Today when I booted my computer checkdisk ran automatically, "fixed" some
errors, and simply rebooted leaving me in a state of cluelessness.

Fortunately I could retrieve the information via:

Event Viewer->Application Source:WinLogon:

Here is the chkdisk report:

"
Checking file system on C:
The type of the file system is NTFS.


One of your disks needs to be checked for consistency. You
may cancel the disk check, but it is strongly recommended
that you continue.
Windows will now check the disk.
Index entry nvoglnt.dll of index $I30 in file 0x1d points to unused file
0xc958.
Deleting index entry nvoglnt.dll in index $I30 of file 29.
Index entry resume.el of index $I30 in file 0xc76b points to unused file
0xc959.
Deleting index entry resume.el in index $I30 of file 51051.
Index entry Unit1.dfm of index $I30 in file 0xc90d points to unused file
0xc95a.
Deleting index entry Unit1.dfm in index $I30 of file 51469.
Index entry Unit1.pas of index $I30 in file 0xc90d points to unused file
0xc95b.
Deleting index entry Unit1.pas in index $I30 of file 51469.
Cleaning up minor inconsistencies on the drive.
Cleaning up 48 unused index entries from index $SII of file 0x9.
Cleaning up 48 unused index entries from index $SDH of file 0x9.
Cleaning up 48 unused security descriptors.
CHKDSK discovered free space marked as allocated in the
master file table (MFT) bitmap.
CHKDSK discovered free space marked as allocated in the volume bitmap.
Windows has made corrections to the file system.

11550703 KB total disk space.
10344776 KB in 215692 files.
91180 KB in 22706 indexes.
0 KB in bad sectors.
321155 KB in use by the system.
65536 KB occupied by the log file.
793592 KB available on disk.

4096 bytes in each allocation unit.
2887675 total allocation units on disk.
198398 allocation units available on disk.

Internal Info:
54 e1 03 00 49 a3 03 00 62 8c 05 00 00 00 00 00 T...I...b.......
60 27 00 00 00 00 00 00 f0 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 `'..............
20 85 2e 12 00 00 00 00 20 08 2c db 01 00 00 00 ....... .,.....
f0 05 5b 0e 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ..[.............
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 40 0b c2 06 02 00 00 00 ........@.......
99 9e 36 00 00 00 00 00 8c 4a 03 00 00 00 00 00 ..6......J......
00 20 65 77 02 00 00 00 b2 58 00 00 00 00 00 00 . ew.....X......

Windows has finished checking your disk.
Please wait while your computer restarts.


For more information, see Help and Support Center at
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
"

Then later when I tried to start "Return to Castle Wolfenstein Multiplayer
Demo":

"
Wolf 1.1 win-x86 Dec 17 2001
----- FS_Startup -----
Current search path:
F:\GAMES\Return to Castle Wolfenstein Multiplayer DEMO/main

----------------------
0 files in pk3 files

Running in restricted demo mode.

----- FS_Startup -----
Current search path:
F:\GAMES\Return to Castle Wolfenstein Multiplayer DEMO\demomain\pak0.pk3
(1846 files)
F:\GAMES\Return to Castle Wolfenstein Multiplayer DEMO/demomain

----------------------
1846 files in pk3 files
execing default.cfg
couldn't exec language.cfg
execing wolfconfig_mp.cfg
usage: seta <variable> <value>
execing autoexec.cfg
Hunk_Clear: reset the hunk ok
....detecting CPU, found Intel Pentium III
Bypassing CD checks
----- Client Initialization -----
----- Initializing Renderer ----
-------------------------------
Loaded 714 translation strings from scripts/translation.cfg
----- Client Initialization Complete -----
----- R_Init -----
Initializing OpenGL subsystem
....initializing QGL
....calling LoadLibrary( 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\opengl32.dll' ): succeeded
....setting mode 3: 640 480 FS
....using colorsbits of 32
....calling CDS: ok
....registered window class
....created window@0,0 (640x480)
Initializing OpenGL driver
....getting DC: succeeded
....GLW_ChoosePFD( 32, 24, 0 )
....35 PFDs found
....GLW_ChoosePFD failed
....failed to find an appropriate PIXELFORMAT
....restoring display settings
....WARNING: could not set the given mode (3)
....setting mode 3: 640 480 FS
....using colorsbits of 16
....calling CDS: ok
....created window@0,0 (640x480)
Initializing OpenGL driver
....getting DC: succeeded
....GLW_ChoosePFD( 16, 24, 0 )
....35 PFDs found
....GLW_ChoosePFD failed
....failed to find an appropriate PIXELFORMAT
....restoring display settings
....WARNING: could not set the given mode (3)
....shutting down QGL
....unloading OpenGL DLL
....assuming '3dfxvgl' is a standalone driver
....initializing QGL
....WARNING: missing Glide installation, assuming no 3Dfx available
....shutting down QGL
----- CL_Shutdown -----
RE_Shutdown( 1 )
-----------------------
GLW_StartOpenGL() - could not load OpenGL subsystem
"

Apperently checkdisk was bold enough to simply delete these four files:

Index entry nvoglnt.dll of index $I30 in file 0x1d points to unused file
0xc958.
Deleting index entry nvoglnt.dll in index $I30 of file 29.

Index entry resume.el of index $I30 in file 0xc76b points to unused file
0xc959.
Deleting index entry resume.el in index $I30 of file 51051.

Index entry Unit1.dfm of index $I30 in file 0xc90d points to unused file
0xc95a.
Deleting index entry Unit1.dfm in index $I30 of file 51469.

Index entry Unit1.pas of index $I30 in file 0xc90d points to unused file
0xc95b.
Deleting index entry Unit1.pas in index $I30 of file 51469.

This is not enough information for me, I want to know in what folder these
files were so I can asses the damage better.

Apperently nvoglnt.dll is related to opengl which is now damaged.

resume.el ? I have no idea what this is. Maybe a harmless file of
somebodie's resume which I got via spam/e-mail... maybe a virus... maybe
just a continue file for some program.

Unit1.dfm and Unit1.pas is some delphi source code.... I would like to know
which one has been deleted since I have many of these files on my PC....
it's probably not an important one... but stilll I would like to make sure.

How do I restore my system ? Do I simply install the latest nvidia driver
and hope for the best ?

How did this happen in the first place ? (I have been playing around with
RTCW and a debugger which I shutdown multiple times but I dont think that
was dangerous ? )

Some scenerio's

1. Some kind of crash corrupted it

2. Windows xp pro contains a bug somewhere which corrupted it

3. RTCW has a bug somewhere overwriting this file and corrupting it.

4. Somebody broke into the pc and corrupted it on purpose.

5. A virus/worm corrupted it.

Is there anything that can be done to make chkdsk give more information and
maybe ask me what I want it to do before it does it ?

Well so much for that

Bye,
Skybuck.

"Skybuck Flying" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:cqqgr9$f3c$(E-Mail Removed)...
> Today when I booted my computer checkdisk ran automatically, "fixed" some
> errors, and simply rebooted leaving me in a state of cluelessness.
> Apperently nvoglnt.dll is related to opengl which is now damaged.

Sounds like it - nvoglnt sounds like nVidia OpenGL NT driver - and XP is
NT5.1.

No idea about the other files.

> How do I restore my system ? Do I simply install the latest nvidia driver
> and hope for the best ?

First run System File Checker, which will restore any missing or damaged XP
files. At the Run option in the Start menu type

sfc /scannow

and then press OK. Have your XP CD at hand.

Then reinstall your nVidia drivers. If you're lucky, that'll sort it all
out. I wouldn't risk using a Restore Point for 2 reasons:

1) Anything you installed since the last restore point will be lost

2) If the restore point files were damaged, you could end making things
worse.

> How did this happen in the first place ? (I have been playing around with
> RTCW and a debugger which I shutdown multiple times but I dont think that
> was dangerous ? )

Either turning the power off before cached updates have been written back to
the hard drive, or hard disk could be on the way out. Get the disk utilities
for the drive you have from the manufacturers web site and run a few tests.

> Is there anything that can be done to make chkdsk give more information
> and
> maybe ask me what I want it to do before it does it ?

Normally chkdsk runs automatically on start up only when XP hasn't been shut
down normally. If you look at the text that comes up it does give you an
option to skip the checking - if you do this, and XP boots up, you can run a
command prompt and type chkdsk to get it to run without fixing anything, it
will display what is wrong (you need to run chkdsk /f to tell it to fix
any problems, and this will only be done on your system drive on reboot
anyway).

Dan

"Spack" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> "Skybuck Flying" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:cqqgr9$f3c$(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Today when I booted my computer checkdisk ran automatically, "fixed"
some
> > errors, and simply rebooted leaving me in a state of cluelessness.
> > Apperently nvoglnt.dll is related to opengl which is now damaged.
>
> Sounds like it - nvoglnt sounds like nVidia OpenGL NT driver - and XP is
> NT5.1.

Yeah

>
> No idea about the other files.
>
> > How do I restore my system ? Do I simply install the latest nvidia
driver
> > and hope for the best ?
>
> First run System File Checker, which will restore any missing or damaged
XP
> files. At the Run option in the Start menu type
>
> sfc /scannow
>
> and then press OK. Have your XP CD at hand.
>
> Then reinstall your nVidia drivers. If you're lucky, that'll sort it all
> out. I wouldn't risk using a Restore Point for 2 reasons:
>
> 1) Anything you installed since the last restore point will be lost
>
> 2) If the restore point files were damaged, you could end making things
> worse.

Well since only the opengl dll was damaged I was lucky and simply installed
the latest nvidia drivers and voila it s working again

>
> > How did this happen in the first place ? (I have been playing around
with
> > RTCW and a debugger which I shutdown multiple times but I dont think
that
> > was dangerous ? )
>
> Either turning the power off before cached updates have been written back
to
> the hard drive, or hard disk could be on the way out. Get the disk
utilities
> for the drive you have from the manufacturers web site and run a few
tests.

Well power off and cache stuff I dont think so at least not for the dll...
why would anything write to the dll ? Except maybe defrag or repairing the
dll or something wacky.

Harddisk could be getting old... though I hope not

No I dont trust the utilities... I dont wanna erase my harddisk

>
> > Is there anything that can be done to make chkdsk give more information
> > and
> > maybe ask me what I want it to do before it does it ?
>
> Normally chkdsk runs automatically on start up only when XP hasn't been
shut
> down normally. If you look at the text that comes up it does give you an
> option to skip the checking - if you do this, and XP boots up, you can run
a
> command prompt and type chkdsk to get it to run without fixing anything,
it
> will display what is wrong (you need to run chkdsk /f to tell it to fix
> any problems, and this will only be done on your system drive on reboot
> anyway).

Well so far it's has not turn out bad... so I will simply let chkdsk
continue to run as it is...

But at the next sign of trouble... I'm gonna disable it

I dont wanna run the risk of losing important files

Though I do make backups... good reason to make another backup soon

Bye,
Skybuck.

"Skybuck Flying" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:cqrepa$90h$(E-Mail Removed)...
>
> "Spack" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Either turning the power off before cached updates have been written back
> to
>> the hard drive, or hard disk could be on the way out. Get the disk
> utilities
>> for the drive you have from the manufacturers web site and run a few
> tests.
>
> Well power off and cache stuff I dont think so at least not for the dll...
> why would anything write to the dll ? Except maybe defrag or repairing the
> dll or something wacky.

By not lettin the machine shut down properly you can mess up the MFT (Master
File Table) which is an index of all the files on the drive and their
locations - it's not the nVidia dll that got messed up, it was the index
information, so the index was removed because XP could not reliably be sure
of where the file was and where any fragmented pieces might be. MFT
corruption is less likely to happen than with FAT or VFAT, but not shutting
your PC down correctly always runs the risk of messing something up.

Dan

He'll screw around with a debugger but won't trust disk utilities?

DaveL


"Skybuck Flying" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:cqrepa$90h$(E-Mail Removed)...
>
> "Spack" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > "Skybuck Flying" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:cqqgr9$f3c$(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > Today when I booted my computer checkdisk ran automatically, "fixed"
> some
> > > errors, and simply rebooted leaving me in a state of cluelessness.
> > > Apperently nvoglnt.dll is related to opengl which is now damaged.
> >
> > Sounds like it - nvoglnt sounds like nVidia OpenGL NT driver - and XP is
> > NT5.1.
>
> Yeah
>
> >
> > No idea about the other files.
> >
> > > How do I restore my system ? Do I simply install the latest nvidia
> driver
> > > and hope for the best ?
> >
> > First run System File Checker, which will restore any missing or damaged
> XP
> > files. At the Run option in the Start menu type
> >
> > sfc /scannow
> >
> > and then press OK. Have your XP CD at hand.
> >
> > Then reinstall your nVidia drivers. If you're lucky, that'll sort it all
> > out. I wouldn't risk using a Restore Point for 2 reasons:
> >
> > 1) Anything you installed since the last restore point will be lost
> >
> > 2) If the restore point files were damaged, you could end making things
> > worse.
>
> Well since only the opengl dll was damaged I was lucky and simply
installed
> the latest nvidia drivers and voila it s working again
>
> >
> > > How did this happen in the first place ? (I have been playing around
> with
> > > RTCW and a debugger which I shutdown multiple times but I dont think
> that
> > > was dangerous ? )
> >
> > Either turning the power off before cached updates have been written
back
> to
> > the hard drive, or hard disk could be on the way out. Get the disk
> utilities
> > for the drive you have from the manufacturers web site and run a few
> tests.
>
> Well power off and cache stuff I dont think so at least not for the dll...
> why would anything write to the dll ? Except maybe defrag or repairing the
> dll or something wacky.
>
> Harddisk could be getting old... though I hope not
>
> No I dont trust the utilities... I dont wanna erase my harddisk
>
> >
> > > Is there anything that can be done to make chkdsk give more
information
> > > and
> > > maybe ask me what I want it to do before it does it ?
> >
> > Normally chkdsk runs automatically on start up only when XP hasn't been
> shut
> > down normally. If you look at the text that comes up it does give you an
> > option to skip the checking - if you do this, and XP boots up, you can
run
> a
> > command prompt and type chkdsk to get it to run without fixing
anything,
> it
> > will display what is wrong (you need to run chkdsk /f to tell it to
fix
> > any problems, and this will only be done on your system drive on reboot
> > anyway).
>
> Well so far it's has not turn out bad... so I will simply let chkdsk
> continue to run as it is...
>
> But at the next sign of trouble... I'm gonna disable it
>
> I dont wanna run the risk of losing important files
>
> Though I do make backups... good reason to make another backup soon
>
> Bye,
> Skybuck.
>
>

"DaveL" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:PvKdnZ7B7PmMAEzcRVn-(E-Mail Removed)...
> He'll screw around with a debugger but won't trust disk utilities?

Nope these utitilities are complex and hard to understand and before you
know... you're doing a low level format heheheheh.

"DaveL" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:PvKdnZ7B7PmMAEzcRVn-(E-Mail Removed)...
> He'll screw around with a debugger but won't trust disk utilities?

Yeah.... I'll pass on disk utilities that do a low level format to "test"
the drive LOL.

Bye.
Skybuck

Besides....

I checked this site:

http://www.hitachigst.com/hdd/support/download.htm

It does mention possibility of losing data... scary.

But even if I wanted to give it a go...

I dont have a diskdrive anymore hehehehehehe removed yessss to make room for
the king the new drive... so it s cooool.

I could make a bootable cd... but spending on 1 euro on it is LOL to much
what a waste

On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 12:22:34 +0100, "Skybuck Flying"
>"Spack" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> "Skybuck Flying" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message

>> > Today when I booted my computer checkdisk ran automatically, "fixed"
>> > some errors, and simply rebooted leaving me in a state of cluelessness.

Two bad OS design "features" at work here:

1) Auto-fixing ChkDsk (or really in this case, AutoChk)
2) Automatically reboot on system errors

Even if you say "well, unattended servers would want reboot on errors
to maintain downtime", what's the point of rebooting on errors that
arise before the OS boot process is complete?

Fortunately, you can (and IMO should) kill (2) via System, Properties,
Advanced etc. Unfortunately, the UI design of ChkDsk and AutoChk date
from before MS-DOS 6 brought Scandisk to the world, so they simply
don't offer any interactive (user-controlled) mode of operation at all

>> > Apperently nvoglnt.dll is related to opengl which is now damaged.
>> Sounds like it - nvoglnt sounds like nVidia OpenGL NT driver - and XP is
>> NT5.1.

>> No idea about the other files.

Not only do AutoChk and ChkDsk /F automatically "fix" without
prompting you, but they bury their results deep in the bowels of Event
Viewer. Not somewhere obvious like "ChkDsk", but "Winlogin" or
something. It's hard to read that material if XP can't boot.

>Well since only the opengl dll was damaged I was lucky and simply installed
>the latest nvidia drivers and voila it s working again

>> Either turning the power off before cached updates have been
>> written back to the hard drive, or hard disk could be on the way out.
>> Get the disk utilities for the drive you have from the manufacturers
>> web site and run a few tests.

>why would anything write to the dll ? Except maybe defrag or repairing the
>dll or something wacky.

Yes, code files would normally be written to only when:
- installed
- updated
- infected
- disinfected
- moved by defrag
- "fixed" by ChkDsk or AutoChk
- splatted by wild writes

HD file system (structure, i.e. that ChkDsk can detect) can be
corrupted in various ways:

1) Interruption of sane writes

This is what ChkDsk and AutoChk ASSume is going on, when they "fix"
things, and what NTFS's vaunted "transaction rollback" is designed to
mitigate (though the small print says only metadata is protected).

2) Wild writes

If the file system's layer of abstraction is undermined by bad RAM or
other flaky hardware, or deranged/malicious software, then the file
system's "rules" may be broken too. For example, a data cluster
destined for volume cluster address 63412 may be bit-punned (by a
reset address bit) to 30644, and thus overwrite data from some
completely unrelated file. At the lower level of raw sector
addresses, this can corrupt the raw bones of the file system itself.

3) Bad HD

Just about everything conspires to hide HD failure from you. First,
the HD's own firmware "fixes" rotting sectors on the fly; then NTFS's
code does the same thing, and finally ChkDsk /R paints over bad
clusters and ignores existing ones. And by default, CMOS setup
disables SMART reporting on POST. So it's up to you to suspect this
possibility whenever the mouse pointer sticks with the HD LED on (bad
sector retries) and chase it up before your data's hosed.


On HD diagnostics: Yes, take care to avoid destructive tests, and
abort testing as soon as physical errors show up and proceed directly
to evacuating your data, from outside "I can't run without writing to
C:, too bad if that kills the data" Windows.

SMART reporters from HD vendors will look at the SMART history and
typically go "hmmm, only a few thousand wobbly sectors that so far
we've auto-'fixed'... OK, call it a 'good' HD, no need to issue an
RMA". Don't accept a glib one-line "everything's fine" report; use
something like AIDA32 to show you all the detail that SMART can cough
up. SMART's potentially good in that it's the only window into bad
sectors that are already hidden by the firmware's "fixing".

In addition, use something that can non-destructively check the HD
surface. Watch for slowdowns in the progress - if outside of
Windows's constant background tasks, they can be taken to mean retries
of sick sectors - even if the utility says everything is "OK".



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On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 13:55:00 -0000, "Spack"

>By not lettin the machine shut down properly you can mess up the MFT (Master
>File Table) which is an index of all the files on the drive and their
>locations - it's not the nVidia dll that got messed up, it was the index
>information, so the index was removed because XP could not reliably be sure
>of where the file was and where any fragmented pieces might be.

Great logic, eh? "I can't figure out what's going on, so best we just
kill, bury and deny anything happened, even if it means this makes it
impossible for a tech to fix things and recover data".

>MFT corruption is less likely to happen than with FAT or VFAT

Well, VFAT is the code that manages FATxx, and FATxx doesn't have an
MFT. The most crucial file system structure in FATxx is the FAT
themselves, and because these are so crucial, FATxx maintains two
copies and updates them both within such a small critical period that
"mismatched FAT" from interruption of sane file ops is very rare.

What does "better" file system NTFS do about hedging against
interrupted MFT updates? AFAIK, nothing beyond keeping duplicates of
a handful of crucial system entries. It's a case of the OS saying
"I'm alright Jack; too bad about your data".

>not shutting down correctly always runs the risk of messing up.

Yep. Forget that at your peril ;-)



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