Sorry...for the being out of sequence. I 'm new to Newsgroups and replied in
the wrong place. I had originally asked about JAVA and whether we should
abandon it in web design...example...Hover Buttons which, because XP doesn't
support them, show up as x-in-a-box for more and more people. Then I
suggested Flash as a possible replacement. I was told that Java hover
buttons are cheesy and (paraphrase)Flash was worse....nobody wants all the
fancy tricks and showbiz stuff anymore...it's dumb silly crap...etc etc and
also that people don't want to have to download plug-ins. I tend to
agree...to a point.

I replied that I didn't think a simple button was cheesy and that Flash has
it's place on showbiz type web sites. I do a web site for a performer and
she wants a "showbiz" type site. I also want to create an interactive menu
where samples of our product show up in a panel on the right as the mouse
passes over the menu item for that category. It THAT Cheezy or silly
showbiz. I think it's convenient.

So...the bottom line is...can I do that WITHOUT Flash or a similar plug-in?

Alex

You will need to locate a JavaScript image swapping script to accomplish what you want. Flash would
not be the way to got with this.

--
==============================================
Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
WEBMASTER Resources(tm)
http://www.ycoln-resources.com
FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
==============================================
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"Smart-Alex" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:J%Pad.24956$(E-Mail Removed)...
> Sorry...for the being out of sequence. I 'm new to Newsgroups and replied in
> the wrong place. I had originally asked about JAVA and whether we should
> abandon it in web design...example...Hover Buttons which, because XP doesn't
> support them, show up as x-in-a-box for more and more people. Then I
> suggested Flash as a possible replacement. I was told that Java hover
> buttons are cheesy and (paraphrase)Flash was worse....nobody wants all the
> fancy tricks and showbiz stuff anymore...it's dumb silly crap...etc etc and
> also that people don't want to have to download plug-ins. I tend to
> agree...to a point.
>
> I replied that I didn't think a simple button was cheesy and that Flash has
> it's place on showbiz type web sites. I do a web site for a performer and
> she wants a "showbiz" type site. I also want to create an interactive menu
> where samples of our product show up in a panel on the right as the mouse
> passes over the menu item for that category. It THAT Cheezy or silly
> showbiz. I think it's convenient.
>
> So...the bottom line is...can I do that WITHOUT Flash or a similar plug-in?
>
> Alex
>
>

QUE? A what???.... any clues as where I even start to find this?
Alex


"Thomas A. Rowe" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> You will need to locate a JavaScript image swapping script to accomplish
> what you want. Flash would
> not be the way to got with this.
>
> --
> ==============================================
> Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
> WEBMASTER Resources(tm)
> http://www.ycoln-resources.com
> FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
> ==============================================
> To assist you in getting the best answers for FrontPage support see:
> http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
>
> "Smart-Alex" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:J%Pad.24956$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Sorry...for the being out of sequence. I 'm new to Newsgroups and replied
>> in
>> the wrong place. I had originally asked about JAVA and whether we should
>> abandon it in web design...example...Hover Buttons which, because XP
>> doesn't
>> support them, show up as x-in-a-box for more and more people. Then I
>> suggested Flash as a possible replacement. I was told that Java hover
>> buttons are cheesy and (paraphrase)Flash was worse....nobody wants all
>> the
>> fancy tricks and showbiz stuff anymore...it's dumb silly crap...etc etc
>> and
>> also that people don't want to have to download plug-ins. I tend to
>> agree...to a point.
>>
>> I replied that I didn't think a simple button was cheesy and that Flash
>> has
>> it's place on showbiz type web sites. I do a web site for a performer and
>> she wants a "showbiz" type site. I also want to create an interactive
>> menu
>> where samples of our product show up in a panel on the right as the mouse
>> passes over the menu item for that category. It THAT Cheezy or silly
>> showbiz. I think it's convenient.
>>
>> So...the bottom line is...can I do that WITHOUT Flash or a similar
>> plug-in?
>>
>> Alex
>>
>>
>
>

It can be done with DHTML (Javascript, CSS, DOM).
If you have FP2003 it has inbuilt support for creating this and FP2002
to a lesser extent.

Regards Jens Peter Karlsen. Microsoft MVP - Frontpage.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Smart-Alex [private.php?do=newpm&u=]
> Posted At: 12. oktober 2004 14:22
> Posted To: microsoft.public.frontpage.client
> Conversation: Cheezy Encore
> Subject: Cheezy Encore
>
>
> Sorry...for the being out of sequence. I 'm new to Newsgroups
> and replied in the wrong place. I had originally asked about
> JAVA and whether we should abandon it in web
> design...example...Hover Buttons which, because XP doesn't
> support them, show up as x-in-a-box for more and more people.
> Then I suggested Flash as a possible replacement. I was told
> that Java hover buttons are cheesy and (paraphrase)Flash was
> worse....nobody wants all the fancy tricks and showbiz stuff
> anymore...it's dumb silly crap...etc etc and also that people
> don't want to have to download plug-ins. I tend to agree...to a point.
>
> I replied that I didn't think a simple button was cheesy and
> that Flash has it's place on showbiz type web sites. I do a
> web site for a performer and she wants a "showbiz" type site.
> I also want to create an interactive menu where samples of
> our product show up in a panel on the right as the mouse
> passes over the menu item for that category. It THAT Cheezy
> or silly showbiz. I think it's convenient.
>
> So...the bottom line is...can I do that WITHOUT Flash or a
> similar plug-in?
>
> Alex
>
>

Hi,

If it suits your audience then go for it. I would not use Java Applets anymore however.

--
Mike -- FrontPage MVP '97-'02
J-Bots 2004 Released Special Pricing
http://www.websunlimited.com
FrontPage Add-ins Since '97 FP 2003 / 2002 / 2000 Compatible

"Smart-Alex" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:J%Pad.24956$(E-Mail Removed)...
> Sorry...for the being out of sequence. I 'm new to Newsgroups and replied in
> the wrong place. I had originally asked about JAVA and whether we should
> abandon it in web design...example...Hover Buttons which, because XP doesn't
> support them, show up as x-in-a-box for more and more people. Then I
> suggested Flash as a possible replacement. I was told that Java hover
> buttons are cheesy and (paraphrase)Flash was worse....nobody wants all the
> fancy tricks and showbiz stuff anymore...it's dumb silly crap...etc etc and
> also that people don't want to have to download plug-ins. I tend to
> agree...to a point.
>
> I replied that I didn't think a simple button was cheesy and that Flash has
> it's place on showbiz type web sites. I do a web site for a performer and
> she wants a "showbiz" type site. I also want to create an interactive menu
> where samples of our product show up in a panel on the right as the mouse
> passes over the menu item for that category. It THAT Cheezy or silly
> showbiz. I think it's convenient.
>
> So...the bottom line is...can I do that WITHOUT Flash or a similar plug-in?
>
> Alex
>
>

Re: Cheezy EncoreThank You. I do have FP2003....so I will ramp up my learning curve

"Jens Peter Karlsen[FP MVP]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:uAG$(E-Mail Removed)...
It can be done with DHTML (Javascript, CSS, DOM).
If you have FP2003 it has inbuilt support for creating this and FP2002 to a lesser extent.

Regards Jens Peter Karlsen. Microsoft MVP - Frontpage.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Smart-Alex [private.php?do=newpm&u=]
> Posted At: 12. oktober 2004 14:22
> Posted To: microsoft.public.frontpage.client
> Conversation: Cheezy Encore
> Subject: Cheezy Encore
>
>
> Sorry...for the being out of sequence. I 'm new to Newsgroups
> and replied in the wrong place. I had originally asked about
> JAVA and whether we should abandon it in web
> design...example...Hover Buttons which, because XP doesn't
> support them, show up as x-in-a-box for more and more people.
> Then I suggested Flash as a possible replacement. I was told
> that Java hover buttons are cheesy and (paraphrase)Flash was
> worse....nobody wants all the fancy tricks and showbiz stuff
> anymore...it's dumb silly crap...etc etc and also that people
> don't want to have to download plug-ins. I tend to agree...to a point.
>
> I replied that I didn't think a simple button was cheesy and
> that Flash has it's place on showbiz type web sites. I do a
> web site for a performer and she wants a "showbiz" type site.
> I also want to create an interactive menu where samples of
> our product show up in a panel on the right as the mouse
> passes over the menu item for that category. It THAT Cheezy
> or silly showbiz. I think it's convenient.
>
> So...the bottom line is...can I do that WITHOUT Flash or a
> similar plug-in?
>
> Alex
>
>

Google for it and you'll find many hits.

--
===
Tom "Pepper" Willett
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
---
About FrontPage 2003:
http://office.microsoft.com/home/off...tid=FX01085802
FrontPage 2003 Product Information:
http://www.microsoft.com/office/fron...o/default.mspx
Understanding FrontPage:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/office/und...ing/frontpage/
FrontPage 2002 Server Extensions Support Center:
http://support.microsoft.com/default...h;en-us;fp10se
===
"Smart-Alex" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:e%Qad.19636$(E-Mail Removed)...
| QUE? A what???.... any clues as where I even start to find this?
| Alex
|
|
| "Thomas A. Rowe" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
| news:(E-Mail Removed)...
| > You will need to locate a JavaScript image swapping script to accomplish
| > what you want. Flash would
| > not be the way to got with this.
| >
| > --
| > ==============================================
| > Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
| > WEBMASTER Resources(tm)
| > http://www.ycoln-resources.com
| > FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
| > ==============================================
| > To assist you in getting the best answers for FrontPage support see:
| > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| >
| > "Smart-Alex" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
| > news:J%Pad.24956$(E-Mail Removed)...
| >> Sorry...for the being out of sequence. I 'm new to Newsgroups and
replied
| >> in
| >> the wrong place. I had originally asked about JAVA and whether we
should
| >> abandon it in web design...example...Hover Buttons which, because XP
| >> doesn't
| >> support them, show up as x-in-a-box for more and more people. Then I
| >> suggested Flash as a possible replacement. I was told that Java hover
| >> buttons are cheesy and (paraphrase)Flash was worse....nobody wants all
| >> the
| >> fancy tricks and showbiz stuff anymore...it's dumb silly crap...etc etc
| >> and
| >> also that people don't want to have to download plug-ins. I tend to
| >> agree...to a point.
| >>
| >> I replied that I didn't think a simple button was cheesy and that Flash
| >> has
| >> it's place on showbiz type web sites. I do a web site for a performer
and
| >> she wants a "showbiz" type site. I also want to create an interactive
| >> menu
| >> where samples of our product show up in a panel on the right as the
mouse
| >> passes over the menu item for that category. It THAT Cheezy or silly
| >> showbiz. I think it's convenient.
| >>
| >> So...the bottom line is...can I do that WITHOUT Flash or a similar
| >> plug-in?
| >>
| >> Alex
| >>
| >>
| >
| >
|
|

Go to www.dynamicdrive.com for starters.
ETC
"Smart-Alex" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:J%Pad.24956$(E-Mail Removed)...
> Sorry...for the being out of sequence. I 'm new to Newsgroups and replied
in
> the wrong place. I had originally asked about JAVA and whether we should
> abandon it in web design...example...Hover Buttons which, because XP
doesn't
> support them, show up as x-in-a-box for more and more people. Then I
> suggested Flash as a possible replacement. I was told that Java hover
> buttons are cheesy and (paraphrase)Flash was worse....nobody wants all the
> fancy tricks and showbiz stuff anymore...it's dumb silly crap...etc etc
and
> also that people don't want to have to download plug-ins. I tend to
> agree...to a point.
>
> I replied that I didn't think a simple button was cheesy and that Flash
has
> it's place on showbiz type web sites. I do a web site for a performer and
> she wants a "showbiz" type site. I also want to create an interactive menu
> where samples of our product show up in a panel on the right as the mouse
> passes over the menu item for that category. It THAT Cheezy or silly
> showbiz. I think it's convenient.
>
> So...the bottom line is...can I do that WITHOUT Flash or a similar
plug-in?
>
> Alex
>
>

Take a look at behaviors.

Regards Jens Peter Karlsen. Microsoft MVP - Frontpage.



________________________________

From: Smart-Alex [private.php?do=newpm&u=]
Posted At: 12. oktober 2004 15:54
Posted To: microsoft.public.frontpage.client
Conversation: Cheezy Encore
Subject: Re: Cheezy Encore


Thank You. I do have FP2003....so I will ramp up my learning
curve


"Jens Peter Karlsen[FP MVP]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote
in message news:uAG$(E-Mail Removed)...

It can be done with DHTML (Javascript, CSS, DOM).
If you have FP2003 it has inbuilt support for creating
this and FP2002 to a lesser extent.

Regards Jens Peter Karlsen. Microsoft MVP - Frontpage.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Smart-Alex [private.php?do=newpm&u=]
> Posted At: 12. oktober 2004 14:22
> Posted To: microsoft.public.frontpage.client
> Conversation: Cheezy Encore
> Subject: Cheezy Encore
>
>
> Sorry...for the being out of sequence. I 'm new to
Newsgroups
> and replied in the wrong place. I had originally asked
about
> JAVA and whether we should abandon it in web
> design...example...Hover Buttons which, because XP
doesn't
> support them, show up as x-in-a-box for more and more
people.
> Then I suggested Flash as a possible replacement. I
was told
> that Java hover buttons are cheesy and
(paraphrase)Flash was
> worse....nobody wants all the fancy tricks and showbiz
stuff
> anymore...it's dumb silly crap...etc etc and also that
people
> don't want to have to download plug-ins. I tend to
agree...to a point.
>
> I replied that I didn't think a simple button was
cheesy and
> that Flash has it's place on showbiz type web sites. I
do a
> web site for a performer and she wants a "showbiz"
type site.
> I also want to create an interactive menu where
samples of
> our product show up in a panel on the right as the
mouse
> passes over the menu item for that category. It THAT
Cheezy
> or silly showbiz. I think it's convenient.
>
> So...the bottom line is...can I do that WITHOUT Flash
or a
> similar plug-in?
>
> Alex
>
>

Frontpage 2002 can do hover-buttons for you. I don't know if 2003 does, or
whether its interactive buttons replaced the DHTML image swap buttons in FP 2002.

An image-swap is what you're after (the same thing you are wanting to do with
Flash), when a user hovers the mouse over the image, another image loads. When
the user moves the mouse off the button, the original image is again displayed.

It can be accomplished with javascript which is a scripting language which is
embedded in html documents or external file.

try these sites

www.javascript.internet.com
www.hotscripts.com

Google for "hover button script" or "Image Swap script".



"Smart-Alex" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:e%Qad.19636$(E-Mail Removed)...
> QUE? A what???.... any clues as where I even start to find this?
> Alex
>
>
> "Thomas A. Rowe" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > You will need to locate a JavaScript image swapping script to accomplish
> > what you want. Flash would
> > not be the way to got with this.
> >
> > --
> > ==============================================
> > Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
> > WEBMASTER Resources(tm)
> > http://www.ycoln-resources.com
> > FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
> > ==============================================
> > To assist you in getting the best answers for FrontPage support see:
> > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
> >
> > "Smart-Alex" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:J%Pad.24956$(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> Sorry...for the being out of sequence. I 'm new to Newsgroups and replied
> >> in
> >> the wrong place. I had originally asked about JAVA and whether we should
> >> abandon it in web design...example...Hover Buttons which, because XP
> >> doesn't
> >> support them, show up as x-in-a-box for more and more people. Then I
> >> suggested Flash as a possible replacement. I was told that Java hover
> >> buttons are cheesy and (paraphrase)Flash was worse....nobody wants all
> >> the
> >> fancy tricks and showbiz stuff anymore...it's dumb silly crap...etc etc
> >> and
> >> also that people don't want to have to download plug-ins. I tend to
> >> agree...to a point.
> >>
> >> I replied that I didn't think a simple button was cheesy and that Flash
> >> has
> >> it's place on showbiz type web sites. I do a web site for a performer and
> >> she wants a "showbiz" type site. I also want to create an interactive
> >> menu
> >> where samples of our product show up in a panel on the right as the mouse
> >> passes over the menu item for that category. It THAT Cheezy or silly
> >> showbiz. I think it's convenient.
> >>
> >> So...the bottom line is...can I do that WITHOUT Flash or a similar
> >> plug-in?
> >>
> >> Alex
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>