Would doing a clean install touch personal data on Windows? I am not
sure and have given out technical advice to others using the mac defs.
On a Mac a clean install would just create a new system folder but would
not touch personal documents. I told a user having problems to do a
clean install and not to backup her documents. Perhaps I gave you left
field advice.


John
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On 12/13/2010 12:43 PM, John wrote:
> Would doing a clean install touch personal data on Windows? I am not
> sure and have given out technical advice to others using the mac defs.
> On a Mac a clean install would just create a new system folder but would
> not touch personal documents. I told a user having problems to do a
> clean install and not to backup her documents. Perhaps I gave you left
> field advice.
>
>
> John

A clean install will delete *everything* you have on your computer right
now unless you have your data on a separate partition. In any even, back
up is a computer user's best friend and you should back up your
important data regularly as your hard drive will die some day. All your
programs will have to be reinstalled.

--
Alias

Oh, my God! You did what? In Windows a clean install wipes the slate
clean, personal documents and all. Nothing remains!

choro
*****

On 13/12/2010 11:43, John wrote:
> Would doing a clean install touch personal data on Windows? I am not
> sure and have given out technical advice to others using the mac defs.
> On a Mac a clean install would just create a new system folder but would
> not touch personal documents. I told a user having problems to do a
> clean install and not to backup her documents. Perhaps I gave you left
> field advice.
>
>
> John

On 12/13/2010 01:21 PM, choro wrote:
> Oh, my God! You did what? In Windows a clean install wipes the slate
> clean, personal documents and all. Nothing remains!
>
> choro

Not true. If XP and the programs are on the C partition and the data is
on the D partition, installing XP on the C partition will not wipe the D
partition clean. That said, backing up data is always the prudent thing
to do.

> *****
>
> On 13/12/2010 11:43, John wrote:
>> Would doing a clean install touch personal data on Windows? I am not
>> sure and have given out technical advice to others using the mac defs.
>> On a Mac a clean install would just create a new system folder but would
>> not touch personal documents. I told a user having problems to do a
>> clean install and not to backup her documents. Perhaps I gave you left
>> field advice.
>>
>>
>> John


--
Alias

On 13/12/2010 12:23, Alias wrote:
> On 12/13/2010 01:21 PM, choro wrote:
>> Oh, my God! You did what? In Windows a clean install wipes the slate
>> clean, personal documents and all. Nothing remains!
>>
>> choro
>
> Not true. If XP and the programs are on the C partition and the data is
> on the D partition, installing XP on the C partition will not wipe the D
> partition clean. That said, backing up data is always the prudent thing
> to do.

But of course! I would have thought that would be taken for granted! But
how many computer users configure their their computers to save user
documents either to a separate disk or partition.

And as far as backing up user files is concerned, it is NOT good enough
back up user files to another partition on the same disk but to a second
hard drive or a partition on a second hard disk. And better still also
save them to an external hard drive too.

Just think what would happen if user files are saved onto a different
partition on the same hard disk and the HD gives up the ghost! You've
lost everything then unless you can afford to have your stuff
professionally recovered from the failed HD's platter. And that would be
a very, very expensive operation indeed.
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choro
*****
>
>> *****
>>
>> On 13/12/2010 11:43, John wrote:
>>> Would doing a clean install touch personal data on Windows? I am not
>>> sure and have given out technical advice to others using the mac defs.
>>> On a Mac a clean install would just create a new system folder but would
>>> not touch personal documents. I told a user having problems to do a
>>> clean install and not to backup her documents. Perhaps I gave you left
>>> field advice.
>>>
>>>
>>> John
>
>

On 12/13/2010 01:35 PM, choro wrote:
> On 13/12/2010 12:23, Alias wrote:
>> On 12/13/2010 01:21 PM, choro wrote:
>>> Oh, my God! You did what? In Windows a clean install wipes the slate
>>> clean, personal documents and all. Nothing remains!
>>>
>>> choro
>>
>> Not true. If XP and the programs are on the C partition and the data is
>> on the D partition, installing XP on the C partition will not wipe the D
>> partition clean. That said, backing up data is always the prudent thing
>> to do.
>
> But of course! I would have thought that would be taken for granted! But
> how many computer users configure their their computers to save user
> documents either to a separate disk or partition.

Best is to have the data on a separate partition and back it up to
external media regularly.

>
> And as far as backing up user files is concerned, it is NOT good enough
> back up user files to another partition on the same disk but to a second
> hard drive or a partition on a second hard disk. And better still also
> save them to an external hard drive too.

I know.

>
> Just think what would happen if user files are saved onto a different
> partition on the same hard disk and the HD gives up the ghost! You've
> lost everything then unless you can afford to have your stuff
> professionally recovered from the failed HD's platter. And that would be
> a very, very expensive operation indeed.
> --
> choro
> *****

Note, I wrote in my first reply to the OP:

"In any event, back up is a computer user's best friend and you should
back up your important data regularly as your hard drive will die some day."
>>
>>> *****
>>>
>>> On 13/12/2010 11:43, John wrote:
>>>> Would doing a clean install touch personal data on Windows? I am not
>>>> sure and have given out technical advice to others using the mac defs.
>>>> On a Mac a clean install would just create a new system folder but
>>>> would
>>>> not touch personal documents. I told a user having problems to do a
>>>> clean install and not to backup her documents. Perhaps I gave you left
>>>> field advice.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> John
>>
>>


--
Alias

On Mon, 13 Dec 2010 12:35:39 +0000, choro <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> On 13/12/2010 12:23, Alias wrote:
> > On 12/13/2010 01:21 PM, choro wrote:
> >> Oh, my God! You did what? In Windows a clean install wipes the slate
> >> clean, personal documents and all. Nothing remains!
> >>
> >> choro
> >
> > Not true. If XP and the programs are on the C partition and the data is
> > on the D partition, installing XP on the C partition will not wipe the D
> > partition clean. That said, backing up data is always the prudent thing
> > to do.
>
> But of course! I would have thought that would be taken for granted!


Note that although your attribution was to Alias, *I* wrote the
paragraph above you quoted.

My view is that next to nothing on forums or newsgroups should be
taken for granted. Some people here know a lot, others know next to
nothing, so telling them the obvious things is often very valuable to
them.


> But
> how many computer users configure their their computers to save user
> documents either to a separate disk or partition.


Some, but as you suggest, most do not. Most do not have a separate
disk or partition.


> And as far as backing up user files is concerned, it is NOT good enough
> back up user files to another partition on the same disk but to a second
> hard drive or a partition on a second hard disk.


I am very much against backing up to a second internal drive because
it leaves you susceptible to simultaneous loss of the original and
backup to many of the most common dangers: severe power glitches,
nearby lightning strikes, virus attacks, user errors, even theft of
the computer.

However, in this case, if the backup is only meant to be kept for the
duration of the clean installation (which I do *not* recommend), it
would be OK.


> And better still also
> save them to an external hard drive too.


I completely agree, except for the word "also" in that sentence.



> Just think what would happen if user files are saved onto a different
> partition on the same hard disk and the HD gives up the ghost! You've
> lost everything then unless you can afford to have your stuff
> professionally recovered from the failed HD's platter. And that would be
> a very, very expensive operation indeed.


Yes. And also note that professional recovery may or may not work. It
is far from being always successful.

You might want to read my thoughts on backup in this article I've
written: http://www.computorcompanion.com/LPMArticle.asp?ID=314



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On 12/13/2010 07:19 PM, Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
> On Mon, 13 Dec 2010 12:35:39 +0000, choro<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>> On 13/12/2010 12:23, Alias wrote:
>>> On 12/13/2010 01:21 PM, choro wrote:
>>>> Oh, my God! You did what? In Windows a clean install wipes the slate
>>>> clean, personal documents and all. Nothing remains!
>>>>
>>>> choro
>>>
>>> Not true. If XP and the programs are on the C partition and the data is
>>> on the D partition, installing XP on the C partition will not wipe the D
>>> partition clean. That said, backing up data is always the prudent thing
>>> to do.
>>
>> But of course! I would have thought that would be taken for granted!
>
>
> Note that although your attribution was to Alias, *I* wrote the
> paragraph above you quoted.

NO, you didn't.

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John
Get a News 130 GB HDD if you have a 130 gb go bigger!
And Make Two partition's
First one partition for your XP, in NTFS format
The Sec. one 10Gb partition in Fat32 it for your Back up file!

Copy entire hard drives only those areas partitions on the destination
drive.
Remove the Old HDD and put it in the New HDD Box and put it away for safe
Keeping
Boot the new Hdd
backup her documents On D:>
And do a clean install OF that XP
is the right way of do it ........

"Alias" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> On 12/13/2010 07:19 PM, Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
>> On Mon, 13 Dec 2010 12:35:39 +0000, choro<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>

>>>> Not true. If XP and the programs are on the C partition and the data is
>>>> on the D partition, installing XP on the C partition will not wipe the D
>>>> partition clean. That said, backing up data is always the prudent thing
>>>> to do


> NO, you didn't.

Alias

LOL. It was Ken. You are far from using words like "prudent thing to do" He wrote
that before and yes, Ken wrote that paragraph and not for the first time either
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