I had one question re dynamic vs. basic which has been answered.
Now I have the following dilemma:
I have a 40 gig disk where my XP Pro is lying
I want to clone it onto a 500 gig SATA
Norton Ghost 2003 is not really working as I had hoped, does XP Pro allow me
to migrate/clone onto my 500 gig.
Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated.
Thank you.

"AIANDAS" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:27407B1A-2164-411A-AAF2-(E-Mail Removed)...
>I had one question re dynamic vs. basic which has been answered.
> Now I have the following dilemma:
> I have a 40 gig disk where my XP Pro is lying
> I want to clone it onto a 500 gig SATA
> Norton Ghost 2003 is not really working as I had hoped, does XP Pro allow
> me
> to migrate/clone onto my 500 gig.
> Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated.
> Thank you.

Cloning utilities belong to the class of tools that usually do not work with
dynamic disks . . .

Windows does not have any inbuilt tools for cloning. Here are a few options:
a) Use the cloning tool that the manufacturer of the new disk makes
available on his home site.
b) Connect both the old disk and the new disk to some other PC, then use
robocopy.exe to perform the cloning.
c) Boot the machine with a Bart PE boot CD (which you have to manufacture),
then continue as per option b).

Some extra notes for options b) and c):
- You must partition and format the target disk before commencing the copy
process.
- You must mark the first partition as "active".
- You must use the appropriate switches with robocopy.exe so that it copies
hidden and system files.
- When booting the machine for the first time with the new disk, make sure
that the old disk remains disconnected.

OK some of the items I'll have to look up.
In my case my SATA HDD is by Seagate, so they'll have something on their
website which will allow me to migrate my OS etc?
The drive itself was OEM so I did not get a CD or whatever. Thank you.

"Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:

>
> "AIANDAS" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:27407B1A-2164-411A-AAF2-(E-Mail Removed)...
> >I had one question re dynamic vs. basic which has been answered.
> > Now I have the following dilemma:
> > I have a 40 gig disk where my XP Pro is lying
> > I want to clone it onto a 500 gig SATA
> > Norton Ghost 2003 is not really working as I had hoped, does XP Pro allow
> > me
> > to migrate/clone onto my 500 gig.
> > Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated.
> > Thank you.
>
> Cloning utilities belong to the class of tools that usually do not work with
> dynamic disks . . .
>
> Windows does not have any inbuilt tools for cloning. Here are a few options:
> a) Use the cloning tool that the manufacturer of the new disk makes
> available on his home site.
> b) Connect both the old disk and the new disk to some other PC, then use
> robocopy.exe to perform the cloning.
> c) Boot the machine with a Bart PE boot CD (which you have to manufacture),
> then continue as per option b).
>
> Some extra notes for options b) and c):
> - You must partition and format the target disk before commencing the copy
> process.
> - You must mark the first partition as "active".
> - You must use the appropriate switches with robocopy.exe so that it copies
> hidden and system files.
> - When booting the machine for the first time with the new disk, make sure
> that the old disk remains disconnected.
>
>
>

"AIANDAS" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:E1BBFB4C-556B-40CE-AAF1-(E-Mail Removed)...
> OK some of the items I'll have to look up.
> In my case my SATA HDD is by Seagate, so they'll have something on their
> website which will allow me to migrate my OS etc?
> The drive itself was OEM so I did not get a CD or whatever. Thank you.

You'll have to check the Seagate site yourself for cloning tools.

"AIANDAS" wrote:

> OK some of the items I'll have to look up.
> In my case my SATA HDD is by Seagate, so they'll have something on their
> website which will allow me to migrate my OS etc?
> The drive itself was OEM so I did not get a CD or whatever. Thank you.
>
> "Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:
>
> >
> > "AIANDAS" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:27407B1A-2164-411A-AAF2-(E-Mail Removed)...
> > >I had one question re dynamic vs. basic which has been answered.
> > > Now I have the following dilemma:
> > > I have a 40 gig disk where my XP Pro is lying
> > > I want to clone it onto a 500 gig SATA
> > > Norton Ghost 2003 is not really working as I had hoped, does XP Pro allow
> > > me
> > > to migrate/clone onto my 500 gig.
> > > Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated.
> > > Thank you.
> >
> > Cloning utilities belong to the class of tools that usually do not work with
> > dynamic disks . . .
> >
> > Windows does not have any inbuilt tools for cloning. Here are a few options:
> > a) Use the cloning tool that the manufacturer of the new disk makes
> > available on his home site.
> > b) Connect both the old disk and the new disk to some other PC, then use
> > robocopy.exe to perform the cloning.
> > c) Boot the machine with a Bart PE boot CD (which you have to manufacture),
> > then continue as per option b).
> >
> > Some extra notes for options b) and c):
> > - You must partition and format the target disk before commencing the copy
> > process.
> > - You must mark the first partition as "active".
> > - You must use the appropriate switches with robocopy.exe so that it copies
> > hidden and system files.
> > - When booting the machine for the first time with the new disk, make sure
> > that the old disk remains disconnected.
> >
> >
> >
Seagate now has a cloning tool from Acronis. Go to the Seagate website, find
the cloning and formating software for your model hard drive. Download the
tools and create a bootable CD from the download. Put the bootable CD in the
CD drive and shut down the computer. Open the case and attach the new hard
drive to the IDE cable. Set jumper to "slave". If SATA, attach to an
available port. Boot the computer off the CD and use the clone tool to clone
to the new drive. When done, shut down the computer and disconnect and remove
the original hard drive. Set the new drive jumper to "master" for IDE or
connect to the original SATA port. Boot the computer and you should be good
to go. Works every time.

OK thank you very much..........

"Mark Adams" wrote:

>
>
> "AIANDAS" wrote:
>
> > OK some of the items I'll have to look up.
> > In my case my SATA HDD is by Seagate, so they'll have something on their
> > website which will allow me to migrate my OS etc?
> > The drive itself was OEM so I did not get a CD or whatever. Thank you.
> >
> > "Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > "AIANDAS" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > > news:27407B1A-2164-411A-AAF2-(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > >I had one question re dynamic vs. basic which has been answered.
> > > > Now I have the following dilemma:
> > > > I have a 40 gig disk where my XP Pro is lying
> > > > I want to clone it onto a 500 gig SATA
> > > > Norton Ghost 2003 is not really working as I had hoped, does XP Pro allow
> > > > me
> > > > to migrate/clone onto my 500 gig.
> > > > Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated.
> > > > Thank you.
> > >
> > > Cloning utilities belong to the class of tools that usually do not work with
> > > dynamic disks . . .
> > >
> > > Windows does not have any inbuilt tools for cloning. Here are a few options:
> > > a) Use the cloning tool that the manufacturer of the new disk makes
> > > available on his home site.
> > > b) Connect both the old disk and the new disk to some other PC, then use
> > > robocopy.exe to perform the cloning.
> > > c) Boot the machine with a Bart PE boot CD (which you have to manufacture),
> > > then continue as per option b).
> > >
> > > Some extra notes for options b) and c):
> > > - You must partition and format the target disk before commencing the copy
> > > process.
> > > - You must mark the first partition as "active".
> > > - You must use the appropriate switches with robocopy.exe so that it copies
> > > hidden and system files.
> > > - When booting the machine for the first time with the new disk, make sure
> > > that the old disk remains disconnected.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> Seagate now has a cloning tool from Acronis. Go to the Seagate website, find
> the cloning and formating software for your model hard drive. Download the
> tools and create a bootable CD from the download. Put the bootable CD in the
> CD drive and shut down the computer. Open the case and attach the new hard
> drive to the IDE cable. Set jumper to "slave". If SATA, attach to an
> available port. Boot the computer off the CD and use the clone tool to clone
> to the new drive. When done, shut down the computer and disconnect and remove
> the original hard drive. Set the new drive jumper to "master" for IDE or
> connect to the original SATA port. Boot the computer and you should be good
> to go. Works every time.

OK I had the good luck to find the cloning utility on the Acronis software.
Sure enough it did the job. Now I am having a problem getting the previously
slave IDE to be recognized as right now I had it in slave mode on the jumper
settings.
So now I have to fiddle with the settings unless someone knows better how to
get the IDE to be recognized?
OUF!

"AIANDAS" wrote:

> OK thank you very much..........
>
> "Mark Adams" wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > "AIANDAS" wrote:
> >
> > > OK some of the items I'll have to look up.
> > > In my case my SATA HDD is by Seagate, so they'll have something on their
> > > website which will allow me to migrate my OS etc?
> > > The drive itself was OEM so I did not get a CD or whatever. Thank you.
> > >
> > > "Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > "AIANDAS" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > > > news:27407B1A-2164-411A-AAF2-(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > > >I had one question re dynamic vs. basic which has been answered.
> > > > > Now I have the following dilemma:
> > > > > I have a 40 gig disk where my XP Pro is lying
> > > > > I want to clone it onto a 500 gig SATA
> > > > > Norton Ghost 2003 is not really working as I had hoped, does XP Pro allow
> > > > > me
> > > > > to migrate/clone onto my 500 gig.
> > > > > Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated.
> > > > > Thank you.
> > > >
> > > > Cloning utilities belong to the class of tools that usually do not work with
> > > > dynamic disks . . .
> > > >
> > > > Windows does not have any inbuilt tools for cloning. Here are a few options:
> > > > a) Use the cloning tool that the manufacturer of the new disk makes
> > > > available on his home site.
> > > > b) Connect both the old disk and the new disk to some other PC, then use
> > > > robocopy.exe to perform the cloning.
> > > > c) Boot the machine with a Bart PE boot CD (which you have to manufacture),
> > > > then continue as per option b).
> > > >
> > > > Some extra notes for options b) and c):
> > > > - You must partition and format the target disk before commencing the copy
> > > > process.
> > > > - You must mark the first partition as "active".
> > > > - You must use the appropriate switches with robocopy.exe so that it copies
> > > > hidden and system files.
> > > > - When booting the machine for the first time with the new disk, make sure
> > > > that the old disk remains disconnected.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > Seagate now has a cloning tool from Acronis. Go to the Seagate website, find
> > the cloning and formating software for your model hard drive. Download the
> > tools and create a bootable CD from the download. Put the bootable CD in the
> > CD drive and shut down the computer. Open the case and attach the new hard
> > drive to the IDE cable. Set jumper to "slave". If SATA, attach to an
> > available port. Boot the computer off the CD and use the clone tool to clone
> > to the new drive. When done, shut down the computer and disconnect and remove
> > the original hard drive. Set the new drive jumper to "master" for IDE or
> > connect to the original SATA port. Boot the computer and you should be good
> > to go. Works every time.

"AIANDAS" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:22DFE102-AC02-4750-964A-(E-Mail Removed)...
> OK I had the good luck to find the cloning utility on the Acronis
> software.
> Sure enough it did the job. Now I am having a problem getting the
> previously
> slave IDE to be recognized as right now I had it in slave mode on the
> jumper
> settings.
> So now I have to fiddle with the settings unless someone knows better how
> to
> get the IDE to be recognized?
> OUF!
>
> "AIANDAS" wrote:
>
>> OK thank you very much..........
>>
>> "Mark Adams" wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > "AIANDAS" wrote:
>> >
>> > > OK some of the items I'll have to look up.
>> > > In my case my SATA HDD is by Seagate, so they'll have something on
>> > > their
>> > > website which will allow me to migrate my OS etc?
>> > > The drive itself was OEM so I did not get a CD or whatever. Thank
>> > > you.
>> > >
>> > > "Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:
>> > >
>> > > >
>> > > > "AIANDAS" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> > > > news:27407B1A-2164-411A-AAF2-(E-Mail Removed)...
>> > > > >I had one question re dynamic vs. basic which has been answered.
>> > > > > Now I have the following dilemma:
>> > > > > I have a 40 gig disk where my XP Pro is lying
>> > > > > I want to clone it onto a 500 gig SATA
>> > > > > Norton Ghost 2003 is not really working as I had hoped, does XP
>> > > > > Pro allow
>> > > > > me
>> > > > > to migrate/clone onto my 500 gig.
>> > > > > Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated.
>> > > > > Thank you.
>> > > >
>> > > > Cloning utilities belong to the class of tools that usually do not
>> > > > work with
>> > > > dynamic disks . . .
>> > > >
>> > > > Windows does not have any inbuilt tools for cloning. Here are a few
>> > > > options:
>> > > > a) Use the cloning tool that the manufacturer of the new disk makes
>> > > > available on his home site.
>> > > > b) Connect both the old disk and the new disk to some other PC,
>> > > > then use
>> > > > robocopy.exe to perform the cloning.
>> > > > c) Boot the machine with a Bart PE boot CD (which you have to
>> > > > manufacture),
>> > > > then continue as per option b).
>> > > >
>> > > > Some extra notes for options b) and c):
>> > > > - You must partition and format the target disk before commencing
>> > > > the copy
>> > > > process.
>> > > > - You must mark the first partition as "active".
>> > > > - You must use the appropriate switches with robocopy.exe so that
>> > > > it copies
>> > > > hidden and system files.
>> > > > - When booting the machine for the first time with the new disk,
>> > > > make sure
>> > > > that the old disk remains disconnected.
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > Seagate now has a cloning tool from Acronis. Go to the Seagate website,
>> > find
>> > the cloning and formating software for your model hard drive. Download
>> > the
>> > tools and create a bootable CD from the download. Put the bootable CD
>> > in the
>> > CD drive and shut down the computer. Open the case and attach the new
>> > hard
>> > drive to the IDE cable. Set jumper to "slave". If SATA, attach to an
>> > available port. Boot the computer off the CD and use the clone tool to
>> > clone
>> > to the new drive. When done, shut down the computer and disconnect and
>> > remove
>> > the original hard drive. Set the new drive jumper to "master" for IDE
>> > or
>> > connect to the original SATA port. Boot the computer and you should be
>> > good
>> > to go. Works every time.
Doesn't your computer use "Cable Select" for IDE drives? If so, you just
put the master plug (the last one) into the drive that you want to be the
master.
Jim

It's quite possible the storage IDE may be damaged. That's speculation right
now.
THe deal is that BIOS can see the Seagate 160 gig drive yet Windows, i.e.,
disk management does not. If BIOS can see it shouldn't Windows see it? Unless
it's damaged but BIOS can see it regardless the state of drive?
Thanks in advance.

"Jim" wrote:

>
> "AIANDAS" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:22DFE102-AC02-4750-964A-(E-Mail Removed)...
> > OK I had the good luck to find the cloning utility on the Acronis
> > software.
> > Sure enough it did the job. Now I am having a problem getting the
> > previously
> > slave IDE to be recognized as right now I had it in slave mode on the
> > jumper
> > settings.
> > So now I have to fiddle with the settings unless someone knows better how
> > to
> > get the IDE to be recognized?
> > OUF!
> >
> > "AIANDAS" wrote:
> >
> >> OK thank you very much..........
> >>
> >> "Mark Adams" wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "AIANDAS" wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > OK some of the items I'll have to look up.
> >> > > In my case my SATA HDD is by Seagate, so they'll have something on
> >> > > their
> >> > > website which will allow me to migrate my OS etc?
> >> > > The drive itself was OEM so I did not get a CD or whatever. Thank
> >> > > you.
> >> > >
> >> > > "Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > "AIANDAS" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> >> > > > news:27407B1A-2164-411A-AAF2-(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> > > > >I had one question re dynamic vs. basic which has been answered.
> >> > > > > Now I have the following dilemma:
> >> > > > > I have a 40 gig disk where my XP Pro is lying
> >> > > > > I want to clone it onto a 500 gig SATA
> >> > > > > Norton Ghost 2003 is not really working as I had hoped, does XP
> >> > > > > Pro allow
> >> > > > > me
> >> > > > > to migrate/clone onto my 500 gig.
> >> > > > > Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated.
> >> > > > > Thank you.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Cloning utilities belong to the class of tools that usually do not
> >> > > > work with
> >> > > > dynamic disks . . .
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Windows does not have any inbuilt tools for cloning. Here are a few
> >> > > > options:
> >> > > > a) Use the cloning tool that the manufacturer of the new disk makes
> >> > > > available on his home site.
> >> > > > b) Connect both the old disk and the new disk to some other PC,
> >> > > > then use
> >> > > > robocopy.exe to perform the cloning.
> >> > > > c) Boot the machine with a Bart PE boot CD (which you have to
> >> > > > manufacture),
> >> > > > then continue as per option b).
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Some extra notes for options b) and c):
> >> > > > - You must partition and format the target disk before commencing
> >> > > > the copy
> >> > > > process.
> >> > > > - You must mark the first partition as "active".
> >> > > > - You must use the appropriate switches with robocopy.exe so that
> >> > > > it copies
> >> > > > hidden and system files.
> >> > > > - When booting the machine for the first time with the new disk,
> >> > > > make sure
> >> > > > that the old disk remains disconnected.
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > Seagate now has a cloning tool from Acronis. Go to the Seagate website,
> >> > find
> >> > the cloning and formating software for your model hard drive. Download
> >> > the
> >> > tools and create a bootable CD from the download. Put the bootable CD
> >> > in the
> >> > CD drive and shut down the computer. Open the case and attach the new
> >> > hard
> >> > drive to the IDE cable. Set jumper to "slave". If SATA, attach to an
> >> > available port. Boot the computer off the CD and use the clone tool to
> >> > clone
> >> > to the new drive. When done, shut down the computer and disconnect and
> >> > remove
> >> > the original hard drive. Set the new drive jumper to "master" for IDE
> >> > or
> >> > connect to the original SATA port. Boot the computer and you should be
> >> > good
> >> > to go. Works every time.
> Doesn't your computer use "Cable Select" for IDE drives? If so, you just
> put the master plug (the last one) into the drive that you want to be the
> master.
> Jim
>
>
>

not really, bios talks to the hardware, and sees the size and maker, windows
wants to see the file structure and other details, if it's not formatted
properly bios will see it but not windows. the cloning feature should have
assigned a drive letter and file structure.

did you remove the old drive before trying to boot with the new drive?

"AIANDAS" wrote:

> It's quite possible the storage IDE may be damaged. That's speculation right
> now.
> THe deal is that BIOS can see the Seagate 160 gig drive yet Windows, i.e.,
> disk management does not. If BIOS can see it shouldn't Windows see it? Unless
> it's damaged but BIOS can see it regardless the state of drive?
> Thanks in advance.
>
> "Jim" wrote:
>
> >
> > "AIANDAS" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:22DFE102-AC02-4750-964A-(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > OK I had the good luck to find the cloning utility on the Acronis
> > > software.
> > > Sure enough it did the job. Now I am having a problem getting the
> > > previously
> > > slave IDE to be recognized as right now I had it in slave mode on the
> > > jumper
> > > settings.
> > > So now I have to fiddle with the settings unless someone knows better how
> > > to
> > > get the IDE to be recognized?
> > > OUF!
> > >
> > > "AIANDAS" wrote:
> > >
> > >> OK thank you very much..........
> > >>
> > >> "Mark Adams" wrote:
> > >>
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > "AIANDAS" wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > > OK some of the items I'll have to look up.
> > >> > > In my case my SATA HDD is by Seagate, so they'll have something on
> > >> > > their
> > >> > > website which will allow me to migrate my OS etc?
> > >> > > The drive itself was OEM so I did not get a CD or whatever. Thank
> > >> > > you.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > "Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > "AIANDAS" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > >> > > > news:27407B1A-2164-411A-AAF2-(E-Mail Removed)...
> > >> > > > >I had one question re dynamic vs. basic which has been answered.
> > >> > > > > Now I have the following dilemma:
> > >> > > > > I have a 40 gig disk where my XP Pro is lying
> > >> > > > > I want to clone it onto a 500 gig SATA
> > >> > > > > Norton Ghost 2003 is not really working as I had hoped, does XP
> > >> > > > > Pro allow
> > >> > > > > me
> > >> > > > > to migrate/clone onto my 500 gig.
> > >> > > > > Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated.
> > >> > > > > Thank you.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Cloning utilities belong to the class of tools that usually do not
> > >> > > > work with
> > >> > > > dynamic disks . . .
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Windows does not have any inbuilt tools for cloning. Here are a few
> > >> > > > options:
> > >> > > > a) Use the cloning tool that the manufacturer of the new disk makes
> > >> > > > available on his home site.
> > >> > > > b) Connect both the old disk and the new disk to some other PC,
> > >> > > > then use
> > >> > > > robocopy.exe to perform the cloning.
> > >> > > > c) Boot the machine with a Bart PE boot CD (which you have to
> > >> > > > manufacture),
> > >> > > > then continue as per option b).
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Some extra notes for options b) and c):
> > >> > > > - You must partition and format the target disk before commencing
> > >> > > > the copy
> > >> > > > process.
> > >> > > > - You must mark the first partition as "active".
> > >> > > > - You must use the appropriate switches with robocopy.exe so that
> > >> > > > it copies
> > >> > > > hidden and system files.
> > >> > > > - When booting the machine for the first time with the new disk,
> > >> > > > make sure
> > >> > > > that the old disk remains disconnected.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > Seagate now has a cloning tool from Acronis. Go to the Seagate website,
> > >> > find
> > >> > the cloning and formating software for your model hard drive. Download
> > >> > the
> > >> > tools and create a bootable CD from the download. Put the bootable CD
> > >> > in the
> > >> > CD drive and shut down the computer. Open the case and attach the new
> > >> > hard
> > >> > drive to the IDE cable. Set jumper to "slave". If SATA, attach to an
> > >> > available port. Boot the computer off the CD and use the clone tool to
> > >> > clone
> > >> > to the new drive. When done, shut down the computer and disconnect and
> > >> > remove
> > >> > the original hard drive. Set the new drive jumper to "master" for IDE
> > >> > or
> > >> > connect to the original SATA port. Boot the computer and you should be
> > >> > good
> > >> > to go. Works every time.
> > Doesn't your computer use "Cable Select" for IDE drives? If so, you just
> > put the master plug (the last one) into the drive that you want to be the
> > master.
> > Jim
> >
> >
> >