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dave xnet
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      6th Mar 2007
Hello,
did a repair install as I updated the motherboard/processor
from VIA chipset kt133a to a Nvidia chipset Biostar M9 geforce6100.

Everything is working. However, in device manager I see items
like VIAIDE and VIAAGP BUS FILTER in
show hidden devices/non plug and play drivers and they are active. Why
are these being used? There is no longer a VIA motherboard present.

Not a biggie, just curious.


Dave
 
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Brian A.
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      6th Mar 2007
Sounds like leftovers.
Have you tried disabling them and then clicking the scan for new hardware in DM?
You could aslo try disabling them and rebooting to see if they're redetected.

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"dave xnet" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Hello,
> did a repair install as I updated the motherboard/processor
> from VIA chipset kt133a to a Nvidia chipset Biostar M9 geforce6100.
>
> Everything is working. However, in device manager I see items
> like VIAIDE and VIAAGP BUS FILTER in
> show hidden devices/non plug and play drivers and they are active. Why
> are these being used? There is no longer a VIA motherboard present.
>
> Not a biggie, just curious.
>
>
> Dave


 
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dave xnet
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      6th Mar 2007
On Tue, 6 Mar 2007 14:27:58 -0600, "Brian A."
<gonefish'n@afarawaylake> wrote:

> Sounds like leftovers.
>Have you tried disabling them and then clicking the scan for new hardware in DM?
>You could aslo try disabling them and rebooting to see if they're redetected.

Thanks for the info.
I set a restore point, then uninstalled those devices using the device
manager. Upon reboot they were not detected.

Makes me wonder what other dead stuff is left.

Dave
 
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      6th Mar 2007

"dave xnet" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 6 Mar 2007 14:27:58 -0600, "Brian A."
> <gonefish'n@afarawaylake> wrote:
>
>> Sounds like leftovers.
>>Have you tried disabling them and then clicking the scan for new hardware in DM?
>>You could aslo try disabling them and rebooting to see if they're redetected.

> Thanks for the info.
> I set a restore point, then uninstalled those devices using the device
> manager. Upon reboot they were not detected.
>
> Makes me wonder what other dead stuff is left.
>
> Dave


Try several different methods to search out what you may should not around anymore.
Before uninstalling/removing/deleting anything anywhere, make it known 100% to
yourself that what you are about to remove is not needed.
Uninstalling/deleting/removing anything, especially registry entries, can/do/will
make your machine a quick expensive doorstop if that item is needed/used.

Use Start > Search > Files/Folders to check the drive(s) for known names you think
should not be present.
Check using System Information: Start > Run, type in: msinfo32 and press Enter
Check the registry for known names you think should not be present.


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dave xnet
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      7th Mar 2007
On Tue, 6 Mar 2007 16:19:27 -0600, "Brian A."
<gonefish'n@afarawaylake> wrote:

>
>"dave xnet" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> On Tue, 6 Mar 2007 14:27:58 -0600, "Brian A."
>> <gonefish'n@afarawaylake> wrote:
>>
>>> Sounds like leftovers.
>>>Have you tried disabling them and then clicking the scan for new hardware in DM?
>>>You could aslo try disabling them and rebooting to see if they're redetected.

>> Thanks for the info.
>> I set a restore point, then uninstalled those devices using the device
>> manager. Upon reboot they were not detected.
>>
>> Makes me wonder what other dead stuff is left.
>>
>> Dave

>
> Try several different methods to search out what you may should not around anymore.
>Before uninstalling/removing/deleting anything anywhere, make it known 100% to
>yourself that what you are about to remove is not needed.
>Uninstalling/deleting/removing anything, especially registry entries, can/do/will
>make your machine a quick expensive doorstop if that item is needed/used.
>
>Use Start > Search > Files/Folders to check the drive(s) for known names you think
>should not be present.
>Check using System Information: Start > Run, type in: msinfo32 and press Enter
>Check the registry for known names you think should not be present.


I wont do anything rash, I'm quite cautious and I always set a restore
point. I found 30 - 40 ATI*.sys and .dll modules in \system32 and
\system32\drivers. Once again, not doing any harm except wastng
space, left over from the graphics card I was using before I did the
repair. An attempt to delete these files invoked Winows file
protection. I solved it by taking advantage of my dual
boot system, and deleted c:\ ATI files while booted up to F:\
and vice-versa.
Nor do things things like theunwanted VIA IDE filter driver
have much effect.
Been running with it for months, no difference now that it's gone.

I had the ATI Control Panel in add/remove programs,
also superfluous at this point. Unfortunately the uninstall failed.
Still got installshleld items related to it. Will leave it for now.
I know that with MSI you can use MSICUU, not sure if there is an
equivalent for installshiedl. Couldn't find anything.

I noticed on the propery/details of the non-plug and play items,
on the first tab you can set device usage:
enable/disable, or on the second tab you can also set
startup type : disabled. Does it matter which one you set?
Seems to serve the same purpose.

Shouldn't complain really. The repair, although it's somewhat quick
and dirty, generally works. The debris that's left, I've found,
doesn't really interfere, it's just mainly wasted space.
Cheers,
Dave

 
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      8th Mar 2007

"dave xnet" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 6 Mar 2007 16:19:27 -0600, "Brian A."
> <gonefish'n@afarawaylake> wrote:
>
>>
>>"dave xnet" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> On Tue, 6 Mar 2007 14:27:58 -0600, "Brian A."
>>> <gonefish'n@afarawaylake> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sounds like leftovers.
>>>>Have you tried disabling them and then clicking the scan for new hardware in DM?
>>>>You could aslo try disabling them and rebooting to see if they're redetected.
>>> Thanks for the info.
>>> I set a restore point, then uninstalled those devices using the device
>>> manager. Upon reboot they were not detected.
>>>
>>> Makes me wonder what other dead stuff is left.
>>>
>>> Dave

>>
>> Try several different methods to search out what you may should not around
>> anymore.
>>Before uninstalling/removing/deleting anything anywhere, make it known 100% to
>>yourself that what you are about to remove is not needed.
>>Uninstalling/deleting/removing anything, especially registry entries, can/do/will
>>make your machine a quick expensive doorstop if that item is needed/used.
>>
>>Use Start > Search > Files/Folders to check the drive(s) for known names you think
>>should not be present.
>>Check using System Information: Start > Run, type in: msinfo32 and press Enter
>>Check the registry for known names you think should not be present.

>
> I wont do anything rash, I'm quite cautious and I always set a restore
> point.


You seem to be competent enough in what to or not to do, however I always add in
the warning. Sometimes we all forget to take measures at one point or another.
I myself do not trust Restore in the least, I always create an image before taking
any questionable or drastic measures.

I found 30 - 40 ATI*.sys and .dll modules in \system32 and
> \system32\drivers. Once again, not doing any harm except wastng
> space, left over from the graphics card I was using before I did the
> repair. An attempt to delete these files invoked Winows file
> protection. I solved it by taking advantage of my dual
> boot system, and deleted c:\ ATI files while booted up to F:\
> and vice-versa.
> Nor do things things like theunwanted VIA IDE filter driver
> have much effect.
> Been running with it for months, no difference now that it's gone.
>
> I had the ATI Control Panel in add/remove programs,
> also superfluous at this point. Unfortunately the uninstall failed.
> Still got installshleld items related to it. Will leave it for now.
> I know that with MSI you can use MSICUU, not sure if there is an
> equivalent for installshiedl. Couldn't find anything.


I always take a look at what the MS Cleanup Utility has listed, so far only once
has an app been listed that I removed with it. You could try one of the Registry
apps to take a good look and clean up. The ones I use are:
Registrar Lite
Registry Commander -- Not for those without good knowledge of the registry
Easy Cleaner
CCleaner

Another app you may want to look into is Total Uninstall, you run it while doing an
install and it keeps a record of all the install paths. Later on you can run TU to
uninstall the app.

>
> I noticed on the propery/details of the non-plug and play items,
> on the first tab you can set device usage:
> enable/disable, or on the second tab you can also set
> startup type : disabled. Does it matter which one you set?
> Seems to serve the same purpose.


I don't follow where you're looking at these here, is it the file or DM?

>
> Shouldn't complain really. The repair, although it's somewhat quick
> and dirty, generally works. The debris that's left, I've found,
> doesn't really interfere, it's just mainly wasted space.
> Cheers,
> Dave




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http://basconotw.mvps.org/

Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375



 
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dave xnet
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      8th Mar 2007
On Wed, 7 Mar 2007 20:38:58 -0600, "Brian A."
<gonefish'n@afarawaylake> wrote:

>> I noticed on the propery/details of the non-plug and play items,
>> on the first tab you can set device usage:
>> enable/disable, or on the second tab you can also set
>> startup type : disabled. Does it matter which one you set?
>> Seems to serve the same purpose.

>
> I don't follow where you're looking at these here, is it the file or DM?

Hi Brian, I'm talking about right clicking on the
non-plug and play driver in device manager and the options to
set are on the first and second tabs.
On the first tab you can set enabled or disabled,
but on the second tab there's a whole bunch of choices,
such as Boot, System, disabled, etc.

I used the second tab, because of some distant memory of having
a problem when I chose disabled from the first tab.
The item disappeared completely and I it took me a while to
figure out how to get it back!

Dave
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