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Fred Ma
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      2nd Jul 2004
I have googled-groups this problem. It seems to be a common problem.
I have TweakUI 1.33 installed on Windows 2000 Pro, SP4 (Inspiron 8000
laptop). When I uninstall, there is a message saying it seems to be
already uninstalled, and asked me whether I want to remove the entry
from the Add/Remove_Programs menu. Sometimes I say yes, other times I
say no (I have tried reinstalling and uninstalling many times). All
attempts are unsuccessful. After attempting to uninstall, there are
no TweakUI entries in
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run.
However, windows explorer still behaves as if TweakUI was present i.e.
window focus/activation still follows the mouse pointer. Note that at
no time does the TweakUI show up in the task manager (before or after
an install or an attempted uninstall). This is even after a reboot.

In my "best" attempted uninstall so far, I reinstalled TweakUI, used
SpyBot's "System Startup" tool to prevent its launching at system
startup, rebooted the computer, and then used Add/Remove_Program to
remove TweakUI. The result was the same, including the error message
saying that it was already uninstalled. Note that SpyBot's "System
Startup" tool seems more appropriate than msonfig because (rumour has
it that) msconfig wasn't really meant for Win2K. In fact, TweakUI
doesn't even show up in msconfig, but it does show up in SpyBot's
System Startup.

I have also tried removing TweakUI from a _desktop_, also running Win2K
Pro SP4. When I tried to do this as nonadministrator, I got the same
message (it was already uninstalled). When I tried it as
administrator, it did not give the message about TweakUI already being
uninstalled, so I thought it worked. However, the window focus still
follows the mouse pointer after rebooting. The lack of an error
message seems to get me a bit closer to a successful uninstall; since
this is related to the use of an administrator account, I suspect that
the uninstall problem is due at least in part to permissions set on
registry subtrees. On the laptop, however, I was already logged in as
administrator when I got the error message.

Some usenet postings suggested editing the program removal entry to
modify the behaviour of uninstall. I tried to explore the possibility
of doing this by pressing the Change/Remove button in the
Add/Remove_Program menu. I was hoping that it would let me change
something, or at least prompt for confirmation before removing. It
didn't; it immediately tried to remove the program, with the various
degrees of apparent "success" that I've described so far.

Thank you for any suggestions.

Fred
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Dept. of Electronics, Carleton University
Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
 
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Rick
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      2nd Jul 2004
TweakUI is simply a front-end to REGEDIT. Uninstalling TweakUI
will not magically restore your registry settings back to what they were
before it was installed. That's why it appears as though the program is
still installed, but in fact it's not.

You have three choices:

1. Reinstall Windows. This will set all registry settings back to default.

2. Reinstall TweakUI, set everything the way you want it, then uninstall
TweakUI.

3. Manually go through the registry and set each setting the way you
want it.

Rick

"Fred Ma" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> I have googled-groups this problem. It seems to be a common problem.
> I have TweakUI 1.33 installed on Windows 2000 Pro, SP4 (Inspiron 8000
> laptop). When I uninstall, there is a message saying it seems to be
> already uninstalled, and asked me whether I want to remove the entry
> from the Add/Remove_Programs menu. Sometimes I say yes, other times I
> say no (I have tried reinstalling and uninstalling many times). All
> attempts are unsuccessful. After attempting to uninstall, there are
> no TweakUI entries in
> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run.
> However, windows explorer still behaves as if TweakUI was present i.e.
> window focus/activation still follows the mouse pointer. Note that at
> no time does the TweakUI show up in the task manager (before or after
> an install or an attempted uninstall). This is even after a reboot.
>
> In my "best" attempted uninstall so far, I reinstalled TweakUI, used
> SpyBot's "System Startup" tool to prevent its launching at system
> startup, rebooted the computer, and then used Add/Remove_Program to
> remove TweakUI. The result was the same, including the error message
> saying that it was already uninstalled. Note that SpyBot's "System
> Startup" tool seems more appropriate than msonfig because (rumour has
> it that) msconfig wasn't really meant for Win2K. In fact, TweakUI
> doesn't even show up in msconfig, but it does show up in SpyBot's
> System Startup.
>
> I have also tried removing TweakUI from a _desktop_, also running Win2K
> Pro SP4. When I tried to do this as nonadministrator, I got the same
> message (it was already uninstalled). When I tried it as
> administrator, it did not give the message about TweakUI already being
> uninstalled, so I thought it worked. However, the window focus still
> follows the mouse pointer after rebooting. The lack of an error
> message seems to get me a bit closer to a successful uninstall; since
> this is related to the use of an administrator account, I suspect that
> the uninstall problem is due at least in part to permissions set on
> registry subtrees. On the laptop, however, I was already logged in as
> administrator when I got the error message.
>
> Some usenet postings suggested editing the program removal entry to
> modify the behaviour of uninstall. I tried to explore the possibility
> of doing this by pressing the Change/Remove button in the
> Add/Remove_Program menu. I was hoping that it would let me change
> something, or at least prompt for confirmation before removing. It
> didn't; it immediately tried to remove the program, with the various
> degrees of apparent "success" that I've described so far.
>
> Thank you for any suggestions.
>
> Fred
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> Fred Ma
> Dept. of Electronics, Carleton University
> Ottawa, Ontario, Canada



 
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Steven
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      2nd Jul 2004
Do a Google search for ToolBarCop.exe and you will be able
to easily remove it from your IE.

Steven

>-----Original Message-----
>I have googled-groups this problem. It seems to be a

common problem.
>I have TweakUI 1.33 installed on Windows 2000 Pro, SP4

(Inspiron 8000
>laptop). When I uninstall, there is a message saying it

seems to be
>already uninstalled, and asked me whether I want to

remove the entry
>from the Add/Remove_Programs menu. Sometimes I say yes,

other times I
>say no (I have tried reinstalling and uninstalling many

times). All
>attempts are unsuccessful. After attempting to

uninstall, there are
>no TweakUI entries in
>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersi

on\Run.
>However, windows explorer still behaves as if TweakUI was

present i.e.
>window focus/activation still follows the mouse pointer.

Note that at
>no time does the TweakUI show up in the task manager

(before or after
>an install or an attempted uninstall). This is even

after a reboot.
>
>In my "best" attempted uninstall so far, I reinstalled

TweakUI, used
>SpyBot's "System Startup" tool to prevent its launching

at system
>startup, rebooted the computer, and then used

Add/Remove_Program to
>remove TweakUI. The result was the same, including the

error message
>saying that it was already uninstalled. Note that

SpyBot's "System
>Startup" tool seems more appropriate than msonfig because

(rumour has
>it that) msconfig wasn't really meant for Win2K. In

fact, TweakUI
>doesn't even show up in msconfig, but it does show up in

SpyBot's
>System Startup.
>
>I have also tried removing TweakUI from a _desktop_, also

running Win2K
>Pro SP4. When I tried to do this as nonadministrator, I

got the same
>message (it was already uninstalled). When I tried it as
>administrator, it did not give the message about TweakUI

already being
>uninstalled, so I thought it worked. However, the window

focus still
>follows the mouse pointer after rebooting. The lack of

an error
>message seems to get me a bit closer to a successful

uninstall; since
>this is related to the use of an administrator account, I

suspect that
>the uninstall problem is due at least in part to

permissions set on
>registry subtrees. On the laptop, however, I was already

logged in as
>administrator when I got the error message.
>
>Some usenet postings suggested editing the program

removal entry to
>modify the behaviour of uninstall. I tried to explore

the possibility
>of doing this by pressing the Change/Remove button in the
>Add/Remove_Program menu. I was hoping that it would let

me change
>something, or at least prompt for confirmation before

removing. It
>didn't; it immediately tried to remove the program, with

the various
>degrees of apparent "success" that I've described so far.
>
>Thank you for any suggestions.
>
>Fred
>--
>Fred Ma
>Dept. of Electronics, Carleton University
>Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
>.
>

 
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Fred Ma
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      3rd Jul 2004
Rick wrote:
>
> TweakUI is simply a front-end to REGEDIT. Uninstalling TweakUI
> will not magically restore your registry settings back to what they were
> before it was installed. That's why it appears as though the program is
> still installed, but in fact it's not.


I did think of this as a possibility, but it just seemed to be quite a stretch
that Windows could have the window activation/focus follow the mouse pointer.
I thought it was a resident process that was doing that.

> You have three choices:
>
> 1. Reinstall Windows. This will set all registry settings back to default.


I'm not experienced enough to do this.

> 2. Reinstall TweakUI, set everything the way you want it, then uninstall
> TweakUI.


I've tried this. I guess it worked. The fact that the windows focus still
followed the mouse must be due to the registry changes. It is remarkable that
Windows has this capability, since the only time it seems available is with the
use of TweakUI.

> 3. Manually go through the registry and set each setting the way you
> want it.


I guess that won't be necessary, if TweakUI is really gone.

Thanks for the information.

Fred
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Fred Ma
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      3rd Jul 2004
Steven wrote:
>
> Do a Google search for ToolBarCop.exe and you will be able
> to easily remove it from your IE.
>
> Steven



I think there may be some confusion about what TweakUI is.
According to Rick, it is a convenient (and probably safe)
front end to modify the registry and bring about convenience
features for the Windows user interface (Windows explorer,
among others).

Fred
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      3rd Jul 2004
"Fred Ma" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Rick wrote:
> >
> > TweakUI is simply a front-end to REGEDIT. Uninstalling TweakUI
> > will not magically restore your registry settings back to what they were
> > before it was installed. That's why it appears as though the program is
> > still installed, but in fact it's not.

>
> I did think of this as a possibility, but it just seemed to be quite a stretch
> that Windows could have the window activation/focus follow the mouse pointer.
> I thought it was a resident process that was doing that.


In REGEDIT, look here for this option:

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\Mouse

Set "ActiveWindow Tracking" to 0 to disable it.

Rick


 
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      3rd Jul 2004
"Rick" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> "Fred Ma" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Rick wrote:
> > >
> > > TweakUI is simply a front-end to REGEDIT. Uninstalling TweakUI
> > > will not magically restore your registry settings back to what they were
> > > before it was installed. That's why it appears as though the program is
> > > still installed, but in fact it's not.

> >
> > I did think of this as a possibility, but it just seemed to be quite a stretch
> > that Windows could have the window activation/focus follow the mouse pointer.
> > I thought it was a resident process that was doing that.

>
> In REGEDIT, look here for this option:
>
> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\Mouse
>
> Set "ActiveWindow Tracking" to 0 to disable it.


Just meant to add, be sure to reboot after making this change.

Rick


 
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Rick wrote:
>
> > > >
> > > > TweakUI is simply a front-end to REGEDIT. Uninstalling TweakUI
> > > > will not magically restore your registry settings back to what they were
> > > > before it was installed. That's why it appears as though the program is
> > > > still installed, but in fact it's not.
> > >
> > > I did think of this as a possibility, but it just seemed to be quite a stretch
> > > that Windows could have the window activation/focus follow the mouse pointer.
> > > I thought it was a resident process that was doing that.

> >
> > In REGEDIT, look here for this option:
> >
> > HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\Mouse
> >
> > Set "ActiveWindow Tracking" to 0 to disable it.

>
> Just meant to add, be sure to reboot after making this change.



Actually, I was more concerned about making sure that there was no process
running in the background while installing drivers for HP's printer/scanner/
copier model 750. It took many days of contortions to get it installed, and
I was wondering if there was some process that was present, not showing up
in the taskbar, and interfering with the install/deinstall. It turns out
that Win2K's security must be irreversibly crippled to allow a proper
deinstall an reinstall. There are remaining incompatibilities, apparently
with NTFS, according to HP.

Fred
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George Hester
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      6th Jul 2004
The best way to make sure there are no running processes in the background is to go into Safe Mode.

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"Fred Ma" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Rick wrote:
> >
> > > > >
> > > > > TweakUI is simply a front-end to REGEDIT. Uninstalling TweakUI
> > > > > will not magically restore your registry settings back to what they were
> > > > > before it was installed. That's why it appears as though the program is
> > > > > still installed, but in fact it's not.
> > > >
> > > > I did think of this as a possibility, but it just seemed to be quite a stretch
> > > > that Windows could have the window activation/focus follow the mouse pointer.
> > > > I thought it was a resident process that was doing that.
> > >
> > > In REGEDIT, look here for this option:
> > >
> > > HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\Mouse
> > >
> > > Set "ActiveWindow Tracking" to 0 to disable it.

> >
> > Just meant to add, be sure to reboot after making this change.

>
>
> Actually, I was more concerned about making sure that there was no process
> running in the background while installing drivers for HP's printer/scanner/
> copier model 750. It took many days of contortions to get it installed, and
> I was wondering if there was some process that was present, not showing up
> in the taskbar, and interfering with the install/deinstall. It turns out
> that Win2K's security must be irreversibly crippled to allow a proper
> deinstall an reinstall. There are remaining incompatibilities, apparently
> with NTFS, according to HP.
>
> Fred
> --
> Fred Ma
> Dept. of Electronics, Carleton University
> Ottawa, Ontario, Canada

 
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George Hester
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      6th Jul 2004
TweakUI is not safe and I suggest you get rid of it. Lots of people here say it is just dandy. Not me. It is also NOT supported by Microsoft which means they officially don't like it either.

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"Fred Ma" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Steven wrote:
> >
> > Do a Google search for ToolBarCop.exe and you will be able
> > to easily remove it from your IE.
> >
> > Steven

>
>
> I think there may be some confusion about what TweakUI is.
> According to Rick, it is a convenient (and probably safe)
> front end to modify the registry and bring about convenience
> features for the Windows user interface (Windows explorer,
> among others).
>
> Fred
> --
> Fred Ma
> Dept. of Electronics, Carleton University
> Ottawa, Ontario, Canada

 
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