ok, now lets get to the CMOS. There is a CMOS jumper on the motherboard
that I see. What do I need to do to the jumper or do I need to physically do
anything on the mobo or just go into BIOS and configure something there?
Any help will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks, attilathehun1
--
attilathehun1

"attilathehun1" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:76051807-3291-4B09-BEB1-(E-Mail Removed)...

> Ok, now lets get to the CMOS. There is a CMOS jumper on the motherboard
> that I see. What do I need to do to the jumper or do I need to physically
do
> anything on the mobo or just go into BIOS and configure something there?

If the system ran OK when the battery was good, and failed when
the battery expired, it seems likely a new good battery will enable
the system to run OK. (Of course you may need to customize
BIOS settiings.)

If you ask specific questions about motherboard jumpers or
BIOS you will need to identify these before anyone can answer,
or else add your questions to a thread that already identifies them.

--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)

> Ok, I found out all I needed to do was to change the 3 volt 2032
> motherboard battery and all would have been ok. Instead I reseated
> the RAM sticks, changed the power supply, changed the video card,
> changed the IDE parallel straps, changed the monitor, changed the
> hard drive, and finally took out the motherboard and removed the
> heatsink and fan asembly off the CPU chip and checked the chip out.
> After all that it turns out the reason the PC stopped working was the
> little 3 volt battery on the motherboard. It worked again for a
> little while, maybe a day after I changed the monitor. Just like a
> flashlight that is going dead, after you sit it for a while the next
> day you will get some power and it will work for a while and then dim
> out. Tell tail signs of battery failure. By accident I was checking
> this new battery checker device that I bought from Home Depot and I
> needed batteries to check to see if the settings worked and found out
> the battery wasn't working.
> Ok, now lets get to the CMOS. There is a CMOS jumper on the
> motherboard
> that I see. What do I need to do to the jumper or do I need to
> physically do anything on the mobo or just go into BIOS and configure
> something there?
> Any help will be greatly appreciated.
> Thanks, attilathehun1


Go to the mobo mfg site and look for instructions on same. Are you sure
that's what it's for? Make certain. Get the wrong one and you could
possibly put improper voltages on something. Get the instructions for
that mobo somehow, if you have to look on EBay and Craig's List for
them.

Most likely, and it won't hurt anything to try:

If the jumper is on a header with only two pins:
remove it, wait about 60 seconds, replace it. CMOS should be reset.

If there are 3 pins in the header:
Pull the jumper off as above and replace it; see if it did anything.
No?
Put the jumper on the OTHER TWO pins for 60 seconds. The put back in
original position.
See if it helped.

More than 3 pins in the header? STOP! Don't mess with it. Either it's
the wrong one or there's something special about it.

HTH

OK, there are 3 pins on the jumper. Should I first try to start if up and see
if everything comes up fine? Or after I start it up go into BIOS and then
switch the jumper from 1 & 2 prong to 2 & 3 prong for how long and then
switch them back. Ok, I just want to know after firing up the PC, when to
start the jumper procedure.
Thanks, attilathehun1
--
attilathehun1


"Twayne" wrote:

> > Ok, I found out all I needed to do was to change the 3 volt 2032
> > motherboard battery and all would have been ok. Instead I reseated
> > the RAM sticks, changed the power supply, changed the video card,
> > changed the IDE parallel straps, changed the monitor, changed the
> > hard drive, and finally took out the motherboard and removed the
> > heatsink and fan asembly off the CPU chip and checked the chip out.
> > After all that it turns out the reason the PC stopped working was the
> > little 3 volt battery on the motherboard. It worked again for a
> > little while, maybe a day after I changed the monitor. Just like a
> > flashlight that is going dead, after you sit it for a while the next
> > day you will get some power and it will work for a while and then dim
> > out. Tell tail signs of battery failure. By accident I was checking
> > this new battery checker device that I bought from Home Depot and I
> > needed batteries to check to see if the settings worked and found out
> > the battery wasn't working.
> > Ok, now lets get to the CMOS. There is a CMOS jumper on the
> > motherboard
> > that I see. What do I need to do to the jumper or do I need to
> > physically do anything on the mobo or just go into BIOS and configure
> > something there?
> > Any help will be greatly appreciated.
> > Thanks, attilathehun1
>
>
> Go to the mobo mfg site and look for instructions on same. Are you sure
> that's what it's for? Make certain. Get the wrong one and you could
> possibly put improper voltages on something. Get the instructions for
> that mobo somehow, if you have to look on EBay and Craig's List for
> them.
>
> Most likely, and it won't hurt anything to try:
>
> If the jumper is on a header with only two pins:
> remove it, wait about 60 seconds, replace it. CMOS should be reset.
>
> If there are 3 pins in the header:
> Pull the jumper off as above and replace it; see if it did anything.
> No?
> Put the jumper on the OTHER TWO pins for 60 seconds. The put back in
> original position.
> See if it helped.
>
> More than 3 pins in the header? STOP! Don't mess with it. Either it's
> the wrong one or there's something special about it.
>
> HTH
>
>
>
>
>

"attilathehun1" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:76051807-3291-4B09-BEB1-(E-Mail Removed)...
> Ok, I found out all I needed to do was to change the 3 volt 2032
> motherboard
> battery and all would have been ok. Instead I reseated the RAM sticks,
> changed the power supply, changed the video card, changed the IDE parallel
> straps, changed the monitor, changed the hard drive, and finally took out
> the
> motherboard and removed the heatsink and fan asembly off the CPU chip and
> checked the chip out. After all that it turns out the reason the PC
> stopped
> working was the little 3 volt battery on the motherboard. It worked again
> for
> a little while, maybe a day after I changed the monitor. Just like a
> flashlight that is going dead, after you sit it for a while the next day
> you
> will get some power and it will work for a while and then dim out. Tell
> tail
> signs of battery failure. By accident I was checking this new battery
> checker
> device that I bought from Home Depot and I needed batteries to check to
> see
> if the settings worked and found out the battery wasn't working.
> Ok, now lets get to the CMOS. There is a CMOS jumper on the motherboard
> that I see. What do I need to do to the jumper or do I need to physically
> do
> anything on the mobo or just go into BIOS and configure something there?
> Any help will be greatly appreciated.
> Thanks, attilathehun1
> --
> attilathehun1


The CMOS jumper is generally set on two of three pins by default in order to
preserve BIOS settings. Moving the jumper to the 'other' pair will set the
BIOS to factory default, after which the jumper is placed back on the
'running' pair of pins

You don't have to move the jumper unless you have set some BIOS and the
computer will not boot properly to Windows..



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By removing the battery you've already set the CMOS to default....there is
no need to "jump" anything.
Restart and enter the BIOS...correct the date and let the BIOS redetect all
hardware...double check to see that it matches what you have.
Reboot and let it start whatever OS you are using...Go to Device manager and
check to see that all devices are functioning.
That’s it..............
Any Customizations that you had before will need to be redone...but first
make sure "default" works..!!!!!!!!

peter

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me and I will be only too happy to demonstrate... ;-)


"attilathehun1" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:ADCC1412-FC67-4427-9ED5-(E-Mail Removed)...
> OK, there are 3 pins on the jumper. Should I first try to start if up and
> see
> if everything comes up fine? Or after I start it up go into BIOS and then
> switch the jumper from 1 & 2 prong to 2 & 3 prong for how long and then
> switch them back. Ok, I just want to know after firing up the PC, when to
> start the jumper procedure.
> Thanks, attilathehun1
> --
> attilathehun1
>
>
> "Twayne" wrote:
>
>> > Ok, I found out all I needed to do was to change the 3 volt 2032
>> > motherboard battery and all would have been ok. Instead I reseated
>> > the RAM sticks, changed the power supply, changed the video card,
>> > changed the IDE parallel straps, changed the monitor, changed the
>> > hard drive, and finally took out the motherboard and removed the
>> > heatsink and fan asembly off the CPU chip and checked the chip out.
>> > After all that it turns out the reason the PC stopped working was the
>> > little 3 volt battery on the motherboard. It worked again for a
>> > little while, maybe a day after I changed the monitor. Just like a
>> > flashlight that is going dead, after you sit it for a while the next
>> > day you will get some power and it will work for a while and then dim
>> > out. Tell tail signs of battery failure. By accident I was checking
>> > this new battery checker device that I bought from Home Depot and I
>> > needed batteries to check to see if the settings worked and found out
>> > the battery wasn't working.
>> > Ok, now lets get to the CMOS. There is a CMOS jumper on the
>> > motherboard
>> > that I see. What do I need to do to the jumper or do I need to
>> > physically do anything on the mobo or just go into BIOS and configure
>> > something there?
>> > Any help will be greatly appreciated.
>> > Thanks, attilathehun1
>>
>>
>> Go to the mobo mfg site and look for instructions on same. Are you sure
>> that's what it's for? Make certain. Get the wrong one and you could
>> possibly put improper voltages on something. Get the instructions for
>> that mobo somehow, if you have to look on EBay and Craig's List for
>> them.
>>
>> Most likely, and it won't hurt anything to try:
>>
>> If the jumper is on a header with only two pins:
>> remove it, wait about 60 seconds, replace it. CMOS should be reset.
>>
>> If there are 3 pins in the header:
>> Pull the jumper off as above and replace it; see if it did anything.
>> No?
>> Put the jumper on the OTHER TWO pins for 60 seconds. The put back in
>> original position.
>> See if it helped.
>>
>> More than 3 pins in the header? STOP! Don't mess with it. Either it's
>> the wrong one or there's something special about it.
>>
>> HTH
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>

> By removing the battery you've already set the CMOS to
> default....there is no need to "jump" anything.
> Restart and enter the BIOS...correct the date and let the BIOS
> redetect all hardware...double check to see that it matches what you
> have. Reboot and let it start whatever OS you are using...Go to Device
> manager and check to see that all devices are functioning.
> That's it..............
> Any Customizations that you had before will need to be redone...but
> first make sure "default" works..!!!!!!!!
>
> peter

Good grief! How did I miss that? Good catch lol

>
>
> "attilathehun1" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
> message news:ADCC1412-FC67-4427-9ED5-(E-Mail Removed)...
>> OK, there are 3 pins on the jumper. Should I first try to start if
>> up and see
>> if everything comes up fine? Or after I start it up go into BIOS and
>> then switch the jumper from 1 & 2 prong to 2 & 3 prong for how long
>> and then switch them back. Ok, I just want to know after firing up
>> the PC, when to start the jumper procedure.
>> Thanks,
>> attilathehun1 --
>> attilathehun1
>>
>>
>> "Twayne" wrote:
>>
>>>> Ok, I found out all I needed to do was to change the 3 volt 2032
>>>> motherboard battery and all would have been ok. Instead I reseated
>>>> the RAM sticks, changed the power supply, changed the video card,
>>>> changed the IDE parallel straps, changed the monitor, changed the
>>>> hard drive, and finally took out the motherboard and removed the
>>>> heatsink and fan asembly off the CPU chip and checked the chip out.
>>>> After all that it turns out the reason the PC stopped working was
>>>> the little 3 volt battery on the motherboard. It worked again for a
>>>> little while, maybe a day after I changed the monitor. Just like a
>>>> flashlight that is going dead, after you sit it for a while the
>>>> next day you will get some power and it will work for a while and
>>>> then dim out. Tell tail signs of battery failure. By accident I
>>>> was checking this new battery checker device that I bought from
>>>> Home Depot and I needed batteries to check to see if the settings
>>>> worked and found out the battery wasn't working.
>>>> Ok, now lets get to the CMOS. There is a CMOS jumper on the
>>>> motherboard
>>>> that I see. What do I need to do to the jumper or do I need to
>>>> physically do anything on the mobo or just go into BIOS and
>>>> configure something there?
>>>> Any help will be greatly appreciated.
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> attilathehun1
>>>
>>>
>>> Go to the mobo mfg site and look for instructions on same. Are you
>>> sure that's what it's for? Make certain. Get the wrong one and
>>> you could possibly put improper voltages on something. Get the
>>> instructions for that mobo somehow, if you have to look on EBay and
>>> Craig's List for them.
>>>
>>> Most likely, and it won't hurt anything to try:
>>>
>>> If the jumper is on a header with only two pins:
>>> remove it, wait about 60 seconds, replace it. CMOS should be
>>> reset. If there are 3 pins in the header:
>>> Pull the jumper off as above and replace it; see if it did
>>> anything. No?
>>> Put the jumper on the OTHER TWO pins for 60 seconds. The put
>>> back in original position.
>>> See if it helped.
>>>
>>> More than 3 pins in the header? STOP! Don't mess with it. Either
>>> it's the wrong one or there's something special about it.
>>>
>>> HTH

Leave the jumper alone. It's purpose is to allow you to physically reset the
CMOS settings back to their original settings. Removing the battery for a
few minutes typically does the same thing. So the dead battery took care of
that . Once the fresh battery is installed simply start the computer.
However if you had some custom setting in the BIOS you will need to reset
those but that is done by accessing the BIOS not moving jumpers around.
--

Xandros


"attilathehun1" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:76051807-3291-4B09-BEB1-(E-Mail Removed)...
> Ok, I found out all I needed to do was to change the 3 volt 2032
> motherboard
> battery and all would have been ok. Instead I reseated the RAM sticks,
> changed the power supply, changed the video card, changed the IDE parallel
> straps, changed the monitor, changed the hard drive, and finally took out
> the
> motherboard and removed the heatsink and fan asembly off the CPU chip and
> checked the chip out. After all that it turns out the reason the PC
> stopped
> working was the little 3 volt battery on the motherboard. It worked again
> for
> a little while, maybe a day after I changed the monitor. Just like a
> flashlight that is going dead, after you sit it for a while the next day
> you
> will get some power and it will work for a while and then dim out. Tell
> tail
> signs of battery failure. By accident I was checking this new battery
> checker
> device that I bought from Home Depot and I needed batteries to check to
> see
> if the settings worked and found out the battery wasn't working.
> Ok, now lets get to the CMOS. There is a CMOS jumper on the motherboard
> that I see. What do I need to do to the jumper or do I need to physically
> do
> anything on the mobo or just go into BIOS and configure something there?
> Any help will be greatly appreciated.
> Thanks, attilathehun1
> --
> attilathehun1

So, unless I'm having some type of problem, all I do it go into BIOS and
configure the correct date, can't I fix the date from the system tray on the
right hand bottom corner task bar? Or do I have to go into BIOS while it's
booting up the first time and correct the date there?
Also, if I am having problems after I correct the date, then and only then
do I physically go onto the mobo and move the jumpers over one prong, and
then put them back into the position they were at before I touched them? How
long do I keep it over onto the new position and then move it back onto the
original position?
Maybe lets wait until I get that far. well, no, I think if I get that
answered even though I don't need to do it, it would be good experience.
Any more help or ideas will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks, attilathehun1
--
attilathehun1


"philo" wrote:

>
> "attilathehun1" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:76051807-3291-4B09-BEB1-(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Ok, I found out all I needed to do was to change the 3 volt 2032
> motherboard
> > battery and all would have been ok. Instead I reseated the RAM sticks,
> > changed the power supply, changed the video card, changed the IDE parallel
> > straps, changed the monitor, changed the hard drive, and finally took out
> the
> > motherboard and removed the heatsink and fan asembly off the CPU chip and
> > checked the chip out. After all that it turns out the reason the PC
> stopped
> > working was the little 3 volt battery on the motherboard. It worked again
> for
> > a little while, maybe a day after I changed the monitor. Just like a
> > flashlight that is going dead, after you sit it for a while the next day
> you
> > will get some power and it will work for a while and then dim out. Tell
> tail
> > signs of battery failure. By accident I was checking this new battery
> checker
> > device that I bought from Home Depot and I needed batteries to check to
> see
> > if the settings worked and found out the battery wasn't working.
> > Ok, now lets get to the CMOS. There is a CMOS jumper on the motherboard
> > that I see. What do I need to do to the jumper or do I need to physically
> do
> > anything on the mobo or just go into BIOS and configure something there?
> > Any help will be greatly appreciated.
> > Thanks, attilathehun1
>
>
> Nope,you don't have to do much more than just reset the date.
> Glad you got it working.
>
>
>

"attilathehun1" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:403C0239-6B0C-4A7A-AB0B-(E-Mail Removed)...
> So, unless I'm having some type of problem, all I do it go into BIOS and
> configure the correct date, can't I fix the date from the system tray on
> the
> right hand bottom corner task bar? Or do I have to go into BIOS while it's
> booting up the first time and correct the date there?

Yes, no, yes.

> Also, if I am having problems after I correct the date,

Bridge, cross, if and when you come to it.

> then and only then
> do I physically go onto the mobo and move the jumpers over one prong, and
> then put them back into the position they were at before I touched them?
> How
> long do I keep it over onto the new position and then move it back onto
> the
> original position?
> Maybe lets wait until I get that far.

Yes! Just change the chuffing date and time for now! :-)

> well, no, I think if I get that
> answered even though I don't need to do it, it would be good experience.
> Any more help or ideas will be greatly appreciated.

Yes: if you want to work towards a working system, just set the date and
time and then see where you're at. If you want to start moving jumpers
around just as a learning experience, go ahead *afterwards*, and at your own
peril!

> Thanks, attilathehun1
> --

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