Is there anyone who cleans up the extra code that FP inserts into a web page
for a resonable fee?

Thanks,
Marie

On Sep 16, 8:54 am, Marie <Ma...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> Is there anyone who cleans up the extra code that FP inserts into a web page
> for a resonable fee?
>
> Thanks,
> Marie

It's probably better to do what I am doing. Rewrite the web page in
strict html. The learning curve for html is about the same as
FrontPage and you also end up with clean code. There is also the
additional arguement that you get away from an obsolete and somewhat
poor program.

www.richardfisher.com (not yet rewritten)

What extra code are you talking about?

--
==============================================
Thomas A. Rowe
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage

http://www.Ecom-Data.com
==============================================


"Marie" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:1E902F0A-22F3-4C59-9774-(E-Mail Removed)...
> Is there anyone who cleans up the extra code that FP inserts into a web page
> for a resonable fee?
>
> Thanks,
> Marie

I'm not sure Mr. Rowe, I have just had a lot of people tell me that FrontPage
inserts lot of unnecessary code that causes it to be hard for the search
engine spiders and robots to crawl the page. I am just wanting to get my site
more search engine friendly.


"Thomas A. Rowe" wrote:

> What extra code are you talking about?
>
> --
> ==============================================
> Thomas A. Rowe
> Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
>
> http://www.Ecom-Data.com
> ==============================================
>
>
> "Marie" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:1E902F0A-22F3-4C59-9774-(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Is there anyone who cleans up the extra code that FP inserts into a web page
> > for a resonable fee?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Marie
>
>
>

The code FP inserts is pretty straightforward. The issues come when you use
certain features that would make it difficult simply because of the nature
of the items. For example, Hover Buttons are horrible because they are Java
Applets and not the same as a simple hyperlink. Avoiding the drawing toolbar
is also a good idea because it uses VML (Vector Markup Language) which works
in IE and may cause some odd bloat to the page that a search engine doesn't
pickup. Basically though, there isn't much that FP can insert that won't be
picked up by the search engines. If you have a specific example or a URL we
can take a look at, we can give some recommendations on whether or not
anything is needed to improve the friendliness of it.


--
Hope this helps,
Mark Fitzpatrick
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage

"Marie" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:A9FB7171-9F3F-4B50-AFA8-(E-Mail Removed)...
> I'm not sure Mr. Rowe, I have just had a lot of people tell me that
> FrontPage
> inserts lot of unnecessary code that causes it to be hard for the search
> engine spiders and robots to crawl the page. I am just wanting to get my
> site
> more search engine friendly.
>
>
> "Thomas A. Rowe" wrote:
>
>> What extra code are you talking about?
>>
>> --
>> ==============================================
>> Thomas A. Rowe
>> Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
>>
>> http://www.Ecom-Data.com
>> ==============================================
>>
>>
>> "Marie" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:1E902F0A-22F3-4C59-9774-(E-Mail Removed)...
>> > Is there anyone who cleans up the extra code that FP inserts into a web
>> > page
>> > for a resonable fee?
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Marie
>>
>>
>>

Thanks, Mr. Fitzpatrick, for your reply. No, I don't use anything like Kover
buttons or anything out of the oridinary. I don't know enough about FrontPage
to do more than the basics. That is the reason I was thrilled to find this
site.

The only issue that I have had is that my site doesn't show up correctly in
Foxfire, or Firefox (can't remember what it is called..senior moment).

The site is www.tiskettaskets.com

Thanks and have a great Sunday.

Marie

"Mark Fitzpatrick" wrote:

> The code FP inserts is pretty straightforward. The issues come when you use
> certain features that would make it difficult simply because of the nature
> of the items. For example, Hover Buttons are horrible because they are Java
> Applets and not the same as a simple hyperlink. Avoiding the drawing toolbar
> is also a good idea because it uses VML (Vector Markup Language) which works
> in IE and may cause some odd bloat to the page that a search engine doesn't
> pickup. Basically though, there isn't much that FP can insert that won't be
> picked up by the search engines. If you have a specific example or a URL we
> can take a look at, we can give some recommendations on whether or not
> anything is needed to improve the friendliness of it.
>
>
> --
> Hope this helps,
> Mark Fitzpatrick
> Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
>
> "Marie" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:A9FB7171-9F3F-4B50-AFA8-(E-Mail Removed)...
> > I'm not sure Mr. Rowe, I have just had a lot of people tell me that
> > FrontPage
> > inserts lot of unnecessary code that causes it to be hard for the search
> > engine spiders and robots to crawl the page. I am just wanting to get my
> > site
> > more search engine friendly.
> >
> >
> > "Thomas A. Rowe" wrote:
> >
> >> What extra code are you talking about?
> >>
> >> --
> >> ==============================================
> >> Thomas A. Rowe
> >> Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
> >>
> >> http://www.Ecom-Data.com
> >> ==============================================
> >>
> >>
> >> "Marie" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> >> news:1E902F0A-22F3-4C59-9774-(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> > Is there anyone who cleans up the extra code that FP inserts into a web
> >> > page
> >> > for a resonable fee?
> >> >
> >> > Thanks,
> >> > Marie
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>

FP2000 and FP2002 insert extra code into the table tag, but none of it
will have any effect on search engines.
FP2003 allows the use of VML graphics. This adds huge amounts of code
to the page which cannot be rendered by FireFox and other non-IE
browsers - but again will have no effect on search engines.

--
Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.

http://www.rxs-enterprises.org/fp

FrontPage Support: http://www.frontpagemvps.com/




"Marie" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:A9FB7171-9F3F-4B50-AFA8-(E-Mail Removed):

> I'm not sure Mr. Rowe, I have just had a lot of people tell me that FrontPage
> inserts lot of unnecessary code that causes it to be hard for the search
> engine spiders and robots to crawl the page. I am just wanting to get my site
> more search engine friendly.
>
>
> "Thomas A. Rowe" wrote:
>
> > What extra code are you talking about?
> >
> > --
> > ==============================================
> > Thomas A. Rowe
> > Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
> >
> > http://www.Ecom-Data.com
> > ==============================================
> >
> >
> > "Marie" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:1E902F0A-22F3-4C59-9774-(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > Is there anyone who cleans up the extra code that FP inserts into a web page
> > > for a resonable fee?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Marie
> >
> >
> >

Thank you all so much for your responses. I suppose that I have been getting
some bad information. I was told that my site had a lot of extra code that FP
automatically inserts when you do not code by hand, and that it was hard for
the spiders to find their way through it. :-)

My site is www.tiskettaskets.com and I use FP 2002.


"Ronx" wrote:

> FP2000 and FP2002 insert extra code into the table tag, but none of it
> will have any effect on search engines.
> FP2003 allows the use of VML graphics. This adds huge amounts of code
> to the page which cannot be rendered by FireFox and other non-IE
> browsers - but again will have no effect on search engines.
>
> --
> Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
> Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
>
> http://www.rxs-enterprises.org/fp
>
> FrontPage Support: http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
>
>
>
>
> "Marie" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:A9FB7171-9F3F-4B50-AFA8-(E-Mail Removed):
>
> > I'm not sure Mr. Rowe, I have just had a lot of people tell me that FrontPage
> > inserts lot of unnecessary code that causes it to be hard for the search
> > engine spiders and robots to crawl the page. I am just wanting to get my site
> > more search engine friendly.
> >
> >
> > "Thomas A. Rowe" wrote:
> >
> > > What extra code are you talking about?
> > >
> > > --
> > > ==============================================
> > > Thomas A. Rowe
> > > Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
> > >
> > > http://www.Ecom-Data.com
> > > ==============================================
> > >
> > >
> > > "Marie" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > > news:1E902F0A-22F3-4C59-9774-(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > > Is there anyone who cleans up the extra code that FP inserts into a web page
> > > > for a resonable fee?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Marie
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
>

I took a look at your home page and the source code.
I didn't see anything wrong that would affect search engines.

The problem with firefox is that your height and width "units" are
not specified.
They are just <td width="740" height="114">
and need to be <td width="740px" height="114px">

Also image heights and widths are not specified correctly.
<img border="0" src="images/spacer.gif" width="150" height="10">
should be:
<img border="0" src="images/spacer.gif" width="150px" height="10px">

Also:
<body background="images/Background.jpg" topmargin="0" leftmargin="0" rightmargin="0" bottommargin="0">
needs to be
<body background="images/Background.jpg" margin-top="0" margin-left="0" margin-right="0" margin-bottom="0">

That "should" fix the problems in Firefox.

However, you really should learn to use css to apply the styles for the page.
But the above should help.

--

Steve Easton
Microsoft MVP FrontPage
FP Cleaner
http://www.95isalive.com/fixes/fpclean.htm
Hit Me FP
http://www.95isalive.com/fixes/HitMeFP.htm


"Marie" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:B6FFFECD-6A39-4482-9628-(E-Mail Removed)...
> Thanks, Mr. Fitzpatrick, for your reply. No, I don't use anything like Kover
> buttons or anything out of the oridinary. I don't know enough about FrontPage
> to do more than the basics. That is the reason I was thrilled to find this
> site.
>
> The only issue that I have had is that my site doesn't show up correctly in
> Foxfire, or Firefox (can't remember what it is called..senior moment).
>
> The site is www.tiskettaskets.com
>
> Thanks and have a great Sunday.
>
> Marie
>
> "Mark Fitzpatrick" wrote:
>
>> The code FP inserts is pretty straightforward. The issues come when you use
>> certain features that would make it difficult simply because of the nature
>> of the items. For example, Hover Buttons are horrible because they are Java
>> Applets and not the same as a simple hyperlink. Avoiding the drawing toolbar
>> is also a good idea because it uses VML (Vector Markup Language) which works
>> in IE and may cause some odd bloat to the page that a search engine doesn't
>> pickup. Basically though, there isn't much that FP can insert that won't be
>> picked up by the search engines. If you have a specific example or a URL we
>> can take a look at, we can give some recommendations on whether or not
>> anything is needed to improve the friendliness of it.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Hope this helps,
>> Mark Fitzpatrick
>> Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
>>
>> "Marie" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:A9FB7171-9F3F-4B50-AFA8-(E-Mail Removed)...
>> > I'm not sure Mr. Rowe, I have just had a lot of people tell me that
>> > FrontPage
>> > inserts lot of unnecessary code that causes it to be hard for the search
>> > engine spiders and robots to crawl the page. I am just wanting to get my
>> > site
>> > more search engine friendly.
>> >
>> >
>> > "Thomas A. Rowe" wrote:
>> >
>> >> What extra code are you talking about?
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> ==============================================
>> >> Thomas A. Rowe
>> >> Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
>> >>
>> >> http://www.Ecom-Data.com
>> >> ==============================================
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Marie" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> >> news:1E902F0A-22F3-4C59-9774-(E-Mail Removed)...
>> >> > Is there anyone who cleans up the extra code that FP inserts into a web
>> >> > page
>> >> > for a resonable fee?
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks,
>> >> > Marie
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
>>

Steve,

For standard HTML table and images tags you do not need "px" when working with a fixed width, you
will need "%" if working with percentages.

--
==============================================
Thomas A. Rowe
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage

http://www.Ecom-Data.com
==============================================


"Steve Easton" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:%23a4jjlL%(E-Mail Removed)...
>I took a look at your home page and the source code.
> I didn't see anything wrong that would affect search engines.
>
> The problem with firefox is that your height and width "units" are
> not specified.
> They are just <td width="740" height="114">
> and need to be <td width="740px" height="114px">
>
> Also image heights and widths are not specified correctly.
> <img border="0" src="images/spacer.gif" width="150" height="10">
> should be:
> <img border="0" src="images/spacer.gif" width="150px" height="10px">
>
> Also:
> <body background="images/Background.jpg" topmargin="0" leftmargin="0" rightmargin="0"
> bottommargin="0">
> needs to be
> <body background="images/Background.jpg" margin-top="0" margin-left="0" margin-right="0"
> margin-bottom="0">
>
> That "should" fix the problems in Firefox.
>
> However, you really should learn to use css to apply the styles for the page.
> But the above should help.
>
> --
>
> Steve Easton
> Microsoft MVP FrontPage
> FP Cleaner
> http://www.95isalive.com/fixes/fpclean.htm
> Hit Me FP
> http://www.95isalive.com/fixes/HitMeFP.htm
>
>
> "Marie" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:B6FFFECD-6A39-4482-9628-(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Thanks, Mr. Fitzpatrick, for your reply. No, I don't use anything like Kover
>> buttons or anything out of the oridinary. I don't know enough about FrontPage
>> to do more than the basics. That is the reason I was thrilled to find this
>> site.
>>
>> The only issue that I have had is that my site doesn't show up correctly in
>> Foxfire, or Firefox (can't remember what it is called..senior moment).
>>
>> The site is www.tiskettaskets.com
>>
>> Thanks and have a great Sunday.
>>
>> Marie
>>
>> "Mark Fitzpatrick" wrote:
>>
>>> The code FP inserts is pretty straightforward. The issues come when you use
>>> certain features that would make it difficult simply because of the nature
>>> of the items. For example, Hover Buttons are horrible because they are Java
>>> Applets and not the same as a simple hyperlink. Avoiding the drawing toolbar
>>> is also a good idea because it uses VML (Vector Markup Language) which works
>>> in IE and may cause some odd bloat to the page that a search engine doesn't
>>> pickup. Basically though, there isn't much that FP can insert that won't be
>>> picked up by the search engines. If you have a specific example or a URL we
>>> can take a look at, we can give some recommendations on whether or not
>>> anything is needed to improve the friendliness of it.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Hope this helps,
>>> Mark Fitzpatrick
>>> Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
>>>
>>> "Marie" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>> news:A9FB7171-9F3F-4B50-AFA8-(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> > I'm not sure Mr. Rowe, I have just had a lot of people tell me that
>>> > FrontPage
>>> > inserts lot of unnecessary code that causes it to be hard for the search
>>> > engine spiders and robots to crawl the page. I am just wanting to get my
>>> > site
>>> > more search engine friendly.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > "Thomas A. Rowe" wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> What extra code are you talking about?
>>> >>
>>> >> --
>>> >> ==============================================
>>> >> Thomas A. Rowe
>>> >> Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
>>> >>
>>> >> http://www.Ecom-Data.com
>>> >> ==============================================
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> "Marie" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>> >> news:1E902F0A-22F3-4C59-9774-(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> >> > Is there anyone who cleans up the extra code that FP inserts into a web
>>> >> > page
>>> >> > for a resonable fee?
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Thanks,
>>> >> > Marie
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>