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Ray
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      26th Aug 2007
My machine sometimes boots very slow but after a while picks up to "normal".
I don't sweat it and find that with patience it returns to what I call
normal - 2904 in and 304 out. That's the best it's ever done and I am
satisfied with it. A friend told me that if I cleared all items in startup it
would speed the boot time. I don't like the sound of that. Is it a good
idea? Do you then have to go to Program Files to open a program?
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DL
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      26th Aug 2007
It might speed up the boot time but then you might lose functionality in
some apps, eg your anti virus app wont start niether will you firewall if
you use a third party solution
Examine the apps that show in your task bar, some you may decide you do not
need auto starting, usually the app will have an option to stop it auto
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"Ray" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> My machine sometimes boots very slow but after a while picks up to
> "normal". I don't sweat it and find that with patience it returns to what
> I call normal - 2904 in and 304 out. That's the best it's ever done and I
> am satisfied with it. A friend told me that if I cleared all items in
> startup it would speed the boot time. I don't like the sound of that. Is
> it a good idea? Do you then have to go to Program Files to open a
> program?
> --
> Ray
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Ron Badour
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      26th Aug 2007
Yes, it's a good idea as having programs running in the background for no
reason affects your PC's performance and the boot time. If you have
programs that are used during every computer session, continue to start
those at boot.

You either go to the start menu or the desktop and start only those programs
that are needed instead of starting a lot of them and then maybe not using
them.

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Ron Badour
MS MVP 1997 - 2007


"Ray" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> My machine sometimes boots very slow but after a while picks up to
> "normal". I don't sweat it and find that with patience it returns to what
> I call normal - 2904 in and 304 out. That's the best it's ever done and I
> am satisfied with it. A friend told me that if I cleared all items in
> startup it would speed the boot time. I don't like the sound of that. Is
> it a good idea? Do you then have to go to Program Files to open a
> program?
> --
> Ray
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>



 
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nesredep egrob
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      27th Aug 2007
On Sun, 26 Aug 2007 15:25:33 -0700, "Ray" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>My machine sometimes boots very slow but after a while picks up to "normal".
>I don't sweat it and find that with patience it returns to what I call
>normal - 2904 in and 304 out. That's the best it's ever done and I am
>satisfied with it. A friend told me that if I cleared all items in startup it
>would speed the boot time. I don't like the sound of that. Is it a good
>idea? Do you then have to go to Program Files to open a program?



You can use the startup program from http:\\www.mlin.net instead of msconfig and
that will suffice in most cases. It will give you an idea what is started and
what can be done wihtout

It is FOC

Borge in sunny Perth, Australia

 
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Ken Blake
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      27th Aug 2007
Ray wrote:

> My machine sometimes boots very slow but after a while picks up to
> "normal". I don't sweat it and find that with patience it returns to
> what I call normal - 2904 in and 304 out.



Are those download and upload speeds? Those are the speeds of your internet
connection, and have almost nothing to do with the speed of your computer.


> That's the best it's ever
> done and I am satisfied with it. A friend told me that if I cleared
> all items in startup it would speed the boot time. I don't like the
> sound of that. Is it a good idea?



No, it's a terrible idea. There *may* be some things that it would be to get
rid of, but getting of everything without first determining what it is and
what its value is is a prescription for trouble.

Here's my standard post on this subject:

My personal view is that the attention many people pay to how long it takes
to boot is unwarranted. Assuming that the computer's speed is otherwise
satisfactory, it may not be worth worrying about. Most people start their
computers once a day or even less frequently. In the overall scheme of
things, even a few minutes to start up isn't very important. Personally I
power on my computer when I get up in the morning, then go get my coffee.
When I come back, it's done booting. I don't know how long it took to boot
and I don't care.
However, if you want to address this anyway, it *may* be because of what
programs start automatically when you boot. On each program you don't want
to start automatically, check its Options to see if it has the choice not to
start. Many can easily and best be stopped that way. If that doesn't work,
run MSCONFIG from the Start | Run line, and on the Startup tab, uncheck the
programs you don't want to start automatically.

However, if I were you, I wouldn't do this just for the purpose of running
the minimum number of programs. Despite what many people tell you, you
should be concerned, not with how *many* of these programs you run, but
*which*. Some of them can hurt performance severely, but others have no
effect on performance.

Don't just stop programs from running willy-nilly. What you should do is
determine what each program is, what its value is to you, and what the cost
in performance is of its running all the time. You can get more information
about these with at http://castlecops.com/StartupList.html. If you can't
find it there, try google searches and ask about specifics here.

Once you have that information, you can make an intelligent informed
decision about what you want to keep and what you want to get rid of.

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Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
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      27th Aug 2007
"Ken Blake" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Ray wrote:
>
>> My machine sometimes boots very slow but after a while picks up to
>> "normal". I don't sweat it and find that with patience it returns to
>> what I call normal - 2904 in and 304 out.

>
> Are those download and upload speeds? Those are the speeds of your
> internet connection, and have almost nothing to do with the speed of
> your computer.


Agreed. OP needs to contact his ISP if the issue is connection speed.

Another idea:

http://www.dslreports.com/tools

But, Ray, you begin your paragraph by saying your PC "sometime boots
very slow" (which isn't necessarily a problem at all) but then shift to
mentioning download and upload rates (a very different issue). What is
the actual problem?

 
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Ray
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      27th Aug 2007
I guess my message is worded wrong and after reading the responses, what I
should have stated instead of saying boot time is the difference in speed when
I open different programs. Sometimes each one will pop right up and other
times I have to wait. Sooner or later it will change without anything I
have done and the same programs will load quickly.

I do as Ken Blake does - boot as soon as I wake up and leave it on until
bedtime.

If anyone thinks I don't know what the hell I'm talking about - you're right.

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"Daave" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> "Ken Blake" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>> Ray wrote:
>>
>>> My machine sometimes boots very slow but after a while picks up to
>>> "normal". I don't sweat it and find that with patience it returns to
>>> what I call normal - 2904 in and 304 out.

>>
>> Are those download and upload speeds? Those are the speeds of your internet
>> connection, and have almost nothing to do with the speed of your computer.

>
> Agreed. OP needs to contact his ISP if the issue is connection speed.
>
> Another idea:
>
> http://www.dslreports.com/tools



 
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Daave
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      28th Aug 2007
Ray wrote:
> I guess my message is worded wrong and after reading the responses,
> what I should have stated instead of saying boot time is the
> difference in speed when I open different programs. Sometimes each
> one will pop right up and other times I have to wait. Sooner or
> later it will change without anything I have done and the same
> programs will load quickly.


A good tool to see what is using resources and RAM is Process Explorer:

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sys...sExplorer.mspx

I wonder if your antivirus program is running a scan when you notice
slower responses.

Are you sure your system is free of malware? Have you performed regular
maintenance such as clearing out temp files and defragging?


 
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Ray
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      28th Aug 2007
Thanks, Daave. After all is said and done I think what applies is, "If it
ain't broke, don't fix it."

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"Daave" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Ray wrote:
>> I guess my message is worded wrong and after reading the responses,
>> what I should have stated instead of saying boot time is the
>> difference in speed when I open different programs. Sometimes each
>> one will pop right up and other times I have to wait. Sooner or
>> later it will change without anything I have done and the same
>> programs will load quickly.

>
> A good tool to see what is using resources and RAM is Process Explorer:
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sys...sExplorer.mspx
>
> I wonder if your antivirus program is running a scan when you notice
> slower responses.
>
> Are you sure your system is free of malware? Have you performed regular
> maintenance such as clearing out temp files and defragging?
>
>



 
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Vince
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      29th Aug 2007
Just one thought here. I wonder if what you are talking about is when you
start your computer and open a program it opens at one speed then when you
close the program and open it again without rebooting the computer it opens
the same program faster the next time.

If that is what you are talking about that is normal as some programs do not
fully unload until you reboot the computer therefore making the second,
third, etc opening of the program faster.


"Ray" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Thanks, Daave. After all is said and done I think what applies is, "If it
> ain't broke, don't fix it."
>
> --
> Ray
> __________
> "Daave" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>> Ray wrote:
>>> I guess my message is worded wrong and after reading the responses,
>>> what I should have stated instead of saying boot time is the
>>> difference in speed when I open different programs. Sometimes each
>>> one will pop right up and other times I have to wait. Sooner or
>>> later it will change without anything I have done and the same
>>> programs will load quickly.

>>
>> A good tool to see what is using resources and RAM is Process Explorer:
>>
>> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sys...sExplorer.mspx
>>
>> I wonder if your antivirus program is running a scan when you notice
>> slower responses.
>>
>> Are you sure your system is free of malware? Have you performed regular
>> maintenance such as clearing out temp files and defragging?
>>
>>

>
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