Hey

I look for a Solution to clone a XP embedded Image with
EWF enabled!1:1 Copy from the Harddisk!

My Steps are:

- I build a Runtime Image with the Target designer
- I copy the Files to the Target System
- I start my Target System at FBA start
- I wait until the Messagebox "Maschine resealed!Click OK
to reboot" and then I clone my Image with Northon Ghost!
- Now I can clone this Image on every Target System with
the same Hardware!
- But I must install all my other Software after this
Process
- What I want is a Image with my hole Installation that I
can clone on ever Target System and the Image shoud be so
small as possible I mean without the EWF Partition because
Ghost can´t compressing the EWF Partition and after the
cloning I have no access to the EWF Partition!
I checked and the EWF partition is there. When I
run "ewfmgr c:" I still
get: Failed getting protected volume configuration with
error 1.



Is it posible to build the EWF partition after I install
my other Software because if I make a Image of my hole
Harddisk with EWF Partition is enabled it is very large
and it doesn t work!

mfg
Dietmar

This is what I do, though it may not be suitable for what
you want.
I run the first part of FBA on a hard drive, and then copy
these files off onto our network.
I then copy this onto however many CF cards I need it on.
When they are booted, they reseal themselves, reboot, then
on first booting as finished systems, a RUN key launches a
batch file which deals with all the configuration the
boxes require, including enabling the EWF and then removes
itself from the registry before rebooting. You then have a
collection of unique, configured boxes which you didn't
need to do anything to. You can set them up to have, say,
unique IP addresses, simply by changing the batch file on
each one - or you can leave them all the same.

>-----Original Message-----
>Hey
>
>I look for a Solution to clone a XP embedded Image with
>EWF enabled!1:1 Copy from the Harddisk!
>
>My Steps are:
>
>- I build a Runtime Image with the Target designer
>- I copy the Files to the Target System
>- I start my Target System at FBA start
>- I wait until the Messagebox "Maschine resealed!Click OK
>to reboot" and then I clone my Image with Northon Ghost!
>- Now I can clone this Image on every Target System with
>the same Hardware!
>- But I must install all my other Software after this
>Process
>- What I want is a Image with my hole Installation that I
>can clone on ever Target System and the Image shoud be
so
>small as possible I mean without the EWF Partition
because
>Ghost can´t compressing the EWF Partition and after the
>cloning I have no access to the EWF Partition!
>I checked and the EWF partition is there. When I
>run "ewfmgr c:" I still
>get: Failed getting protected volume configuration
with
>error 1.
>
>
>
>Is it posible to build the EWF partition after I install
>my other Software because if I make a Image of my hole
>Harddisk with EWF Partition is enabled it is very large
>and it doesn t work!
>
>mfg
>Dietmar
>
>.
>

Dietmar:

First off, I use XPe SP1 with RAM-based EWF deploying to HD's so I can't
speak for CF. I'll leave that to others... ;-)

I have done this with Ghost but it wasn't a off-the-shelf retail version of
Ghost. To make a VERY long story short, search old posts about this since I
know some time back I explained how I do this. The key with Ghost is the
switches SZEE and FDSP. From what I recall, these switches did not work in
Ghost V6.5 or V7.5 but I haven't tried it in a while. Maybe some one can
correct me on this. For example, I create a ghost image of my master disk
that has had fba run, all my other 3rd party s/w applications loaded, and
the EWF partition. Then when I deploy, I use the following bat file:

ghost -clone,mode=load,src=cae2_v4,dst=1,szee -fdsp -batch

The key after ghosting when having cloned the EWF partition is that the EWF
will be enabled. You need to do a -commitanddisable and reboot. This will
disable the EWF so that you can tweak further.

Also, look into the PowerQuest products since I think that this s/w can also
clone the EWF partition.

I know that people say that RAM-based EWF still works with no EWF partition
but there are caveats. I like to disable, enable, and commit whenever I
want, and my deployment process allows this.

HTH... Doug
"Dietmar" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:145301c38375$af311e70$(E-Mail Removed)...
Hey

I look for a Solution to clone a XP embedded Image with
EWF enabled!1:1 Copy from the Harddisk!

My Steps are:

- I build a Runtime Image with the Target designer
- I copy the Files to the Target System
- I start my Target System at FBA start
- I wait until the Messagebox "Maschine resealed!Click OK
to reboot" and then I clone my Image with Northon Ghost!
- Now I can clone this Image on every Target System with
the same Hardware!
- But I must install all my other Software after this
Process
- What I want is a Image with my hole Installation that I
can clone on ever Target System and the Image shoud be so
small as possible I mean without the EWF Partition because
Ghost can´t compressing the EWF Partition and after the
cloning I have no access to the EWF Partition!
I checked and the EWF partition is there. When I
run "ewfmgr c:" I still
get: Failed getting protected volume configuration with
error 1.



Is it posible to build the EWF partition after I install
my other Software because if I make a Image of my hole
Harddisk with EWF Partition is enabled it is very large
and it doesn t work!

mfg
Dietmar

Hi Doug,

> I know that people say that RAM-based EWF still works with no EWF
partition
> but there are caveats. I like to disable, enable, and commit whenever I
> want, and my deployment process allows this.

Only command that does not work is disable, but instead you could use
commitanddisable it is similar to disable but it will also commit current
changes.
So if you don't need to disable protection and then reset device then
commitanddisable will do the job.

You can configure EWF from TD so EWF partition is never created. RAM EWF
will work perfectly without it, but it can protect only one partition (this
should not be a problem in most cases).

Best regards,
Slobodan

I must admit that I don't understand what you are trying to accomplish with
all steps you mentioned. You design could be good or bad I don't know, and I
wont talk you out of it.

> Is it posible to build the EWF partition after I install
> my other Software because if I make a Image of my hole
> Harddisk with EWF Partition is enabled it is very large
> and it doesn t work!

Like Heidi said to me: "I was not in any way suggesting that anyone else set
their system up exactly as I have mine, I assume they have the intelligence
to adjust what I have done to fit their own needs."
Very good sentence, since I'll give you complete opposite solution from
solution that I use if you are using disk based overlay.

1. You can keep disk overlay disabled by default, until you finish with
installations.
2. Then in registry change FBAWasHere to zero.
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\WindowsEmbedded\FBA\4293918
722]
"FBAWasHere"=dword:00000000
If number 4293918722 changes search for ConfigureEwf so you will find reg
entry.
3. Copy image to other device.
4. Start fba.exe.

This should use FBA to restart EWF partition creation process.
Probably all this could be replaced by calling dll function ConfigureEwf,
but this is not an issue.

So most likely this can be done, I have not tried this, but it should work.

I prefer RAM EWF, you probably have good reason why you want to use Disk
EWF. So you have choices, better more than one instead of none.

Just to mention that all of this can be avoided if you componentized
everything that you will use.

Best regards,
Slobodan

In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, Slobodan Brcin
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> Hi Doug,
>
> > I know that people say that RAM-based EWF still works with no EWF
> partition
> > but there are caveats. I like to disable, enable, and commit whenever I
> > want, and my deployment process allows this.
>
> Only command that does not work is disable, but instead you could use
> commitanddisable it is similar to disable but it will also commit current
> changes.
> So if you don't need to disable protection and then reset device then
> commitanddisable will do the job.
>
Thing is that in my application - and I assume I'm not unique in this -
committing is something which we very definitely don't want. Not only
does committing result in unwanted data written permanently to the
drive, but it causes problems for some applications which are started
automatically. If the image is committed, the working state of these
applications is saved, which in some cases means they cannot restart on
a reboot.

Hi Heidi

Thank you for this Tip.
It help me a little bit.
Is it possible that you send me a example of this batch
File witch with you set the Settings after the clone
Prozess!

mfg
Dietmar
>-----Original Message-----
>This is what I do, though it may not be suitable for what
>you want.
>I run the first part of FBA on a hard drive, and then
copy
>these files off onto our network.
>I then copy this onto however many CF cards I need it on.
>When they are booted, they reseal themselves, reboot,
then
>on first booting as finished systems, a RUN key launches
a
>batch file which deals with all the configuration the
>boxes require, including enabling the EWF and then
removes
>itself from the registry before rebooting. You then have
a
>collection of unique, configured boxes which you didn't
>need to do anything to. You can set them up to have, say,
>unique IP addresses, simply by changing the batch file on
>each one - or you can leave them all the same.
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>Hey
>>
>>I look for a Solution to clone a XP embedded Image with
>>EWF enabled!1:1 Copy from the Harddisk!
>>
>>My Steps are:
>>
>>- I build a Runtime Image with the Target designer
>>- I copy the Files to the Target System
>>- I start my Target System at FBA start
>>- I wait until the Messagebox "Maschine resealed!Click
OK
>>to reboot" and then I clone my Image with Northon Ghost!
>>- Now I can clone this Image on every Target System with
>>the same Hardware!
>>- But I must install all my other Software after this
>>Process
>>- What I want is a Image with my hole Installation that
I
>>can clone on ever Target System and the Image shoud be
>so
>>small as possible I mean without the EWF Partition
>because
>>Ghost can´t compressing the EWF Partition and after the
>>cloning I have no access to the EWF Partition!
>>I checked and the EWF partition is there. When I
>>run "ewfmgr c:" I still
>>get: Failed getting protected volume configuration
>with
>>error 1.
>>
>>
>>
>>Is it posible to build the EWF partition after I install
>>my other Software because if I make a Image of my hole
>>Harddisk with EWF Partition is enabled it is very large
>>and it doesn t work!
>>
>>mfg
>>Dietmar
>>
>>.
>>
>.
>

Thank you Slobodan

This is a Solution that should solve my Problem!

mfg
dietmar
>-----Original Message-----
>I must admit that I don't understand what you are trying
to accomplish with
>all steps you mentioned. You design could be good or bad
I don't know, and I
>wont talk you out of it.
>
>> Is it posible to build the EWF partition after I install
>> my other Software because if I make a Image of my hole
>> Harddisk with EWF Partition is enabled it is very large
>> and it doesn t work!
>
>Like Heidi said to me: "I was not in any way suggesting
that anyone else set
>their system up exactly as I have mine, I assume they
have the intelligence
>to adjust what I have done to fit their own needs."
>Very good sentence, since I'll give you complete opposite
solution from
>solution that I use if you are using disk based overlay.
>
>1. You can keep disk overlay disabled by default, until
you finish with
>installations.
>2. Then in registry change FBAWasHere to zero.
>[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001
\Control\WindowsEmbedded\FBA\4293918
>722]
>"FBAWasHere"=dword:00000000
>If number 4293918722 changes search for ConfigureEwf so
you will find reg
>entry.
>3. Copy image to other device.
>4. Start fba.exe.
>
>This should use FBA to restart EWF partition creation
process.
>Probably all this could be replaced by calling dll
function ConfigureEwf,
>but this is not an issue.
>
>So most likely this can be done, I have not tried this,
but it should work.
>
>I prefer RAM EWF, you probably have good reason why you
want to use Disk
>EWF. So you have choices, better more than one instead of
none.
>
>Just to mention that all of this can be avoided if you
componentized
>everything that you will use.
>
>Best regards,
>Slobodan
>
>
>.
>

Well ours is pretty specific to what we're doing, but if
you tell me what you want to do - the email is valid - I
can send you a custom one. Ours relies on a couple of
custom components, which you may or may not need.
>-----Original Message-----
>Hi Heidi
>
>Thank you for this Tip.
>It help me a little bit.
>Is it possible that you send me a example of this batch
>File witch with you set the Settings after the clone
>Prozess!
>
>mfg
>Dietmar
>>-----Original Message-----
>>This is what I do, though it may not be suitable for
what
>>you want.
>>I run the first part of FBA on a hard drive, and then
>copy
>>these files off onto our network.
>>I then copy this onto however many CF cards I need it
on.
>>When they are booted, they reseal themselves, reboot,
>then
>>on first booting as finished systems, a RUN key launches
>a
>>batch file which deals with all the configuration the
>>boxes require, including enabling the EWF and then
>removes
>>itself from the registry before rebooting. You then have
>a
>>collection of unique, configured boxes which you didn't
>>need to do anything to. You can set them up to have,
say,
>>unique IP addresses, simply by changing the batch file
on
>>each one - or you can leave them all the same.
>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>Hey
>>>
>>>I look for a Solution to clone a XP embedded Image with
>>>EWF enabled!1:1 Copy from the Harddisk!
>>>
>>>My Steps are:
>>>
>>>- I build a Runtime Image with the Target designer
>>>- I copy the Files to the Target System
>>>- I start my Target System at FBA start
>>>- I wait until the Messagebox "Maschine resealed!Click
>OK
>>>to reboot" and then I clone my Image with Northon Ghost!
>>>- Now I can clone this Image on every Target System
with
>>>the same Hardware!
>>>- But I must install all my other Software after this
>>>Process
>>>- What I want is a Image with my hole Installation that
>I
>>>can clone on ever Target System and the Image shoud be
>>so
>>>small as possible I mean without the EWF Partition
>>because
>>>Ghost can´t compressing the EWF Partition and after the
>>>cloning I have no access to the EWF Partition!
>>>I checked and the EWF partition is there. When I
>>>run "ewfmgr c:" I still
>>>get: Failed getting protected volume configuration
>>with
>>>error 1.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Is it posible to build the EWF partition after I
install
>>>my other Software because if I make a Image of my hole
>>>Harddisk with EWF Partition is enabled it is very large
>>>and it doesn t work!
>>>
>>>mfg
>>>Dietmar
>>>
>>>.
>>>
>>.
>>
>.
>

You can try this also on target machine, but i don't know
if it will work.

rundll32 ewfdll.dll,ConfigureEwf

Slobodan

>-----Original Message-----
>Thank you Slobodan
>
>This is a Solution that should solve my Problem!
>
>mfg
>dietmar
>>-----Original Message-----
>>I must admit that I don't understand what you are
trying
>to accomplish with
>>all steps you mentioned. You design could be good or
bad
>I don't know, and I
>>wont talk you out of it.
>>
>>> Is it posible to build the EWF partition after I
install
>>> my other Software because if I make a Image of my hole
>>> Harddisk with EWF Partition is enabled it is very
large
>>> and it doesn t work!
>>
>>Like Heidi said to me: "I was not in any way suggesting
>that anyone else set
>>their system up exactly as I have mine, I assume they
>have the intelligence
>>to adjust what I have done to fit their own needs."
>>Very good sentence, since I'll give you complete
opposite
>solution from
>>solution that I use if you are using disk based overlay.
>>
>>1. You can keep disk overlay disabled by default, until
>you finish with
>>installations.
>>2. Then in registry change FBAWasHere to zero.
>>[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001
>\Control\WindowsEmbedded\FBA\4293918
>>722]
>>"FBAWasHere"=dword:00000000
>>If number 4293918722 changes search for ConfigureEwf so
>you will find reg
>>entry.
>>3. Copy image to other device.
>>4. Start fba.exe.
>>
>>This should use FBA to restart EWF partition creation
>process.
>>Probably all this could be replaced by calling dll
>function ConfigureEwf,
>>but this is not an issue.
>>
>>So most likely this can be done, I have not tried this,
>but it should work.
>>
>>I prefer RAM EWF, you probably have good reason why you
>want to use Disk
>>EWF. So you have choices, better more than one instead
of
>none.
>>
>>Just to mention that all of this can be avoided if you
>componentized
>>everything that you will use.
>>
>>Best regards,
>>Slobodan
>>
>>
>>.
>>
>.
>