Hi,
The query may sound bit crazy,
I am just eager to know if there
is a method to check if the
programs are executed in
desired sequence during the
startup of the windows without
actually restarting windows ?

Should i need to restart for
sure to check it ?

Thx in advans,
Karthik Balaguru

personally, I think that you can't
figure out which programs start
in a certain order.

perhaps the order of the icons
next to the clock may provide
some idea.

however, you can manipulate
the order if you need to.

keep in mind that you have
a startup folder under programs.

by moving programs to it, they
will launch after the auto runs
found in the msconfig.

then to launch programs after
those in the startup, you can
manually start them.

so as you can see by the above
there are three levels in which
programs can be executed.

1) via msconfig
2) via the startup folder
3) manually

incidentally, there is a utility
that can help view the auto runs
that occur at login.

it is called "autoruns" and can
be downloaded from microsoft.com


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"karthikbalaguru" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:a0555366-0e87-4668-a20b-(E-Mail Removed)...
> Hi,
> The query may sound bit crazy,
> I am just eager to know if there
> is a method to check if the
> programs are executed in
> desired sequence during the
> startup of the windows without
> actually restarting windows ?
>
> Should i need to restart for
> sure to check it ?
>
> Thx in advans,
> Karthik Balaguru

karthikbalaguru wrote:
> Hi,
> The query may sound bit crazy,
> I am just eager to know if there
> is a method to check if the
> programs are executed in
> desired sequence during the
> startup of the windows without
> actually restarting windows ?
>
> Should i need to restart for
> sure to check it ?
>
> Thx in advans,
> Karthik Balaguru

There are several different locations from which Windows starts
programs. See http://windowsxp.mvps.org/Startup.htm

In general, you can't get things to start in a desired sequence unless
you do it yourself through a batch job or other utility, and even then,
many system applications are out of user control.



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On Jan 15, 10:23*pm, Lem <lemp40@unknownhost> wrote:
> karthikbalaguru wrote:
> > Hi,
> > The query may sound bit crazy,
> > I am just eager to know if there
> > is a method to check if the
> > programs are executed in
> > desired sequence during the
> > startup of the windows without
> > actually restarting windows ?
>
> > Should i need to restart for
> > sure to check it ?
>
> > Thx in advans,
> > Karthik Balaguru
>
> There are several different locations from which Windows starts
> programs. Seehttp://windowsxp.mvps.org/Startup.htm
>
> In general, you can't get things to start in a desired sequence unless
> you do it yourself through a batch job or other utility, and even then,
> many system applications are out of user control.
>

I agree that batch file is the best
approach to tell the sequence of
execution of the application in our
desired manner.

Yes, there are some other system
apps that might also get executed
inbetween :-( . How to track the
sequence of execution of various
apps/process during the windows
startup ?

But,do Windows autoruns or any other
tool provide the order of priority of
execution of the programs during the
startup of windows that would also
include the sytem apps in it ?
Any ideas ?

Thx in advans,
Karthik Balaguru

karthikbalaguru wrote:
> On Jan 15, 10:23 pm, Lem <lemp40@unknownhost> wrote:
>> karthikbalaguru wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> The query may sound bit crazy,
>>> I am just eager to know if there
>>> is a method to check if the
>>> programs are executed in
>>> desired sequence during the
>>> startup of the windows without
>>> actually restarting windows ?
>>
>>> Should i need to restart for
>>> sure to check it ?
>>
>>> Thx in advans,
>>> Karthik Balaguru
>>
>> There are several different locations from which Windows starts
>> programs. Seehttp://windowsxp.mvps.org/Startup.htm
>>
>> In general, you can't get things to start in a desired sequence
>> unless you do it yourself through a batch job or other utility, and
>> even then, many system applications are out of user control.
>>
>
> I agree that batch file is the best
> approach to tell the sequence of
> execution of the application in our
> desired manner.
>
> Yes, there are some other system
> apps that might also get executed
> inbetween :-( . How to track the
> sequence of execution of various
> apps/process during the windows
> startup ?

Perhaps enable boot logging from the start up menu?

"Starts while logging all the drivers and services that were loaded (or not
loaded) by the system to a file. This file is called ntbtlog.txt and it is
located in the %windir% directory. Safe Mode, Safe Mode with Networking, and
Safe Mode with Command Prompt add to the boot log a list of all the drivers
and services that are loaded. The boot log is useful in determining the
exact cause of system startup problems."

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On Jan 15, 11:44*pm, karthikbalaguru <karthikbalagur...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> On Jan 15, 10:23*pm, Lem <lemp40@unknownhost> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > karthikbalaguru wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > > The query may sound bit crazy,
> > > I am just eager to know if there
> > > is a method to check if the
> > > programs are executed in
> > > desired sequence during the
> > > startup of the windows without
> > > actually restarting windows ?
>
> > > Should i need to restart for
> > > sure to check it ?
>
> > > Thx in advans,
> > > Karthik Balaguru
>
> > There are several different locations from which Windows starts
> > programs. Seehttp://windowsxp.mvps.org/Startup.htm
>
> > In general, you can't get things to start in a desired sequence unless
> > you do it yourself through a batch job or other utility, and even then,
> > many system applications are out of user control.
>
> I agree that batch file is the best
> approach to tell the sequence of
> execution of the application in our
> desired manner.
>
> Yes, there are some other system
> apps that might also get executed
> inbetween :-( . How to track the
> sequence of execution of various
> apps/process during the windows
> startup ?
>

I checked the below link(autoruns) -
http://technet.microsoft.com/hi-in/sysinternals/bb963902(en-us).aspx

It seems that it is not required to
use msconfig or edit Windows Registry
to edit modify any of the stuff.

It shows the programs that are
configured to run during system
bootup or login.

autoruns has a -l option(Logon startups
by default) that can be used to log
the sequence of programs that startup.

> But,do Windows autoruns or any other
> tool provide the order of priority of
> execution of the programs during the
> startup of windows that would also
> include the sytem apps in it ?
> Any ideas ?
>

I got the below link regd this -
http://www.windowsreference.com/free...-pc-or-server/
It seems that it shows the entries
in the order Windows processes
them :-)
These programs include those in the
startup folder, Run, RunOnce, and
other Registry keys.

But, not sure if it gives a list of
system apps that get called
in between ( that are out of
user control ) ! Any ideas ?

Karthik Balaguru

On Jan 16, 12:15*am, "dadiOH" <dad...@invalid.com> wrote:
> karthikbalaguru wrote:
> > On Jan 15, 10:23 pm, Lem <lemp40@unknownhost> wrote:
> >> karthikbalaguru wrote:
> >>> Hi,
> >>> The query may sound bit crazy,
> >>> I am just eager to know if there
> >>> is a method to check if the
> >>> programs are executed in
> >>> desired sequence during the
> >>> startup of the windows without
> >>> actually restarting windows ?
>
> >>> Should i need to restart for
> >>> sure to check it ?
>
> >>> Thx in advans,
> >>> Karthik Balaguru
>
> >> There are several different locations from which Windows starts
> >> programs. Seehttp://windowsxp.mvps.org/Startup.htm
>
> >> In general, you can't get things to start in a desired sequence
> >> unless you do it yourself through a batch job or other utility, and
> >> even then, many system applications are out of user control.
>
> > I agree that batch file is the best
> > approach to tell the sequence of
> > execution of the application in our
> > desired manner.
>
> > Yes, there are some other system
> > apps that might also get executed
> > inbetween :-( . How to track the
> > sequence of execution of various
> > apps/process during the windows
> > startup ?
>
> Perhaps enable boot logging from the start up menu?
>
> "Starts while logging all the drivers and services that were loaded (or not
> loaded) by the system to a file. This file is called ntbtlog.txt and it is
> located in the %windir% directory. Safe Mode, Safe Mode with Networking, and
> Safe Mode with Command Prompt add to the boot log a list of all the drivers
> and services that are loaded. The boot log is useful in determining the
> exact cause of system startup problems."
>

Great !
Log is surely a way to analyze
and understand the sequence !

1. Based on your post, i searched
the internet regd bootlog anlalyzer
and got the below link -
http://www.greatis.com/webhelp/regru...g_analyser.htm

But, it does not seem to convey
the order of priority of system
apps(Not under user control)
during boot up .

2. I came across the below link,
http://www.greatis.com/utilities/bootlogxp/
In the above link, Boot Log XP
creates a new boot log file and
allows you to view it visually !

I think the above tool (Boot Log XP)
lists the priority of execution(during
windows startup/boot process) of
all the programs including the system
apps that are not under user control.

Thx in advans,
Karthik Balaguru

karthikbalaguru wrote:

> I got the below link regd this -
> http://www.windowsreference.com/free...-pc-or-server/
> It seems that it shows the entries
> in the order Windows processes
> them :-)
> These programs include those in the
> startup folder, Run, RunOnce, and
> other Registry keys.
>
> But, not sure if it gives a list of
> system apps that get called
> in between ( that are out of
> user control ) ! Any ideas ?

Not me, I shot my wad with enabling boot logging

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