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Scott
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      2nd Mar 2005
Is there a program that would clean the registry? I do recall RegClean that
we used to use for 95 and 98 but what about Win2K ?


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      2nd Mar 2005
Hi Scott - My standard post about this.


In my experience all of these Reg cleaners, even the best, are fraught with
danger. I advise against using them except in one specific instance, that
is when you have one that is capable of doing specific Reg searches, and you
NEED (not just WANT) to remove the remaining traces of something that didn't
get uninstalled correctly. (and you didn't have foresight enough to install
it using Total Uninstall, http://www.martau.com/tu.html or direct dwnld
here: http://www.simtel.net/product.downlo...s.php?id=61416, in the
first place.) (As an aside, there are, however, some third party Registry
Editors which can be of great help with both the incorrect uninstall and
with certain malware problems, especially some of theCoolWebSearch types
such as the AppInit_DLLs variant of the about:blank version of CWS, for
example. I can recommend Registrar Lite, here:
http://www.resplendence.com/reglite .)

There are a couple of specific bugs that can cause abnormal growth in either
the System or Software hives; however, they are rare, and unless these hives
in %SystemRoot%\System32\config are very, very large (in the hundreds of
megabytes), then I would council you to leave your Registry alone except for
the special circumstances I mentioned above.

I and most other MVP's that I know believe that Registry modifications of
any type are probably best done manually, very carefully, with a thorough
knowledge of what's installed on your machine, and what you're doing, and
then only when necessary. There's very little (if any!) noticeable benefit
in either space saving or speed achievable by cleaning out the Registry
except in those few cases where there's a specific problem the client is
experiencing (usually uninstall or malware related in my experience) that
needs to be fixed.

Lastly, if you must screw around with your Registry, then at least get
Erunt/Erdnt, and run it before you do the Reg clean. You'll then have a
true restore available to you. Read below to see why you might not just
using the Reg cleaner's restore:

Get Erunt here for all NT-based computers including XP:
http://home.t-online.de/home/lars.he...runt/index.htm I've set it up to
take a scheduled backup each night at 12:01AM on a weekly round-robin basis,
and a Monthly on the 1st of each month. See here for how to set that up:
http://home.t-online.de/home/lars.he...runt/erunt.txt, and for some
useful information about this subject.

This program is one of the best things around - saved my butt on many
occasions, and will also run very nicely from a DOS prompt (in case you've
done something that won't let you boot any more and need to revert to a
previous Registry) IF you're FAT32 OR have a DOS startup disk with NTFS
write drivers in an NTFS system. (There is also a way using the Recovery
Console to get back to being "bootable" even without separate DOS write NTFS
drivers, after which you can do a "normal" Erdnt restore.) (BTW, it also
includes a Registry defragger program). Free, and very, very highly
recommended.

FYI, quoting from the above document:

"Note: The "Export registry" function in Regedit is USELESS (!) to make a
complete backup of the registry. Neither does it export the whole registry
(for example, no information from the "SECURITY" hive is saved), nor can the
exported file be used later to replace the current registry with the old
one. Instead, if you re-import the file, it is merged with the current
registry, leaving you with an absolute mess of old and new registry keys.

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Scott <(E-Mail Removed)> typed:
> Is there a program that would clean the registry? I do recall
> RegClean that we used to use for 95 and 98 but what about Win2K ?


 
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      3rd Mar 2005
Thanks for your reply.

"Jim Byrd" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Hi Scott - My standard post about this.
>
>
> In my experience all of these Reg cleaners, even the best, are fraught
> with
> danger. I advise against using them except in one specific instance, that
> is when you have one that is capable of doing specific Reg searches, and
> you
> NEED (not just WANT) to remove the remaining traces of something that
> didn't
> get uninstalled correctly. (and you didn't have foresight enough to
> install
> it using Total Uninstall, http://www.martau.com/tu.html or direct dwnld
> here: http://www.simtel.net/product.downlo...s.php?id=61416, in the
> first place.) (As an aside, there are, however, some third party Registry
> Editors which can be of great help with both the incorrect uninstall and
> with certain malware problems, especially some of theCoolWebSearch types
> such as the AppInit_DLLs variant of the about:blank version of CWS, for
> example. I can recommend Registrar Lite, here:
> http://www.resplendence.com/reglite .)
>
> There are a couple of specific bugs that can cause abnormal growth in
> either
> the System or Software hives; however, they are rare, and unless these
> hives
> in %SystemRoot%\System32\config are very, very large (in the hundreds of
> megabytes), then I would council you to leave your Registry alone except
> for
> the special circumstances I mentioned above.
>
> I and most other MVP's that I know believe that Registry modifications of
> any type are probably best done manually, very carefully, with a thorough
> knowledge of what's installed on your machine, and what you're doing, and
> then only when necessary. There's very little (if any!) noticeable
> benefit
> in either space saving or speed achievable by cleaning out the Registry
> except in those few cases where there's a specific problem the client is
> experiencing (usually uninstall or malware related in my experience) that
> needs to be fixed.
>
> Lastly, if you must screw around with your Registry, then at least get
> Erunt/Erdnt, and run it before you do the Reg clean. You'll then have a
> true restore available to you. Read below to see why you might not just
> using the Reg cleaner's restore:
>
> Get Erunt here for all NT-based computers including XP:
> http://home.t-online.de/home/lars.he...runt/index.htm I've set it up
> to
> take a scheduled backup each night at 12:01AM on a weekly round-robin
> basis,
> and a Monthly on the 1st of each month. See here for how to set that up:
> http://home.t-online.de/home/lars.he...runt/erunt.txt, and for some
> useful information about this subject.
>
> This program is one of the best things around - saved my butt on many
> occasions, and will also run very nicely from a DOS prompt (in case you've
> done something that won't let you boot any more and need to revert to a
> previous Registry) IF you're FAT32 OR have a DOS startup disk with NTFS
> write drivers in an NTFS system. (There is also a way using the Recovery
> Console to get back to being "bootable" even without separate DOS write
> NTFS
> drivers, after which you can do a "normal" Erdnt restore.) (BTW, it also
> includes a Registry defragger program). Free, and very, very highly
> recommended.
>
> FYI, quoting from the above document:
>
> "Note: The "Export registry" function in Regedit is USELESS (!) to make a
> complete backup of the registry. Neither does it export the whole registry
> (for example, no information from the "SECURITY" hive is saved), nor can
> the
> exported file be used later to replace the current registry with the old
> one. Instead, if you re-import the file, it is merged with the current
> registry, leaving you with an absolute mess of old and new registry keys.
>
> --
> Please respond in the same thread.
> Regards, Jim Byrd, MS-MVP
>
>
>
> In news:VKKdna-Pq6FYp7vfRVn-(E-Mail Removed),
> Scott <(E-Mail Removed)> typed:
>> Is there a program that would clean the registry? I do recall
>> RegClean that we used to use for 95 and 98 but what about Win2K ?

>



 
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