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Tripp Knightly
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      30th Apr 2004
Copy-Paste-Special lets you do some useful things in Excel.

But there's no quick & easy way to "clone" a cell and make an exact
duplicate of it. Often I do this either because a given cell is a
good starting point for a different calculation.

The workarounds work, but, like workarounds, they kinda stink. For
example, you can edit the formula, put a quote in front of it & turn
it into a string, then copy it to wherever you need it, and then
finally edit it (and the original) back to formula. Or, you can use
absolute references in the formula and then copy the formula. But
it's a pain to toggle all the references and toggle them back.

Am I missing something, or is there no easy way to clone a cell?
 
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Arvi Laanemets
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      30th Apr 2004
Hi

I often use copying from formula toolbar, then pressing Esc, and then
selecting the target cell and pasting into formula toolbar again.
Of-course when I want to copy cell format too, I have to do this separately
(using PasteSpecial).

--
Arvi Laanemets
(When sending e-mail, use address arvil<At>tarkon.ee)


"Tripp Knightly" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Copy-Paste-Special lets you do some useful things in Excel.
>
> But there's no quick & easy way to "clone" a cell and make an exact
> duplicate of it. Often I do this either because a given cell is a
> good starting point for a different calculation.
>
> The workarounds work, but, like workarounds, they kinda stink. For
> example, you can edit the formula, put a quote in front of it & turn
> it into a string, then copy it to wherever you need it, and then
> finally edit it (and the original) back to formula. Or, you can use
> absolute references in the formula and then copy the formula. But
> it's a pain to toggle all the references and toggle them back.
>
> Am I missing something, or is there no easy way to clone a cell?



 
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Tripp Knightly
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      30th Apr 2004
Yeah, that works too - no more or less kludgey than the other methods.

Another other reason I wish I could do this. Say I decide I want to
replace a cell w/ a new/improved cell & formula - if I just cut the
new one and paste, it'll error out all the cells dependent on the
destination cell. (This may be more of an issue w/ how cut/paste
works in excel rather than a lack of duplicate capability, but I
imagine ability to clone would fix this too.)

"Arvi Laanemets" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:<(E-Mail Removed)>...
> Hi
>
> I often use copying from formula toolbar, then pressing Esc, and then
> selecting the target cell and pasting into formula toolbar again.
> Of-course when I want to copy cell format too, I have to do this separately
> (using PasteSpecial).
>
> --
> Arvi Laanemets
> (When sending e-mail, use address arvil<At>tarkon.ee)
>
>
> "Tripp Knightly" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Copy-Paste-Special lets you do some useful things in Excel.
> >
> > But there's no quick & easy way to "clone" a cell and make an exact
> > duplicate of it. Often I do this either because a given cell is a
> > good starting point for a different calculation.
> >
> > The workarounds work, but, like workarounds, they kinda stink. For
> > example, you can edit the formula, put a quote in front of it & turn
> > it into a string, then copy it to wherever you need it, and then
> > finally edit it (and the original) back to formula. Or, you can use
> > absolute references in the formula and then copy the formula. But
> > it's a pain to toggle all the references and toggle them back.
> >
> > Am I missing something, or is there no easy way to clone a cell?

 
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Arvi Laanemets
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      30th Apr 2004
Hi

Maybe you give a couple of examples - some functions, and how do you want to
change them. This is a topic, where you can't have any general rules -
mostly every case must have it's own solution.

--
Arvi Laanemets
(Don't use my reply address - it's spam-trap)


"Tripp Knightly" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Yeah, that works too - no more or less kludgey than the other methods.
>
> Another other reason I wish I could do this. Say I decide I want to
> replace a cell w/ a new/improved cell & formula - if I just cut the
> new one and paste, it'll error out all the cells dependent on the
> destination cell. (This may be more of an issue w/ how cut/paste
> works in excel rather than a lack of duplicate capability, but I
> imagine ability to clone would fix this too.)
>
> "Arvi Laanemets" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message

news:<(E-Mail Removed)>...
> > Hi
> >
> > I often use copying from formula toolbar, then pressing Esc, and then
> > selecting the target cell and pasting into formula toolbar again.
> > Of-course when I want to copy cell format too, I have to do this

separately
> > (using PasteSpecial).
> >
> > --
> > Arvi Laanemets
> > (When sending e-mail, use address arvil<At>tarkon.ee)
> >
> >
> > "Tripp Knightly" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > Copy-Paste-Special lets you do some useful things in Excel.
> > >
> > > But there's no quick & easy way to "clone" a cell and make an exact
> > > duplicate of it. Often I do this either because a given cell is a
> > > good starting point for a different calculation.
> > >
> > > The workarounds work, but, like workarounds, they kinda stink. For
> > > example, you can edit the formula, put a quote in front of it & turn
> > > it into a string, then copy it to wherever you need it, and then
> > > finally edit it (and the original) back to formula. Or, you can use
> > > absolute references in the formula and then copy the formula. But
> > > it's a pain to toggle all the references and toggle them back.
> > >
> > > Am I missing something, or is there no easy way to clone a cell?



 
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Tripp Knightly
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      4th May 2004
Thanks. I can't really offer any specific examples, mainly because I
run into the problem on so many different occasions.

My guess is a *general* solution that offers any automation is going
to be 2 macros, one for "clone copy" and the other for "clone paste".
These macros would do pretty much what you described - copy the
contents of the formula to the clipboard from the edit box, and then
paste those contents into the edit box in your destination cell(s).
The more versatility you want with range operations, the more
complicated the macros get.

Paste-Special offers a whopping 14 different options (in Excel 97, who
knows how many in later versions). What a shame MS couldn't have
allowed an option called "replicate", "duplicate", "clone", "exact",
<insert other name here>.


"Arvi Laanemets" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:<(E-Mail Removed)>...
> Hi
>
> Maybe you give a couple of examples - some functions, and how do you want to
> change them. This is a topic, where you can't have any general rules -
> mostly every case must have it's own solution.
>
> --
> Arvi Laanemets
> (Don't use my reply address - it's spam-trap)
>
>
> "Tripp Knightly" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Yeah, that works too - no more or less kludgey than the other methods.
> >
> > Another other reason I wish I could do this. Say I decide I want to
> > replace a cell w/ a new/improved cell & formula - if I just cut the
> > new one and paste, it'll error out all the cells dependent on the
> > destination cell. (This may be more of an issue w/ how cut/paste
> > works in excel rather than a lack of duplicate capability, but I
> > imagine ability to clone would fix this too.)
> >
> > "Arvi Laanemets" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message

> news:<(E-Mail Removed)>...
> > > Hi
> > >
> > > I often use copying from formula toolbar, then pressing Esc, and then
> > > selecting the target cell and pasting into formula toolbar again.
> > > Of-course when I want to copy cell format too, I have to do this

> separately
> > > (using PasteSpecial).
> > >
> > > --
> > > Arvi Laanemets
> > > (When sending e-mail, use address arvil<At>tarkon.ee)
> > >
> > >
> > > "Tripp Knightly" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > > Copy-Paste-Special lets you do some useful things in Excel.
> > > >
> > > > But there's no quick & easy way to "clone" a cell and make an exact
> > > > duplicate of it. Often I do this either because a given cell is a
> > > > good starting point for a different calculation.
> > > >
> > > > The workarounds work, but, like workarounds, they kinda stink. For
> > > > example, you can edit the formula, put a quote in front of it & turn
> > > > it into a string, then copy it to wherever you need it, and then
> > > > finally edit it (and the original) back to formula. Or, you can use
> > > > absolute references in the formula and then copy the formula. But
> > > > it's a pain to toggle all the references and toggle them back.
> > > >
> > > > Am I missing something, or is there no easy way to clone a cell?

 
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Arvi Laanemets
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      4th May 2004
Hi

I asked because at least for 99% cases there is a way to modify the formula
in such a way, that by simple copy-and-paste it will adjust automatically.
You design a formula for a single cell, copy it to range, and you are done.
Copying the formula from toolbar I use, when I want a the same formula on
another worksheet, or I want nearly same formula (with some parameter
changed) for another range (and again - for a single cell only!). These are
really rare ocassions, and so I don't see any need for some macro to do it,
or some considerable gaining in time there.

--
Arvi Laanemets
(When sending e-mail, use address arvil<At>tarkon.ee)


"Tripp Knightly" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Thanks. I can't really offer any specific examples, mainly because I
> run into the problem on so many different occasions.
>
> My guess is a *general* solution that offers any automation is going
> to be 2 macros, one for "clone copy" and the other for "clone paste".
> These macros would do pretty much what you described - copy the
> contents of the formula to the clipboard from the edit box, and then
> paste those contents into the edit box in your destination cell(s).
> The more versatility you want with range operations, the more
> complicated the macros get.
>
> Paste-Special offers a whopping 14 different options (in Excel 97, who
> knows how many in later versions). What a shame MS couldn't have
> allowed an option called "replicate", "duplicate", "clone", "exact",
> <insert other name here>.
>
>
> "Arvi Laanemets" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message

news:<(E-Mail Removed)>...
> > Hi
> >
> > Maybe you give a couple of examples - some functions, and how do you

want to
> > change them. This is a topic, where you can't have any general rules -
> > mostly every case must have it's own solution.
> >
> > --
> > Arvi Laanemets
> > (Don't use my reply address - it's spam-trap)
> >
> >
> > "Tripp Knightly" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > Yeah, that works too - no more or less kludgey than the other methods.
> > >
> > > Another other reason I wish I could do this. Say I decide I want to
> > > replace a cell w/ a new/improved cell & formula - if I just cut the
> > > new one and paste, it'll error out all the cells dependent on the
> > > destination cell. (This may be more of an issue w/ how cut/paste
> > > works in excel rather than a lack of duplicate capability, but I
> > > imagine ability to clone would fix this too.)
> > >
> > > "Arvi Laanemets" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message

> > news:<(E-Mail Removed)>...
> > > > Hi
> > > >
> > > > I often use copying from formula toolbar, then pressing Esc, and

then
> > > > selecting the target cell and pasting into formula toolbar again.
> > > > Of-course when I want to copy cell format too, I have to do this

> > separately
> > > > (using PasteSpecial).
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Arvi Laanemets
> > > > (When sending e-mail, use address arvil<At>tarkon.ee)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Tripp Knightly" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > > > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > > > Copy-Paste-Special lets you do some useful things in Excel.
> > > > >
> > > > > But there's no quick & easy way to "clone" a cell and make an

exact
> > > > > duplicate of it. Often I do this either because a given cell is a
> > > > > good starting point for a different calculation.
> > > > >
> > > > > The workarounds work, but, like workarounds, they kinda stink.

For
> > > > > example, you can edit the formula, put a quote in front of it &

turn
> > > > > it into a string, then copy it to wherever you need it, and then
> > > > > finally edit it (and the original) back to formula. Or, you can

use
> > > > > absolute references in the formula and then copy the formula. But
> > > > > it's a pain to toggle all the references and toggle them back.
> > > > >
> > > > > Am I missing something, or is there no easy way to clone a cell?



 
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David McRitchie
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      4th May 2004
Hi Tripp,
Assuming that you know about absolute and mixed
references ($A$1, $A1, A$1).

If you want to copy a formula exactly as it is as if
you copied it from the formulabar check out the
*entire* thread:
Chip Pearson via Drew Paterson -- 2001-04-13 misc
http://google.com/groups?threadm=uiq...%40tkmsftngp05
---
HTH,
David McRitchie, Microsoft MVP - Excel [site changed Nov. 2001]
My Excel Pages: http://www.mvps.org/dmcritchie/excel/excel.htm
Search Page: http://www.mvps.org/dmcritchie/excel/search.htm

"Arvi Laanemets" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Hi
>
> I asked because at least for 99% cases there is a way to modify the formula
> in such a way, that by simple copy-and-paste it will adjust automatically.
> You design a formula for a single cell, copy it to range, and you are done.
> Copying the formula from toolbar I use, when I want a the same formula on
> another worksheet, or I want nearly same formula (with some parameter
> changed) for another range (and again - for a single cell only!). These are
> really rare ocassions, and so I don't see any need for some macro to do it,
> or some considerable gaining in time there.
>
> --
> Arvi Laanemets
> (When sending e-mail, use address arvil<At>tarkon.ee)
>
>
> "Tripp Knightly" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Thanks. I can't really offer any specific examples, mainly because I
> > run into the problem on so many different occasions.
> >
> > My guess is a *general* solution that offers any automation is going
> > to be 2 macros, one for "clone copy" and the other for "clone paste".
> > These macros would do pretty much what you described - copy the
> > contents of the formula to the clipboard from the edit box, and then
> > paste those contents into the edit box in your destination cell(s).
> > The more versatility you want with range operations, the more
> > complicated the macros get.
> >
> > Paste-Special offers a whopping 14 different options (in Excel 97, who
> > knows how many in later versions). What a shame MS couldn't have
> > allowed an option called "replicate", "duplicate", "clone", "exact",
> > <insert other name here>.
> >
> >
> > "Arvi Laanemets" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message

> news:<(E-Mail Removed)>...
> > > Hi
> > >
> > > Maybe you give a couple of examples - some functions, and how do you

> want to
> > > change them. This is a topic, where you can't have any general rules -
> > > mostly every case must have it's own solution.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Arvi Laanemets
> > > (Don't use my reply address - it's spam-trap)
> > >
> > >
> > > "Tripp Knightly" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > > Yeah, that works too - no more or less kludgey than the other methods.
> > > >
> > > > Another other reason I wish I could do this. Say I decide I want to
> > > > replace a cell w/ a new/improved cell & formula - if I just cut the
> > > > new one and paste, it'll error out all the cells dependent on the
> > > > destination cell. (This may be more of an issue w/ how cut/paste
> > > > works in excel rather than a lack of duplicate capability, but I
> > > > imagine ability to clone would fix this too.)
> > > >
> > > > "Arvi Laanemets" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > > news:<(E-Mail Removed)>...
> > > > > Hi
> > > > >
> > > > > I often use copying from formula toolbar, then pressing Esc, and

> then
> > > > > selecting the target cell and pasting into formula toolbar again.
> > > > > Of-course when I want to copy cell format too, I have to do this
> > > separately
> > > > > (using PasteSpecial).
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Arvi Laanemets
> > > > > (When sending e-mail, use address arvil<At>tarkon.ee)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "Tripp Knightly" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > > > > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > > > > Copy-Paste-Special lets you do some useful things in Excel.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > But there's no quick & easy way to "clone" a cell and make an

> exact
> > > > > > duplicate of it. Often I do this either because a given cell is a
> > > > > > good starting point for a different calculation.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The workarounds work, but, like workarounds, they kinda stink.

> For
> > > > > > example, you can edit the formula, put a quote in front of it &

> turn
> > > > > > it into a string, then copy it to wherever you need it, and then
> > > > > > finally edit it (and the original) back to formula. Or, you can

> use
> > > > > > absolute references in the formula and then copy the formula. But
> > > > > > it's a pain to toggle all the references and toggle them back.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Am I missing something, or is there no easy way to clone a cell?

>
>



 
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Tripp Knightly
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      13th May 2004
Yes am up to speed on abs / relative choice in formulae.

Your extension to right click to enable duplication is *awesome*... thanks.

"David McRitchie" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:<#(E-Mail Removed)>...
> Hi Tripp,
> Assuming that you know about absolute and mixed
> references ($A$1, $A1, A$1).
>
> If you want to copy a formula exactly as it is as if
> you copied it from the formulabar check out the
> *entire* thread:
> Chip Pearson via Drew Paterson -- 2001-04-13 misc
> http://google.com/groups?threadm=uiq...%40tkmsftngp05
> ---
> HTH,
> David McRitchie, Microsoft MVP - Excel [site changed Nov. 2001]
> My Excel Pages: http://www.mvps.org/dmcritchie/excel/excel.htm
> Search Page: http://www.mvps.org/dmcritchie/excel/search.htm
>
> "Arvi Laanemets" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Hi
> >
> > I asked because at least for 99% cases there is a way to modify the formula
> > in such a way, that by simple copy-and-paste it will adjust automatically.
> > You design a formula for a single cell, copy it to range, and you are done.
> > Copying the formula from toolbar I use, when I want a the same formula on
> > another worksheet, or I want nearly same formula (with some parameter
> > changed) for another range (and again - for a single cell only!). These are
> > really rare ocassions, and so I don't see any need for some macro to do it,
> > or some considerable gaining in time there.
> >
> > --
> > Arvi Laanemets
> > (When sending e-mail, use address arvil<At>tarkon.ee)
> >
> >
> > "Tripp Knightly" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > Thanks. I can't really offer any specific examples, mainly because I
> > > run into the problem on so many different occasions.
> > >
> > > My guess is a *general* solution that offers any automation is going
> > > to be 2 macros, one for "clone copy" and the other for "clone paste".
> > > These macros would do pretty much what you described - copy the
> > > contents of the formula to the clipboard from the edit box, and then
> > > paste those contents into the edit box in your destination cell(s).
> > > The more versatility you want with range operations, the more
> > > complicated the macros get.
> > >
> > > Paste-Special offers a whopping 14 different options (in Excel 97, who
> > > knows how many in later versions). What a shame MS couldn't have
> > > allowed an option called "replicate", "duplicate", "clone", "exact",
> > > <insert other name here>.
> > >
> > >
> > > "Arvi Laanemets" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message

> news:<(E-Mail Removed)>...
> > > > Hi
> > > >
> > > > Maybe you give a couple of examples - some functions, and how do you

> want to
> > > > change them. This is a topic, where you can't have any general rules -
> > > > mostly every case must have it's own solution.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Arvi Laanemets
> > > > (Don't use my reply address - it's spam-trap)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Tripp Knightly" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > > > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > > > Yeah, that works too - no more or less kludgey than the other methods.
> > > > >
> > > > > Another other reason I wish I could do this. Say I decide I want to
> > > > > replace a cell w/ a new/improved cell & formula - if I just cut the
> > > > > new one and paste, it'll error out all the cells dependent on the
> > > > > destination cell. (This may be more of an issue w/ how cut/paste
> > > > > works in excel rather than a lack of duplicate capability, but I
> > > > > imagine ability to clone would fix this too.)
> > > > >
> > > > > "Arvi Laanemets" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message

> news:<(E-Mail Removed)>...
> > > > > > Hi
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I often use copying from formula toolbar, then pressing Esc, and

> then
> > > > > > selecting the target cell and pasting into formula toolbar again.
> > > > > > Of-course when I want to copy cell format too, I have to do this

> separately
> > > > > > (using PasteSpecial).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Arvi Laanemets
> > > > > > (When sending e-mail, use address arvil<At>tarkon.ee)
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Tripp Knightly" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > > > > > Copy-Paste-Special lets you do some useful things in Excel.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > But there's no quick & easy way to "clone" a cell and make an

> exact
> > > > > > > duplicate of it. Often I do this either because a given cell is a
> > > > > > > good starting point for a different calculation.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The workarounds work, but, like workarounds, they kinda stink.

> For
> > > > > > > example, you can edit the formula, put a quote in front of it &

> turn
> > > > > > > it into a string, then copy it to wherever you need it, and then
> > > > > > > finally edit it (and the original) back to formula. Or, you can

> use
> > > > > > > absolute references in the formula and then copy the formula. But
> > > > > > > it's a pain to toggle all the references and toggle them back.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Am I missing something, or is there no easy way to clone a cell?

> >
> >

 
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