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      3rd Jul 2007
Are these safe to run? Can they do damage to my system? If they are safe
how frequently should they be run?
 
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      3rd Jul 2007
A good question. First you should always do a Chkdsk on the
volume before doing a defrag. The basic Chkdsk only scans &
checks for inconsistencies. If found, it (Chkdsk) will recommend
a more comprehensive /F /R (Fix or Repair). This is more risky.
Any repairs made by Chkdsk can sometimes does remove data.
I wouldn't ever do a Chkdsk /F /R without minimal backup on
the data and preferably a image of the volume

How often depends on factors like how full your drive is, daily
usage and how much data movement ( Create/Edit/Delete ) you
do. A basic Chkdsk ( Chkdsk C: ) from a command prompt is
something you should probably do every few weeks. You can
alternately invoke a command to ask the drive if it's "Dirty" (needs
a Chkdsk run on it ) Enter this from a Cmd prompt window.
FSUtil Dirty Query C:
It will respond with Is or is Not Dirty.

On defrag scheduling, Once a month will probably keep things in
order - but it varies depending on use.

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> Are these safe to run? Can they do damage to my system? If they are safe
> how frequently should they be run?



 
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Ken Blake, MVP
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      3rd Jul 2007
On Tue, 3 Jul 2007 17:31:56 -0400, "R. McCarty"
<PcEngWork-NoSpam_@mindspring.com> wrote:

> A good question. First you should always do a Chkdsk on the
> volume before doing a defrag.



Sorry, I don't agree with this at all. You never need to run chkdsk
unless you have reason to suspect a problem. I defrag regularly (once
a month or so) but never run chkdsk.


> The basic Chkdsk only scans &
> checks for inconsistencies. If found, it (Chkdsk) will recommend
> a more comprehensive /F /R (Fix or Repair). This is more risky.
> Any repairs made by Chkdsk can sometimes does remove data.
> I wouldn't ever do a Chkdsk /F /R without minimal backup on
> the data and preferably a image of the volume
>
> How often depends on factors like how full your drive is, daily
> usage and how much data movement ( Create/Edit/Delete ) you
> do. A basic Chkdsk ( Chkdsk C: ) from a command prompt is
> something you should probably do every few weeks. You can
> alternately invoke a command to ask the drive if it's "Dirty" (needs
> a Chkdsk run on it ) Enter this from a Cmd prompt window.
> FSUtil Dirty Query C:
> It will respond with Is or is Not Dirty.
>
> On defrag scheduling, Once a month will probably keep things in
> order - but it varies depending on use.
>
> "grok" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:7E175880-CA4E-45C5-B7B4-(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Are these safe to run? Can they do damage to my system? If they are safe
> > how frequently should they be run?

>


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      3rd Jul 2007
I agree;
I cannot remember the last time I ran Chkdsk 2+ years ago? on a sys thats
run, & runs proccesses, 24/7
I do run Executive Diskeeper (defrag)

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> On Tue, 3 Jul 2007 17:31:56 -0400, "R. McCarty"
> <PcEngWork-NoSpam_@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>> A good question. First you should always do a Chkdsk on the
>> volume before doing a defrag.

>
>
> Sorry, I don't agree with this at all. You never need to run chkdsk
> unless you have reason to suspect a problem. I defrag regularly (once
> a month or so) but never run chkdsk.
>
>
>> The basic Chkdsk only scans &
>> checks for inconsistencies. If found, it (Chkdsk) will recommend
>> a more comprehensive /F /R (Fix or Repair). This is more risky.
>> Any repairs made by Chkdsk can sometimes does remove data.
>> I wouldn't ever do a Chkdsk /F /R without minimal backup on
>> the data and preferably a image of the volume
>>
>> How often depends on factors like how full your drive is, daily
>> usage and how much data movement ( Create/Edit/Delete ) you
>> do. A basic Chkdsk ( Chkdsk C: ) from a command prompt is
>> something you should probably do every few weeks. You can
>> alternately invoke a command to ask the drive if it's "Dirty" (needs
>> a Chkdsk run on it ) Enter this from a Cmd prompt window.
>> FSUtil Dirty Query C:
>> It will respond with Is or is Not Dirty.
>>
>> On defrag scheduling, Once a month will probably keep things in
>> order - but it varies depending on use.
>>
>> "grok" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:7E175880-CA4E-45C5-B7B4-(E-Mail Removed)...
>> > Are these safe to run? Can they do damage to my system? If they are
>> > safe
>> > how frequently should they be run?

>>

>
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      3rd Jul 2007
"Ken Blake, MVP" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>On Tue, 3 Jul 2007 17:31:56 -0400, "R. McCarty"
><PcEngWork-NoSpam_@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>> A good question. First you should always do a Chkdsk on the
>> volume before doing a defrag.

>
>Sorry, I don't agree with this at all. You never need to run chkdsk
>unless you have reason to suspect a problem.


But it doesn't hurt (or take much time) to run it.

>I defrag regularly (once a month or so) but never run chkdsk.


Many "experts" would say that such a schedule for defragging in XP is
totally unnecessary ;-)

I for one agree.
 
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      4th Jul 2007
On Tue, 03 Jul 2007 17:47:47 -0500, Uncle Grumpy
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> "Ken Blake, MVP" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
> >On Tue, 3 Jul 2007 17:31:56 -0400, "R. McCarty"
> ><PcEngWork-NoSpam_@mindspring.com> wrote:
> >
> >> A good question. First you should always do a Chkdsk on the
> >> volume before doing a defrag.

> >
> >Sorry, I don't agree with this at all. You never need to run chkdsk
> >unless you have reason to suspect a problem.

>
> But it doesn't hurt (or take much time) to run it.



That's true, but irrelevant to my comment. The statement "you should
always do a Chkdsk on the volume before doing a defrag" is not
correct, and I pointed that out.



> >I defrag regularly (once a month or so) but never run chkdsk.

>
> Many "experts" would say that such a schedule for defragging in XP is
> totally unnecessary ;-)
>
> I for one agree.



How often to defrag depends on how you use your computer and how much
you use your computer. There is no single schedule that's right for
everybody.


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      4th Jul 2007
"Ken Blake, MVP" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>> Many "experts" would say that such a schedule for defragging in XP is
>> totally unnecessary ;-)
>>
>> I for one agree.

>
>
>How often to defrag depends on how you use your computer and how much
>you use your computer. There is no single schedule that's right for
>everybody.


Given the speed of today's processors, I think it's safe to say that
the benefits of defragging are more a figment of one's obsessive
imagination than they are of real value.
 
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"Ken Blake, MVP" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 03 Jul 2007 17:47:47 -0500, Uncle Grumpy
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>> "Ken Blake, MVP" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>
>> >On Tue, 3 Jul 2007 17:31:56 -0400, "R. McCarty"
>> ><PcEngWork-NoSpam_@mindspring.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> A good question. First you should always do a Chkdsk on the
>> >> volume before doing a defrag.
>> >
>> >Sorry, I don't agree with this at all. You never need to run chkdsk
>> >unless you have reason to suspect a problem.

>>
>> But it doesn't hurt (or take much time) to run it.

>
>
> That's true, but irrelevant to my comment. The statement "you should
> always do a Chkdsk on the volume before doing a defrag" is not
> correct, and I pointed that out.
>
>
>
>> >I defrag regularly (once a month or so) but never run chkdsk.

>>
>> Many "experts" would say that such a schedule for defragging in XP is
>> totally unnecessary ;-)
>>
>> I for one agree.

>
>
> How often to defrag depends on how you use your computer and how much
> you use your computer. There is no single schedule that's right for
> everybody.
>
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I am with Ken here. I only run chkdsk when I feel like it; perhaps once or
twice per year. Every now and then (once per month or so), I run dfrag. I
only defrag when the utility tells me to (perhaps one time out of four).

I really suspect that the benefits of dfragmentation these days is more
cosmetic than anything else.

Jim


 
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      4th Jul 2007
"Jim" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>I am with Ken here. I only run chkdsk when I feel like it; perhaps once or
>twice per year. Every now and then (once per month or so), I run dfrag. I
>only defrag when the utility tells me to (perhaps one time out of four).
>
>I really suspect that the benefits of dfragmentation these days is more
>cosmetic than anything else.


So you agree that defragging is a waste of time.


 
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      4th Jul 2007
they will DESTROY your system


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