will it be the same as XP, just enter the volume license key and don't have
to activate, will this edition available to any Chinese
bank/university/government sector soon ???

because people in a forum keep asking if a Chinese bank/corperation/school
or whatever, has received a copy of Volume license Vista.

thanks

You need to ask your volume licensing administrator. There is a change to
volume licensing with regards to activation but the details may still be
under NDA so I cannot comment further.

"Janet Chen" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> will it be the same as XP, just enter the volume license key and don't
> have to activate, will this edition available to any Chinese
> bank/university/government sector soon ???
>
> because people in a forum keep asking if a Chinese bank/corperation/school
> or whatever, has received a copy of Volume license Vista.
>
> thanks
>
>

Hi Colin,
Welcome back,
wherever ya were!!!
lol

Jeff

"Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst(remove)@msn.com> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> You need to ask your volume licensing administrator. There is a change to
> volume licensing with regards to activation but the details may still be
> under NDA so I cannot comment further.
>
> "Janet Chen" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> will it be the same as XP, just enter the volume license key and don't
>> have to activate, will this edition available to any Chinese
>> bank/university/government sector soon ???
>>
>> because people in a forum keep asking if a Chinese
>> bank/corperation/school or whatever, has received a copy of Volume
>> license Vista.
>>
>> thanks
>>
>>
>
>

Vista was a done deal so I took time out to recharge the batteries. Back
now to help some newbies. There will be many now.

"Jeff" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Hi Colin,
> Welcome back,
> wherever ya were!!!
> lol
>
> Jeff
>
> "Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst(remove)@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> You need to ask your volume licensing administrator. There is a change
>> to volume licensing with regards to activation but the details may still
>> be under NDA so I cannot comment further.
>>
>> "Janet Chen" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> will it be the same as XP, just enter the volume license key and don't
>>> have to activate, will this edition available to any Chinese
>>> bank/university/government sector soon ???
>>>
>>> because people in a forum keep asking if a Chinese
>>> bank/corperation/school or whatever, has received a copy of Volume
>>> license Vista.
>>>
>>> thanks
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>

In article <(E-Mail Removed)>,
(E-Mail Removed) says...
> will it be the same as XP, just enter the volume license key and don't have
> to activate, will this edition available to any Chinese
> bank/university/government sector soon ???
>
> because people in a forum keep asking if a Chinese bank/corperation/school
> or whatever, has received a copy of Volume license Vista.
>
> thanks
>
Hello Janet,

No, I doubt very much if it will be the same as XP. Microsoft is not
going to allow everybody in China to download a copy of Vista and use one
of the volume license keys from the government (or bank, corp. etc.)
which don't require activation.

I think Microsoft learned a lesson from XP and will not let the same
thing happen with Vista. Based on information I've read (which I believe)
almost noone in China actually purchased a legal copy of XP.

They just downloaded a copy and used one of the Chinese government volume
license keys to install it. A key was as easy to obtain as the download.

Apparently from the forum you reference many people are expecting to do
the same thing with Vista. I think they are going to be disappointed.

How right you are.

"NewsHound" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> In article <(E-Mail Removed)>,
> (E-Mail Removed) says...
>> will it be the same as XP, just enter the volume license key and don't
>> have
>> to activate, will this edition available to any Chinese
>> bank/university/government sector soon ???
>>
>> because people in a forum keep asking if a Chinese
>> bank/corperation/school
>> or whatever, has received a copy of Volume license Vista.
>>
>> thanks
>>
> Hello Janet,
>
> No, I doubt very much if it will be the same as XP. Microsoft is not
> going to allow everybody in China to download a copy of Vista and use one
> of the volume license keys from the government (or bank, corp. etc.)
> which don't require activation.
>
> I think Microsoft learned a lesson from XP and will not let the same
> thing happen with Vista. Based on information I've read (which I believe)
> almost noone in China actually purchased a legal copy of XP.
>
> They just downloaded a copy and used one of the Chinese government volume
> license keys to install it. A key was as easy to obtain as the download.
>
> Apparently from the forum you reference many people are expecting to do
> the same thing with Vista. I think they are going to be disappointed.
>
>
>
>

>Based on information I've read (which I believe)
> almost noone in China actually purchased a legal copy of XP.

Care for sharing the source of information?



"NewsHound" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> In article <(E-Mail Removed)>,
> (E-Mail Removed) says...
>> will it be the same as XP, just enter the volume license key and don't
>> have
>> to activate, will this edition available to any Chinese
>> bank/university/government sector soon ???
>>
>> because people in a forum keep asking if a Chinese
>> bank/corperation/school
>> or whatever, has received a copy of Volume license Vista.
>>
>> thanks
>>
> Hello Janet,
>
> No, I doubt very much if it will be the same as XP. Microsoft is not
> going to allow everybody in China to download a copy of Vista and use one
> of the volume license keys from the government (or bank, corp. etc.)
> which don't require activation.
>
> I think Microsoft learned a lesson from XP and will not let the same
> thing happen with Vista. Based on information I've read (which I believe)
> almost noone in China actually purchased a legal copy of XP.
>
> They just downloaded a copy and used one of the Chinese government volume
> license keys to install it. A key was as easy to obtain as the download.
>
> Apparently from the forum you reference many people are expecting to do
> the same thing with Vista. I think they are going to be disappointed.
>
>
>
>

"xfile" <cou-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> >Based on information I've read (which I believe)
>> almost noone in China actually purchased a legal copy of XP.
>
> Care for sharing the source of information?
>

Lenovo now selling more computers with Windows XP


BLOOMBERG
Wednesday, Apr 19, 2006, Page 10
Lenovo Group Ltd (??), China's largest personal computer maker, is selling
more machines with Windows XP software, suggesting progress in Microsoft
Corp's efforts to curb piracy, Lenovo chairman Yang Yuanqing (???) said.

About 70 percent of Chinese buyers opt for Microsoft's Windows, the world's
most popular operating system, up from 10 percent in November when Lenovo
started pre-installing copies, Yang said yesterday in an interview. Lenovo
will buy US$1.2 billion worth of Windows in the next year, the companies
said on Monday.

"It's very good to see for improving the overall environment," Yang said at
a hotel in Bellevue, Washington.

Buyers are responding to marketing that suggests that pirated software has
more flaws and viruses, he said.

Microsoft chairman Bill Gates, 50, has intensified his lobbying of the
Chinese government to crack down on piracy as the Redmond, Washington-based
company last year only got 1 percent of sales in the nation, the world's
second-largest PC market after the US. About 90 percent of software used in
China is pirated, according to researcher IDC and the Business Software
Alliance, a group funded by Microsoft.

Yang on Monday signed a joint marketing agreement with Gates and Microsoft
chief executive officer Steve Ballmer on the eve of a US visit from Chinese
President Hu Jintao (???). A flurry of official statements have preceded the
visit, including a mandate dated March 30 by three Chinese agencies,
requiring all locally made PCs to come installed with genuine operating
software.

The government mandate "does mark a breakthrough in overall education of the
market," said Scott Di Valerio, corporate vice president of Microsoft's OEM
Division, where he oversees relations with PC makers. "The support there is
really starting to pay off."

In addition to lobbying, Gates has boosted Microsoft's investments in China
and donated to Chinese schools as he tries to spark more software sales.
Microsoft's worldwide sales rose 8 percent in fiscal 2005, slowing from a 14
percent gain the previous year. Microsoft is the world's biggest software
maker.

Lenovo's estimated purchases of Windows includes the ThinkPad line of
computers acquired last year from IBM Corp. Lenovo didn't provide a
comparison for last year or a figure for China.

This month, three other Chinese PC makers said they will buy a combined
US$430 million of Windows licenses. Microsoft had US$12.2 billion in fiscal
2005 sales from the division that includes the Windows operating system.

People can now buy illegal copies of Windows for a few dollars on the street
in China. Machines installed with genuine Windows software will cost more
than those Lenovo was selling earlier, though Yang declined to say by how
much.

"Our pricing strategy is to keep this gap very small," Yang said. "That's
why we can have this deal with Microsoft."
This story has been viewed 686 times.


>
>
> "NewsHound" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> In article <(E-Mail Removed)>,
>> (E-Mail Removed) says...
>>> will it be the same as XP, just enter the volume license key and don't
>>> have
>>> to activate, will this edition available to any Chinese
>>> bank/university/government sector soon ???
>>>
>>> because people in a forum keep asking if a Chinese
>>> bank/corperation/school
>>> or whatever, has received a copy of Volume license Vista.
>>>
>>> thanks
>>>
>> Hello Janet,
>>
>> No, I doubt very much if it will be the same as XP. Microsoft is not
>> going to allow everybody in China to download a copy of Vista and use one
>> of the volume license keys from the government (or bank, corp. etc.)
>> which don't require activation.
>>
>> I think Microsoft learned a lesson from XP and will not let the same
>> thing happen with Vista. Based on information I've read (which I believe)
>> almost noone in China actually purchased a legal copy of XP.
>>
>> They just downloaded a copy and used one of the Chinese government volume
>> license keys to install it. A key was as easy to obtain as the download.
>>
>> Apparently from the forum you reference many people are expecting to do
>> the same thing with Vista. I think they are going to be disappointed.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>

Thanks for sharing.

Key point:

Q.: Why the rest of world hates Americans?

A.: Because we are creating our own enemies.


"John E. Carty" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:OFj%(E-Mail Removed)...
>
> "xfile" <cou-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> >Based on information I've read (which I believe)
>>> almost noone in China actually purchased a legal copy of XP.
>>
>> Care for sharing the source of information?
>>
>
> Lenovo now selling more computers with Windows XP
>
>
> BLOOMBERG
> Wednesday, Apr 19, 2006, Page 10
> Lenovo Group Ltd (??), China's largest personal computer maker, is selling
> more machines with Windows XP software, suggesting progress in Microsoft
> Corp's efforts to curb piracy, Lenovo chairman Yang Yuanqing (???) said.
>
> About 70 percent of Chinese buyers opt for Microsoft's Windows, the
> world's most popular operating system, up from 10 percent in November when
> Lenovo started pre-installing copies, Yang said yesterday in an interview.
> Lenovo will buy US$1.2 billion worth of Windows in the next year, the
> companies said on Monday.
>
> "It's very good to see for improving the overall environment," Yang said
> at a hotel in Bellevue, Washington.
>
> Buyers are responding to marketing that suggests that pirated software has
> more flaws and viruses, he said.
>
> Microsoft chairman Bill Gates, 50, has intensified his lobbying of the
> Chinese government to crack down on piracy as the Redmond,
> Washington-based company last year only got 1 percent of sales in the
> nation, the world's second-largest PC market after the US. About 90
> percent of software used in China is pirated, according to researcher IDC
> and the Business Software Alliance, a group funded by Microsoft.
>
> Yang on Monday signed a joint marketing agreement with Gates and Microsoft
> chief executive officer Steve Ballmer on the eve of a US visit from
> Chinese President Hu Jintao (???). A flurry of official statements have
> preceded the visit, including a mandate dated March 30 by three Chinese
> agencies, requiring all locally made PCs to come installed with genuine
> operating software.
>
> The government mandate "does mark a breakthrough in overall education of
> the market," said Scott Di Valerio, corporate vice president of
> Microsoft's OEM Division, where he oversees relations with PC makers. "The
> support there is really starting to pay off."
>
> In addition to lobbying, Gates has boosted Microsoft's investments in
> China and donated to Chinese schools as he tries to spark more software
> sales. Microsoft's worldwide sales rose 8 percent in fiscal 2005, slowing
> from a 14 percent gain the previous year. Microsoft is the world's biggest
> software maker.
>
> Lenovo's estimated purchases of Windows includes the ThinkPad line of
> computers acquired last year from IBM Corp. Lenovo didn't provide a
> comparison for last year or a figure for China.
>
> This month, three other Chinese PC makers said they will buy a combined
> US$430 million of Windows licenses. Microsoft had US$12.2 billion in
> fiscal 2005 sales from the division that includes the Windows operating
> system.
>
> People can now buy illegal copies of Windows for a few dollars on the
> street in China. Machines installed with genuine Windows software will
> cost more than those Lenovo was selling earlier, though Yang declined to
> say by how much.
>
> "Our pricing strategy is to keep this gap very small," Yang said. "That's
> why we can have this deal with Microsoft."
> This story has been viewed 686 times.
>
>
>>
>>
>> "NewsHound" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> In article <(E-Mail Removed)>,
>>> (E-Mail Removed) says...
>>>> will it be the same as XP, just enter the volume license key and don't
>>>> have
>>>> to activate, will this edition available to any Chinese
>>>> bank/university/government sector soon ???
>>>>
>>>> because people in a forum keep asking if a Chinese
>>>> bank/corperation/school
>>>> or whatever, has received a copy of Volume license Vista.
>>>>
>>>> thanks
>>>>
>>> Hello Janet,
>>>
>>> No, I doubt very much if it will be the same as XP. Microsoft is not
>>> going to allow everybody in China to download a copy of Vista and use
>>> one
>>> of the volume license keys from the government (or bank, corp. etc.)
>>> which don't require activation.
>>>
>>> I think Microsoft learned a lesson from XP and will not let the same
>>> thing happen with Vista. Based on information I've read (which I
>>> believe)
>>> almost noone in China actually purchased a legal copy of XP.
>>>
>>> They just downloaded a copy and used one of the Chinese government
>>> volume
>>> license keys to install it. A key was as easy to obtain as the download.
>>>
>>> Apparently from the forum you reference many people are expecting to do
>>> the same thing with Vista. I think they are going to be disappointed.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

"John E. Carty" <(E-Mail Removed)> ?¤J®ø®§·s?:OFj%(E-Mail Removed)...
>
> "xfile" <cou-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> >Based on information I've read (which I believe)
>>> almost noone in China actually purchased a legal copy of XP.
***

because there is a Windows, called "Volume Edition Windows", that doesn't
required activation.
And there are few Volume Licensed Keys (being used by banks in China and
taiwan), for unknown reason never get banned.
What's the point to buy expensive Windows then?

Piracy hurts economy? Look! China's economy is growing faster than anywhere
else.
Pirated Windows got Torjan? Only idiots believe it.
The VL Windows XP with working VLK has no difference to any legimated
Windows except it's free of charge.