The default message view in Outlook 2003 is "Show in Groups". It's easy
enough to turn this off for a particular folder ... but, how do I change the
default, so that after setting up Outlook for the first time I don't then
have to go through each folder, one-at-a-time, turning off the "Show in
Groups" view?

Thanks,
FW

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"FW" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> The default message view in Outlook 2003 is "Show in Groups". It's easy
> enough to turn this off for a particular folder ... but, how do I change
the
> default, so that after setting up Outlook for the first time I don't then
> have to go through each folder, one-at-a-time, turning off the "Show in
> Groups" view?
>
> Thanks,
> FW
>
>

Thanks Roady. Would you mind cutting-and-pasting the text from Sue's
solution, as I'm not a subscriber to ntmag.

FW



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>
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html
>
> --
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>
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> "FW" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > The default message view in Outlook 2003 is "Show in Groups". It's easy
> > enough to turn this off for a particular folder ... but, how do I change
> the
> > default, so that after setting up Outlook for the first time I don't
then
> > have to go through each folder, one-at-a-time, turning off the "Show in
> > Groups" view?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > FW
> >
> >
>
>

Change the settings for the default view by name, not as current view. View,
Arrange By, find Define Views. Select Messages view and modify it. For best
results, before you change the view you need to start outlook with the
/cleanviews switch - at start menu, run, type outlook /cleanviews.

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Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide)

Outlook Tips: http://www.outlook-tips.net/

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"FW" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> The default message view in Outlook 2003 is "Show in Groups". It's easy
> enough to turn this off for a particular folder ... but, how do I change
the
> default, so that after setting up Outlook for the first time I don't then
> have to go through each folder, one-at-a-time, turning off the "Show in
> Groups" view?
>
> Thanks,
> FW
>
>

I posted a bunch of interface control ideas at http://www.slipstick.com/outlook/ol2003/interface.htm . I think the "classic" instructions might help with this.
--
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Outlook and Exchange solutions at http://www.slipstick.com
Author of
Microsoft Outlook Programming: Jumpstart
for Administrators, Power Users, and Developers
http://www.outlookcode.com/jumpstart.aspx


"FW" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> The default message view in Outlook 2003 is "Show in Groups". It's easy
> enough to turn this off for a particular folder ... but, how do I change the
> default, so that after setting up Outlook for the first time I don't then
> have to go through each folder, one-at-a-time, turning off the "Show in
> Groups" view?
>
> Thanks,
> FW
>
>

Diane,

Thanks, but I can only find 'Define Views' under 'Current View'. How do I
find the default view by name, so that I can follow your instructions?

FW




"Diane Poremsky [MVP]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Change the settings for the default view by name, not as current view.
View,
> Arrange By, find Define Views. Select Messages view and modify it. For
best
> results, before you change the view you need to start outlook with the
> /cleanviews switch - at start menu, run, type outlook /cleanviews.
>
> --
> Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
> Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
> Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide)
>
> Outlook Tips: http://www.outlook-tips.net/
>
> http://www.poremsky.com - http://www.cdolive.com
> Expert Zone http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>
> Search for answers: http://groups.google.com
> Most recent posts to the Outlook newsgroups:
>
http://groups.google.com/groups?as_u...tlook.*&num=30
>
>
> "FW" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > The default message view in Outlook 2003 is "Show in Groups". It's easy
> > enough to turn this off for a particular folder ... but, how do I change
> the
> > default, so that after setting up Outlook for the first time I don't
then
> > have to go through each folder, one-at-a-time, turning off the "Show in
> > Groups" view?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > FW
> >
> >
>
>

Hi Sue,

Thanks. I tried exactly what your article said, a few times, but
unfortunately this change only gets applied to the current folder being
viewed. As soon as I click onto another folder it's back to the unwanted
view again. This is the same problem I have with Diane's suggestion.

How do I reset the default view such that it applies to ALL existing and new
folders?

FW




"Sue Mosher [MVP]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
I posted a bunch of interface control ideas at
http://www.slipstick.com/outlook/ol2003/interface.htm . I think the
"classic" instructions might help with this.
--
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Outlook and Exchange solutions at http://www.slipstick.com
Author of
Microsoft Outlook Programming: Jumpstart
for Administrators, Power Users, and Developers
http://www.outlookcode.com/jumpstart.aspx


"FW" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> The default message view in Outlook 2003 is "Show in Groups". It's easy
> enough to turn this off for a particular folder ... but, how do I change
the
> default, so that after setting up Outlook for the first time I don't then
> have to go through each folder, one-at-a-time, turning off the "Show in
> Groups" view?
>
> Thanks,
> FW
>
>

View > Arrange by > Current View > Define Views brings up a dialog showing
all views for the folder. The first view is <current view>, followed by
views by name. Most people use Messages view since it's the default for new
folders. Select Messages and Modify, not <current view> even though Messages
= <current view>. When you change the <current view> selection it applies
only the current folder.

Views are easily "one-offed" so if you've changed some views already, close
outlook and reopen it from start menu run by typing

Outlook /cleanviews

before changing the views.

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"FW" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Diane,
>
> Thanks, but I can only find 'Define Views' under 'Current View'. How do I
> find the default view by name, so that I can follow your instructions?
>
> FW
>
>
>
>
> "Diane Poremsky [MVP]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Change the settings for the default view by name, not as current view.
> View,
> > Arrange By, find Define Views. Select Messages view and modify it. For
> best
> > results, before you change the view you need to start outlook with the
> > /cleanviews switch - at start menu, run, type outlook /cleanviews.
> >
> > --
> > Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
> > Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
> > Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide)
> >
> > Outlook Tips: http://www.outlook-tips.net/
> >
> > http://www.poremsky.com - http://www.cdolive.com
> > Expert Zone http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> >
> > Search for answers: http://groups.google.com
> > Most recent posts to the Outlook newsgroups:
> >
>
http://groups.google.com/groups?as_u...tlook.*&num=30
> >
> >
> > "FW" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > The default message view in Outlook 2003 is "Show in Groups". It's
easy
> > > enough to turn this off for a particular folder ... but, how do I
change
> > the
> > > default, so that after setting up Outlook for the first time I don't
> then
> > > have to go through each folder, one-at-a-time, turning off the "Show
in
> > > Groups" view?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > FW
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Diane,

Once again, thanks for your input. Unfortunately, what you suggest does not
actually work. This is what I was doing already, but any modifications made
to this view (via 'Messages' not 'current view') do not get applied to new
folders. I have tried using the cleanviews switch, then applying the
modification, and then look at existing folders and new folders. They do not
use the new setting.

Another bug in Outlook 2003.

FW



"Diane Poremsky [MVP]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:#hir4$(E-Mail Removed)...
> View > Arrange by > Current View > Define Views brings up a dialog
showing
> all views for the folder. The first view is <current view>, followed by
> views by name. Most people use Messages view since it's the default for
new
> folders. Select Messages and Modify, not <current view> even though
Messages
> = <current view>. When you change the <current view> selection it applies
> only the current folder.
>
> Views are easily "one-offed" so if you've changed some views already,
close
> outlook and reopen it from start menu run by typing
>
> Outlook /cleanviews
>
> before changing the views.
>
> --
>
> "FW" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Diane,
> >
> > Thanks, but I can only find 'Define Views' under 'Current View'. How do
I
> > find the default view by name, so that I can follow your instructions?
> >
> > FW
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Diane Poremsky [MVP]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > Change the settings for the default view by name, not as current view.
> > View,
> > > Arrange By, find Define Views. Select Messages view and modify it. For
> > best
> > > results, before you change the view you need to start outlook with the
> > > /cleanviews switch - at start menu, run, type outlook /cleanviews.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
> > > Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
> > > Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide)
> > >
> > > Outlook Tips: http://www.outlook-tips.net/
> > >
> > > http://www.poremsky.com - http://www.cdolive.com
> > > Expert Zone http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> > >
> > > Search for answers: http://groups.google.com
> > > Most recent posts to the Outlook newsgroups:
> > >
> >
>
http://groups.google.com/groups?as_u...tlook.*&num=30
> > >
> > >
> > > "FW" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > > The default message view in Outlook 2003 is "Show in Groups". It's
> easy
> > > > enough to turn this off for a particular folder ... but, how do I
> change
> > > the
> > > > default, so that after setting up Outlook for the first time I don't
> > then
> > > > have to go through each folder, one-at-a-time, turning off the "Show
> in
> > > > Groups" view?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > FW
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

I have a very similar question. Our company is getting ready to
deploy Outlook 2003 and I would like to make the default view appear
like out current version, Outlook 2002.

By using the Custom Installation Wizard I have customized most of my
options. However, I can not find a way to turn off the groups. I
would think that there must be a registry hack that would take care of
this.

Any suggestions?