When I proudly described to a knowledgeable friend how I had used Ghost
2003 to clone a hard drive and make the new HD the bootable Windows XP
drive, he said I should have used a different method. He said the OS
becomes fragmented over time and defrag doesn't repair it because defrag
doesn't deal with system files. He said I shouldn't have cloned this
already fragmented OS. He said I should have copied some file (I don't
remember which) > Go into the BIOS and make the new HD bootable in DOS >
Then clean install Windows XP on the new HD > Then copy what I wanted.

Apparently he was saying I didn't need a copy program at all. The whole
thing could be accomplished with DOS commands.

Is he right? And how exactly should this process be accomplished? I'm
not doing anything right now, but I'd like to know for next time.


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* Nehmo Sergheyev *
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Nehmo Sergheyev wrote:
> When I proudly described to a knowledgeable friend how I had used
> Ghost 2003 to clone a hard drive and make the new HD the bootable
> Windows XP drive, he said I should have used a different method. He
> said the OS becomes fragmented over time and defrag doesn't repair it
> because defrag doesn't deal with system files. He said I shouldn't
> have cloned this already fragmented OS. He said I should have copied
> some file (I don't remember which) > Go into the BIOS and make the
> new HD bootable in DOS > Then clean install Windows XP on the new HD
> > Then copy what I wanted.
>
> Apparently he was saying I didn't need a copy program at all. The
> whole thing could be accomplished with DOS commands.
>
> Is he right? And how exactly should this process be accomplished? I'm
> not doing anything right now, but I'd like to know for next time.


Is your friends name Jonathon?
http://marbella.to/humour/dec00/malename.htm

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Everyone blames the Jews for killing Jesus. They are wrong;
It was the french!

Nehmo Sergheyev <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:HTi9c.1884$z%(E-Mail Removed)...

> When I proudly described to a knowledgeable friend
> how I had used Ghost 2003 to clone a hard drive
> and make the new HD the bootable Windows XP
> drive, he said I should have used a different method.

He's wrong.

> He said the OS becomes fragmented over time

Bullshit.

> and defrag doesn't repair it because
> defrag doesn't deal with system files.

More bullshit. The most you can really claim is that SOME system
files can get fragged and arent defragged by what XP uses.

And the MUCH more important point is that I bet he cant actually
pick which system has become fragged like that in a proper double
blind trial without using a defragger with modern hard drives.

> He said I shouldn't have cloned this already fragmented OS.

He's got his head completely up his bum on that.
AND whether the clone is as fragged as the original
depends on what is used to do the cloning too.

> He said I should have copied some file (I don't remember which)
> Go into the BIOS and make the new HD bootable in DOS
> Then clean install Windows XP on the new HD
> Then copy what I wanted.

He's got his head completely up his bum on
that too. If you do want to do a clean install of
XP on the new drive, that aint the way to do it.

> Apparently he was saying I didn't need a copy program at all.
> The whole thing could be accomplished with DOS commands.

Bullshit.

> Is he right?

Nope.

> And how exactly should this process be accomplished?

Dont bother, its completely silly. Just use a cloner that
gets rid of frags as it clones if you're that obsessive.

And Ghost qualifys anyway.

> I'm not doing anything right now,
> but I'd like to know for next time.

Just keep using Ghost. And you can prove that question
of whether the clone is as fragged as the original by
using one of the defraggers that displays the frag status.

LAUGHING OUT LOUD!!!!!!!

> Everyone blames the Jews for killing Jesus. They are wrong;
> It was the French!

Say to you friend:
"Prove it, on YOUR system"

I would like to know since when are system files unmovable?

Certain files are not movable, not sure which ones.
I am pretty sure that the virtual memory cache isn't movable,
which I have observed after I had moved that to another drive

one thing to consider also, how did the system files files
fragment if they are not movable?

The only thing a fresh install buys you is emilinating possible problems
caused by spyware, trojans, bad uninstalls, etc.


"Nehmo Sergheyev" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:HTi9c.1884$z%(E-Mail Removed)...
> When I proudly described to a knowledgeable friend how I had used Ghost
> 2003 to clone a hard drive and make the new HD the bootable Windows XP
> drive, he said I should have used a different method. He said the OS
> becomes fragmented over time and defrag doesn't repair it because defrag
> doesn't deal with system files. He said I shouldn't have cloned this
> already fragmented OS. He said I should have copied some file (I don't
> remember which) > Go into the BIOS and make the new HD bootable in DOS >
> Then clean install Windows XP on the new HD > Then copy what I wanted.
>
> Apparently he was saying I didn't need a copy program at all. The whole
> thing could be accomplished with DOS commands.
>
> Is he right? And how exactly should this process be accomplished? I'm
> not doing anything right now, but I'd like to know for next time.
>
>
> --
> *********************
> * Nehmo Sergheyev *
> *********************
>
>

You defragmented your drive with Ghost, it is a low-level file copy program.

Your friend is looney if he thinks DOS can copy long filenames.

"Nehmo Sergheyev" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:HTi9c.1884$z%(E-Mail Removed)...
> When I proudly described to a knowledgeable friend how I had used Ghost
> 2003 to clone a hard drive and make the new HD the bootable Windows XP
> drive, he said I should have used a different method. He said the OS
> becomes fragmented over time and defrag doesn't repair it because defrag
> doesn't deal with system files. He said I shouldn't have cloned this
> already fragmented OS. He said I should have copied some file (I don't
> remember which) > Go into the BIOS and make the new HD bootable in DOS >
> Then clean install Windows XP on the new HD > Then copy what I wanted.
>
> Apparently he was saying I didn't need a copy program at all. The whole
> thing could be accomplished with DOS commands.
>

relic wrote:
> Nehmo Sergheyev wrote:
>> When I proudly described to a knowledgeable friend how I had used
>> Ghost 2003 to clone a hard drive and make the new HD the bootable
>> Windows XP drive, he said I should have used a different method. He
>> said the OS becomes fragmented over time and defrag doesn't repair it
>> because defrag doesn't deal with system files. He said I shouldn't
>> have cloned this already fragmented OS. He said I should have copied
>> some file (I don't remember which) > Go into the BIOS and make the
>> new HD bootable in DOS > Then clean install Windows XP on the new HD
>>> Then copy what I wanted.
>>
>> Apparently he was saying I didn't need a copy program at all. The
>> whole thing could be accomplished with DOS commands.
>>
>> Is he right? And how exactly should this process be accomplished? I'm
>> not doing anything right now, but I'd like to know for next time.
>
>
> Is your friends name Jonathon?
> http://marbella.to/humour/dec00/malename.htm

rofl !!

Eric Gisin wrote:
>
> Your friend is looney

That was enough.

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Everyone blames the Jews for killing Jesus. They are wrong;
It was the french!

Eric Gisin wrote:
> You defragmented your drive with Ghost, it is a low-level file copy
> program.
>
> Your friend is looney if he thinks DOS can copy long filenames.

Is this the one?:
http://www.binarybroz.com/looney.jpg
<aside>
In most cases top-poasters are looney too.

>
> "Nehmo Sergheyev" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:HTi9c.1884$z%(E-Mail Removed)...
>> When I proudly described to a knowledgeable friend how I had used
>> Ghost 2003 to clone a hard drive and make the new HD the bootable
>> Windows XP drive, he said I should have used a different method. He
>> said the OS becomes fragmented over time and defrag doesn't repair
>> it because defrag doesn't deal with system files. He said I
>> shouldn't have cloned this already fragmented OS. He said I should
>> have copied some file (I don't remember which) > Go into the BIOS
>> and make the new HD bootable in DOS > Then clean install Windows XP
>> on the new HD > Then copy what I wanted.
>>
>> Apparently he was saying I didn't need a copy program at all. The
>> whole thing could be accomplished with DOS commands.

Dr. Bill <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:4065ea91$0$347$(E-Mail Removed)...
> Eric Gisin wrote

>> You defragmented your drive with Ghost,
>> it is a low-level file copy program.

>> Your friend is looney if he thinks DOS can copy long filenames.

> Is this the one?:
> http://www.binarybroz.com/looney.jpg
> <aside>
> In most cases top-poasters are looney too.

Nothing like as looney as those mindlessly
obsessing about how others post.


> > "Nehmo Sergheyev" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:HTi9c.1884$z%(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> When I proudly described to a knowledgeable friend how I had used
> >> Ghost 2003 to clone a hard drive and make the new HD the bootable
> >> Windows XP drive, he said I should have used a different method. He
> >> said the OS becomes fragmented over time and defrag doesn't repair
> >> it because defrag doesn't deal with system files. He said I
> >> shouldn't have cloned this already fragmented OS. He said I should
> >> have copied some file (I don't remember which) > Go into the BIOS
> >> and make the new HD bootable in DOS > Then clean install Windows XP
> >> on the new HD > Then copy what I wanted.
> >>
> >> Apparently he was saying I didn't need a copy program at all. The
> >> whole thing could be accomplished with DOS commands.
>
>