Every time I scan my disks (partitions) for errors, more of these types of
errors are found:

Cleaning up 928 unused index entries from index $SII of file 0x9.
Cleaning up 928 unused index entries from index $SDH of file 0x9.
Cleaning up 928 unused security descriptors.

This applies to all 4 of my partitions on one disk, plus 2 partitions on
another disk when it is connected.
CHKDSK may be fixing stuff, but the problems keep arising! What on earth is
going on?
What do these security descriptors do? Do they have anything to do with my
not using Simple File Sharing?

For those of you who haven't seen these messages before, these are generated
when scanning the partitions at boot time, and the logs are viewed with Event
Viewer under Application with the Source "Winlogon". (Event Viewer is found
by going to My Computer \ Manage \ Computer Management \ System Tools \ Event
Viewer.)


Also of interest in Event Viewer under System are entries with the Source
"disk".
In the last 10 days, I've seen:
The device, \Device\Harddisk3\D, has a bad block. 10 times and
The device, \Device\Harddisk4\D, has a bad block. 1 time.

This is really disconcerting. I have used various disk testing programs,
many running from boot floppy disks, and these haven't been able to fault the
hardware, only the NTFS File System.

I'm running Windows XP Professional with SP2, fully patched.
I've also tried running System File Checker (sfc /scannow) to try to ensure
that the operating system's files haven't become corrupted.


Gerry has already shown me that the problem isn't related to
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b/831374/en-us
because each of my partitions doesn't have more than 4,194,303 files, or a
master file table larger than 4 gigabytes (GB).

I hate not being able to trust nor fix my file system. I'm hoping I don't
need to trash the whole installation and start from scratch. I'm out of
ideas. Any help?

Right about now I'd be buying Symantec Ghost and a new hard drive or
two.

You *could* try replacing the ribbon cable/s to the drive/s to ensure
that isn't the problem first, however in my experience that is not
very likely.

-Martin

On 30 Jul, 15:42, Stephen <Step...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> Every time I scan my disks (partitions) for errors, more of these types of
> errors are found:
>
--- Snip ---

Martin

Unless I have been fed misinformation you may find Ghost is no longer
supported by Symantec!

--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Zoidberg wrote:
> Right about now I'd be buying Symantec Ghost and a new hard drive or
> two.
>
> You *could* try replacing the ribbon cable/s to the drive/s to ensure
> that isn't the problem first, however in my experience that is not
> very likely.
>
> -Martin
>
> On 30 Jul, 15:42, Stephen <Step...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>> Every time I scan my disks (partitions) for errors, more of these
>> types of errors are found:
>>
> --- Snip ---

Stephen

I would try HD Tune (freeware).
Download and run it and see what it turns up.
http://www.hdtune.com/

Select the Info tabs and place the cursor on the drive under Drive
letter and then double click the two page icon ( copy to Clipboard )
and copy into a further message.

Select the Health tab and then double click the two page icon ( copy
to Clipboard ) and copy into a further message. Also do a full surface
scan with HD Tune.



--

Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Stephen wrote:
> Every time I scan my disks (partitions) for errors, more of these
> types of errors are found:
>
> Cleaning up 928 unused index entries from index $SII of file 0x9.
> Cleaning up 928 unused index entries from index $SDH of file 0x9.
> Cleaning up 928 unused security descriptors.
>
> This applies to all 4 of my partitions on one disk, plus 2 partitions
> on another disk when it is connected.
> CHKDSK may be fixing stuff, but the problems keep arising! What on
> earth is going on?
> What do these security descriptors do? Do they have anything to do
> with my not using Simple File Sharing?
>
> For those of you who haven't seen these messages before, these are
> generated when scanning the partitions at boot time, and the logs are
> viewed with Event Viewer under Application with the Source
> "Winlogon". (Event Viewer is found by going to My Computer \ Manage
> \ Computer Management \ System Tools \ Event Viewer.)
>
>
> Also of interest in Event Viewer under System are entries with the
> Source "disk".
> In the last 10 days, I've seen:
> The device, \Device\Harddisk3\D, has a bad block. 10 times and
> The device, \Device\Harddisk4\D, has a bad block. 1 time.
>
> This is really disconcerting. I have used various disk testing
> programs, many running from boot floppy disks, and these haven't been
> able to fault the hardware, only the NTFS File System.
>
> I'm running Windows XP Professional with SP2, fully patched.
> I've also tried running System File Checker (sfc /scannow) to try to
> ensure that the operating system's files haven't become corrupted.
>
>
> Gerry has already shown me that the problem isn't related to
> http://support.microsoft.com/default...b/831374/en-us
> because each of my partitions doesn't have more than 4,194,303 files,
> or a master file table larger than 4 gigabytes (GB).
>
> I hate not being able to trust nor fix my file system. I'm hoping I
> don't need to trash the whole installation and start from scratch.
> I'm out of ideas. Any help?

On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 20:38:14 +0100, "Gerry" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> Martin
>
> Unless I have been fed misinformation you may find Ghost is no longer
> supported by Symantec!


Gerry, I think you're mistaken. See
http://www.symantec.com/themes/ghost...?src=symsug_us

--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User
Please Reply to the Newsgroup

Ken

I was passing on this misinformation "I called Symantec, "We don't
support Ghost 7.0 anymore, call Microsoft and get different Restore XP
software"."

Ghost 7.0 is now quite old but it may still be supported notwithstanding
what was said in XP Performance newsgroup today. There are, however, a
number of versions not supported. Symantec are dropping established
programmes with the advent of Vista e.g. Winfax Pro is the latest
casualty. Still my writing off Ghost may be premature. We shall see <G>!

--
Regards.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
> On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 20:38:14 +0100, "Gerry" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>> Martin
>>
>> Unless I have been fed misinformation you may find Ghost is no longer
>> supported by Symantec!
>
>
> Gerry, I think you're mistaken. See
> http://www.symantec.com/themes/ghost...?src=symsug_us

On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 00:06:47 +0100, "Gerry" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> Ken
>
> I was passing on this misinformation "I called Symantec, "We don't
> support Ghost 7.0 anymore, call Microsoft and get different Restore XP
> software"."
>
> Ghost 7.0 is now quite old but it may still be supported notwithstanding
> what was said in XP Performance newsgroup today. There are, however, a
> number of versions not supported. Symantec are dropping established
> programmes with the advent of Vista e.g. Winfax Pro is the latest
> casualty. Still my writing off Ghost may be premature. We shall see <G>!


*I* hope you're right. Writing off anything Symantec sounds good to
me.





> Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
> > On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 20:38:14 +0100, "Gerry" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> >
> >> Martin
> >>
> >> Unless I have been fed misinformation you may find Ghost is no longer
> >> supported by Symantec!
> >
> >
> > Gerry, I think you're mistaken. See
> > http://www.symantec.com/themes/ghost...?src=symsug_us
>

--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User
Please Reply to the Newsgroup

On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 00:06:47 +0100, "Gerry" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> Ken
>
> I was passing on this misinformation "I called Symantec, "We don't
> support Ghost 7.0 anymore, call Microsoft and get different Restore XP
> software"."
>
> Ghost 7.0 is now quite old but it may still be supported notwithstanding
> what was said in XP Performance newsgroup today. There are, however, a
> number of versions not supported. Symantec are dropping established
> programmes with the advent of Vista e.g. Winfax Pro is the latest
> casualty. Still my writing off Ghost may be premature. We shall see <G>!

Ghost 7 and other old versions are not supported because Ghost 12 is
the current version.
http://www.symantec.com/home_homeoff...r&pvid=ghost12



--
======== Tecknomage ========
Computer Systems Specialist
San Diego, CA

On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 07:42:06 -0700, Stephen
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> Every time I scan my disks (partitions) for errors, more of these types of
> errors are found:
>
> Cleaning up 928 unused index entries from index $SII of file 0x9.
> Cleaning up 928 unused index entries from index $SDH of file 0x9.
> Cleaning up 928 unused security descriptors.
>

This almost looks like the "lost chains" in a FAT system, but I'm not
sure.


> This applies to all 4 of my partitions on one disk, plus 2 partitions on
> another disk when it is connected.
> CHKDSK may be fixing stuff, but the problems keep arising! What on earth is
> going on?
> What do these security descriptors do? Do they have anything to do with my
> not using Simple File Sharing?
>
> For those of you who haven't seen these messages before, these are generated
> when scanning the partitions at boot time, and the logs are viewed with Event
> Viewer under Application with the Source "Winlogon". (Event Viewer is found
> by going to My Computer \ Manage \ Computer Management \ System Tools \ Event
> Viewer.)
>
>
> Also of interest in Event Viewer under System are entries with the Source
> "disk".
> In the last 10 days, I've seen:
> The device, \Device\Harddisk3\D, has a bad block. 10 times and
> The device, \Device\Harddisk4\D, has a bad block. 1 time.

How old are these hard drives?

This is an indication of a hardware problem, the hard drives
themselves, and cannot be corrected by software. Somehow blocks
(specific track-sector location) have become physically damaged.

Consider replacing these drives if they continue to give you problems.

In addition, the bad block problem _may_ be causing your other
problems _if_ the bad blocks contain index/security data.


>
> This is really disconcerting. I have used various disk testing programs,
> many running from boot floppy disks, and these haven't been able to fault the
> hardware, only the NTFS File System.
>
> I'm running Windows XP Professional with SP2, fully patched.
> I've also tried running System File Checker (sfc /scannow) to try to ensure
> that the operating system's files haven't become corrupted.
>
>
> Gerry has already shown me that the problem isn't related to
> http://support.microsoft.com/default...b/831374/en-us
> because each of my partitions doesn't have more than 4,194,303 files, or a
> master file table larger than 4 gigabytes (GB).
>
> I hate not being able to trust nor fix my file system. I'm hoping I don't
> need to trash the whole installation and start from scratch. I'm out of
> ideas. Any help?
--
======== Tecknomage ========
Computer Systems Specialist
San Diego, CA

Any comments on this link?
http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT...b?OpenDocument


--
Regards.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Tecknomage wrote:
> On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 00:06:47 +0100, "Gerry" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>> Ken
>>
>> I was passing on this misinformation "I called Symantec, "We don't
>> support Ghost 7.0 anymore, call Microsoft and get different Restore
>> XP software"."
>>
>> Ghost 7.0 is now quite old but it may still be supported
>> notwithstanding what was said in XP Performance newsgroup today.
>> There are, however, a number of versions not supported. Symantec are
>> dropping established programmes with the advent of Vista e.g. Winfax
>> Pro is the latest casualty. Still my writing off Ghost may be
>> premature. We shall see <G>!
>
> Ghost 7 and other old versions are not supported because Ghost 12 is
> the current version.
> http://www.symantec.com/home_homeoff...r&pvid=ghost12