I don't give up easily.

I have seen a few web sites that are not Flash-Based and yet have Flash-like
interactivity.

Is there a way to do the following in FP2003 WITHOUT downloading scripts
from various script-providers?

There is a site that I saw where this kind of interactivity happens. I tried
to examine the code but then I'm over my head.
I don't want exactly his style but the kind of menu interactivity. The site
is http://www.studiosimon.net/ I'm not interested in the home page but the
following pages have the kind of interactivity that I want to happen.

Am I over my head...or is there a way to build this (or something like it)
strictly with FP2003???

Alex

That site is relying on JavaScripts to achieve the effects you're looking
at. I'm not very familiar with the behaviors capability in FP2003, but it's
possible that you might find some that do this.

The site has a heavy reliance on JavaScript being enabled, though. If you
view the pages with JS disabled, nothing works. For some designers, that's
not an issue. For others, it is. My rule of thumb is, if you lose a sale
because someone has images/javascript/flash/some-other-doohickey installed,
you should re-think your approach.

--
Jack Brewster
FrontPage MVP
www.maxgeek.com

"Smart-Alex" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:gzYad.29021$(E-Mail Removed)...
>I don't give up easily.
>
> I have seen a few web sites that are not Flash-Based and yet have
> Flash-like interactivity.
>
> Is there a way to do the following in FP2003 WITHOUT downloading scripts
> from various script-providers?
>
> There is a site that I saw where this kind of interactivity happens. I
> tried to examine the code but then I'm over my head.
> I don't want exactly his style but the kind of menu interactivity. The
> site is http://www.studiosimon.net/ I'm not interested in the home page
> but the following pages have the kind of interactivity that I want to
> happen.
>
> Am I over my head...or is there a way to build this (or something like it)
> strictly with FP2003???
>
> Alex
>
>

While what jack says is 100% correct you _can_ do most of this stuff with
FrontPage 2003 by using the layers, properties, and behaviors panes.

If you're lucky you won't have to touch any code but most likely you'll have
to do a little.

The amount of stuff you can with these new tools in FrontPage 2003 is fairly
broad, so it'll take some time to learn to use them to their fullest.

HTH

--
Chris Leeds,
Microsoft MVP-FrontPage

Make More Money with Less Work
Let Your Clients Control Their Content With Just A Browser!
http://contentseed.com/
--
"Smart-Alex" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:gzYad.29021$(E-Mail Removed)...
> I don't give up easily.
>
> I have seen a few web sites that are not Flash-Based and yet have
Flash-like
> interactivity.
>
> Is there a way to do the following in FP2003 WITHOUT downloading scripts
> from various script-providers?
>
> There is a site that I saw where this kind of interactivity happens. I
tried
> to examine the code but then I'm over my head.
> I don't want exactly his style but the kind of menu interactivity. The
site
> is http://www.studiosimon.net/ I'm not interested in the home page but
the
> following pages have the kind of interactivity that I want to happen.
>
> Am I over my head...or is there a way to build this (or something like it)
> strictly with FP2003???
>
> Alex
>
>

Hey...I qualified my post - "I'm not very familiar with the behaviors
capability in FP2003"



--
Jack Brewster
FrontPage MVP
www.maxgeek.com

"Chris Leeds, MVP-FrontPage" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> While what jack says is 100% correct you _can_ do most of this stuff with
> FrontPage 2003 by using the layers, properties, and behaviors panes.

I'm not saying, i'm _just_ saying...

--
Chris Leeds,
Microsoft MVP-FrontPage

Make More Money with Less Work
Let Your Clients Control Their Content With Just A Browser!
http://contentseed.com/
--
"Jack Brewster" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:u#(E-Mail Removed)...
> Hey...I qualified my post - "I'm not very familiar with the behaviors
> capability in FP2003"
>
>
>
> --
> Jack Brewster
> FrontPage MVP
> www.maxgeek.com
>
> "Chris Leeds, MVP-FrontPage" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> > While what jack says is 100% correct you _can_ do most of this stuff
with
> > FrontPage 2003 by using the layers, properties, and behaviors panes.
>
>

And all of those behaviors are still using javascript.

Nevertheless, the pages in question are doing something called a 'disjoint
rollover' or "click here, and it goes there". The technique is quite
simple. You would first make sure that all the images on your page are
named. Then, select your trigger, and apply a swap image behavior. When
you apply this behavior, you are given a list of all the images on the page.
By selecting one and then browsing to and selecting the new image that you
want to replace it, and then repeating that action, you can swap every image
on the page.

In this specific case, it's a bad idea, because ALL OF THE CONTENT ON THE
PAGE is image. There is nothing for search engines to use to rank the
relevance of the page. As a result, I'm guessing that this site struggles
for search engine ratings....

--
Murray

"Chris Leeds, MVP-FrontPage" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> I'm not saying, i'm _just_ saying...
>
> --
> Chris Leeds,
> Microsoft MVP-FrontPage
>
> Make More Money with Less Work
> Let Your Clients Control Their Content With Just A Browser!
> http://contentseed.com/
> --
> "Jack Brewster" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:u#(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Hey...I qualified my post - "I'm not very familiar with the behaviors
>> capability in FP2003"
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Jack Brewster
>> FrontPage MVP
>> www.maxgeek.com
>>
>> "Chris Leeds, MVP-FrontPage" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
>> > While what jack says is 100% correct you _can_ do most of this stuff
> with
>> > FrontPage 2003 by using the layers, properties, and behaviors panes.
>>
>>
>
>

OK Murray..I follow you so far BUT how do you get the image to show up the
other side of the page? In other words, I don't want the image that I am
using as a rollover button to change. (swap).I want it to cause an image to
show up somewhere to the right.

I don't worry much about ranking on the web. We get our business mostly
through networking. I don't think that I have EVER gotten a client as the
result of a search.

Alex


"Murray" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> And all of those behaviors are still using javascript.
>
> Nevertheless, the pages in question are doing something called a 'disjoint
> rollover' or "click here, and it goes there". The technique is quite
> simple. You would first make sure that all the images on your page are
> named. Then, select your trigger, and apply a swap image behavior. When
> you apply this behavior, you are given a list of all the images on the
> page. By selecting one and then browsing to and selecting the new image
> that you want to replace it, and then repeating that action, you can swap
> every image on the page.
>
> In this specific case, it's a bad idea, because ALL OF THE CONTENT ON THE
> PAGE is image. There is nothing for search engines to use to rank the
> relevance of the page. As a result, I'm guessing that this site struggles
> for search engine ratings....
>
> --
> Murray
>
> "Chris Leeds, MVP-FrontPage" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> I'm not saying, i'm _just_ saying...
>>
>> --
>> Chris Leeds,
>> Microsoft MVP-FrontPage
>>
>> Make More Money with Less Work
>> Let Your Clients Control Their Content With Just A Browser!
>> http://contentseed.com/
>> --
>> "Jack Brewster" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:u#(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> Hey...I qualified my post - "I'm not very familiar with the behaviors
>>> capability in FP2003"
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jack Brewster
>>> FrontPage MVP
>>> www.maxgeek.com
>>>
>>> "Chris Leeds, MVP-FrontPage" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>> news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> > While what jack says is 100% correct you _can_ do most of this stuff
>> with
>>> > FrontPage 2003 by using the layers, properties, and behaviors panes.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

You have named all your images. When you apply the behavior you see all the
image names listed. Select image "a" and browse to and select the rollover
for image "a", then select image "b" and browse to and select the rollover
for image "b", and so on.

> I don't think that I have EVER gotten a client as the result of a search.

Well, I could say that with your approach, I can guarantee you haven't! 8)

--
Murray

"Smart-Alex" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:g6_ad.29602$(E-Mail Removed)...
> OK Murray..I follow you so far BUT how do you get the image to show up the
> other side of the page? In other words, I don't want the image that I am
> using as a rollover button to change. (swap).I want it to cause an image
> to show up somewhere to the right.
>
> I don't worry much about ranking on the web. We get our business mostly
> through networking. I don't think that I have EVER gotten a client as the
> result of a search.
>
> Alex
>
>
> "Murray" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> And all of those behaviors are still using javascript.
>>
>> Nevertheless, the pages in question are doing something called a
>> 'disjoint rollover' or "click here, and it goes there". The technique is
>> quite simple. You would first make sure that all the images on your page
>> are named. Then, select your trigger, and apply a swap image behavior.
>> When you apply this behavior, you are given a list of all the images on
>> the page. By selecting one and then browsing to and selecting the new
>> image that you want to replace it, and then repeating that action, you
>> can swap every image on the page.
>>
>> In this specific case, it's a bad idea, because ALL OF THE CONTENT ON THE
>> PAGE is image. There is nothing for search engines to use to rank the
>> relevance of the page. As a result, I'm guessing that this site
>> struggles for search engine ratings....
>>
>> --
>> Murray
>>
>> "Chris Leeds, MVP-FrontPage" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> I'm not saying, i'm _just_ saying...
>>>
>>> --
>>> Chris Leeds,
>>> Microsoft MVP-FrontPage
>>>
>>> Make More Money with Less Work
>>> Let Your Clients Control Their Content With Just A Browser!
>>> http://contentseed.com/
>>> --
>>> "Jack Brewster" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>> news:u#(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>> Hey...I qualified my post - "I'm not very familiar with the behaviors
>>>> capability in FP2003"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Jack Brewster
>>>> FrontPage MVP
>>>> www.maxgeek.com
>>>>
>>>> "Chris Leeds, MVP-FrontPage" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>>> news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>> > While what jack says is 100% correct you _can_ do most of this stuff
>>> with
>>>> > FrontPage 2003 by using the layers, properties, and behaviors panes.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

YES!

If you have FrontPage 2003 it is not easy but can be done..
Look at this sample and see if that fits your needs...
http://www.coldwavesnowwear.com/page.../snocross.html
The links on the bottom left are just text links but.. A roll over with the
mouse brings up a picture of the item. How did they do that?

A simplistic page can be found here...
http://www.xmas-i-am.com/layer2.htm

No real tricks just the use of "Layers" and "Behaviors"..

HTH

Don
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"Smart-Alex" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:gzYad.29021$(E-Mail Removed)...
|I don't give up easily.
|
| I have seen a few web sites that are not Flash-Based and yet have
Flash-like
| interactivity.
|
| Is there a way to do the following in FP2003 WITHOUT downloading scripts
| from various script-providers?
|
| There is a site that I saw where this kind of interactivity happens. I
tried
| to examine the code but then I'm over my head.
| I don't want exactly his style but the kind of menu interactivity. The
site
| is http://www.studiosimon.net/ I'm not interested in the home page but
the
| following pages have the kind of interactivity that I want to happen.
|
| Am I over my head...or is there a way to build this (or something like it)
| strictly with FP2003???
|
| Alex
|
|

Yes. Just visit,
http://www.thetoolthatdoesitallsoido...utanything.com
website and you too can be a star.

PS - I get the feeling you would be over your head using the <p> tag.
PPS - You can build anything with FP2003. The problem is, you might actually
have to use the keyboard, and look at the dreaded HTML view.

Bob Lehmann

"Smart-Alex" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:gzYad.29021$(E-Mail Removed)...
> I don't give up easily.
>
> I have seen a few web sites that are not Flash-Based and yet have
Flash-like
> interactivity.
>
> Is there a way to do the following in FP2003 WITHOUT downloading scripts
> from various script-providers?
>
> There is a site that I saw where this kind of interactivity happens. I
tried
> to examine the code but then I'm over my head.
> I don't want exactly his style but the kind of menu interactivity. The
site
> is http://www.studiosimon.net/ I'm not interested in the home page but
the
> following pages have the kind of interactivity that I want to happen.
>
> Am I over my head...or is there a way to build this (or something like it)
> strictly with FP2003???
>
> Alex
>
>