Hi there

I need to change the file association for TIF images on all WinXP
workstations within my company. This is primarily due to the fact that
Windows Picture & Fax Viewer opens *ALL* files in a directory when you try
to print a file, and this has serious repercussions for me as I have ~4000 -
7000 files in a directory...

Anyway, I tried using tools such as ftype.exe and assoc.exe, and even
associate.exe from the resource kit... But I cannot seem to get it to work
properly.

With any other filetype it seems to work OK, but the Windows Picture & Fax
Viewer is a tricky application to "dis-associate". Any ideas??

Thanks
William R.

William Robertson wrote:

> Hi there
>
> I need to change the file association for TIF images on all WinXP
> workstations within my company. This is primarily due to the fact that
> Windows Picture & Fax Viewer opens *ALL* files in a directory when you
> try to print a file, and this has serious repercussions for me as I
> have ~4000 - 7000 files in a directory...
>
> Anyway, I tried using tools such as ftype.exe and assoc.exe, and even
> associate.exe from the resource kit... But I cannot seem to get it to
> work properly.
>
> With any other filetype it seems to work OK, but the Windows Picture &
> Fax Viewer is a tricky application to "dis-associate". Any ideas??
>
> Thanks
> William R.

With what program are you trying to associate .tif's? There should be no
problem associating .tif's with another image program if you have one
that handles .tif's. A nice free program is Irfanview from
www.irfanview.com.

In any case, right-click on a .tif and choose Open With and from their
Choose Program. Pick the program you want to have handle .tif's and
check the box at the bottom that says "always use".

Malke
--
Elephant Boy Computers
www.elephantboycomputers.com
"Don't Panic!"
MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User

Thanks Malke.
Irfan is exactly the application I want to use... but I need to do the
association "programmatically"... I.e. I want to fix all of this within a
Login Script, because there are just too many users to try and educate to do
this...

"Malke" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> William Robertson wrote:
>
>> Hi there
>>
>> I need to change the file association for TIF images on all WinXP
>> workstations within my company. This is primarily due to the fact that
>> Windows Picture & Fax Viewer opens *ALL* files in a directory when you
>> try to print a file, and this has serious repercussions for me as I
>> have ~4000 - 7000 files in a directory...
>>
>> Anyway, I tried using tools such as ftype.exe and assoc.exe, and even
>> associate.exe from the resource kit... But I cannot seem to get it to
>> work properly.
>>
>> With any other filetype it seems to work OK, but the Windows Picture &
>> Fax Viewer is a tricky application to "dis-associate". Any ideas??
>>
>> Thanks
>> William R.
>
> With what program are you trying to associate .tif's? There should be no
> problem associating .tif's with another image program if you have one
> that handles .tif's. A nice free program is Irfanview from
> www.irfanview.com.
>
> In any case, right-click on a .tif and choose Open With and from their
> Choose Program. Pick the program you want to have handle .tif's and
> check the box at the bottom that says "always use".
>
> Malke
> --
> Elephant Boy Computers
> www.elephantboycomputers.com
> "Don't Panic!"
> MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User

"William Robertson" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:8I-dnQ18guWNGqjeRVn-(E-Mail Removed)...
> Thanks Malke.
> Irfan is exactly the application I want to use... but I need to do the
> association "programmatically"... I.e. I want to fix all of this within a
> Login Script, because there are just too many users to try and educate to
> do this...
The method that Malke proposed associates whatever file viewer you wish with
a particular file type. This is in effect an assoication
"programmatically", and there is no need to educate your users about this
subject.
Jim
>
> "Malke" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> William Robertson wrote:
>>
>>> Hi there
>>>
>>> I need to change the file association for TIF images on all WinXP
>>> workstations within my company. This is primarily due to the fact that
>>> Windows Picture & Fax Viewer opens *ALL* files in a directory when you
>>> try to print a file, and this has serious repercussions for me as I
>>> have ~4000 - 7000 files in a directory...
>>>
>>> Anyway, I tried using tools such as ftype.exe and assoc.exe, and even
>>> associate.exe from the resource kit... But I cannot seem to get it to
>>> work properly.
>>>
>>> With any other filetype it seems to work OK, but the Windows Picture &
>>> Fax Viewer is a tricky application to "dis-associate". Any ideas??
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> William R.
>>
>> With what program are you trying to associate .tif's? There should be no
>> problem associating .tif's with another image program if you have one
>> that handles .tif's. A nice free program is Irfanview from
>> www.irfanview.com.
>>
>> In any case, right-click on a .tif and choose Open With and from their
>> Choose Program. Pick the program you want to have handle .tif's and
>> check the box at the bottom that says "always use".
>>
>> Malke
>> --
>> Elephant Boy Computers
>> www.elephantboycomputers.com
>> "Don't Panic!"
>> MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
>
>

William,

You're correct. Using the FType and changing the jpegfile\open does not
help. Simplest workaround is to create your own ProgID for jpegs.

Example:

ASSOC .JPG=IView
FTYPE IView="%Programfiles%\IrfanView\i_view32.exe" %1

IView is the new ProgID we've created. Tested and working fine.

--
Ramesh, Microsoft MVP
Windows XP Shell/User
http://windowsxp.mvps.org


"William Robertson" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:8I-dnQ18guWNGqjeRVn-(E-Mail Removed)...
> Thanks Malke.
> Irfan is exactly the application I want to use... but I need to do the
> association "programmatically"... I.e. I want to fix all of this within a
> Login Script, because there are just too many users to try and educate to
> do this...
>
> "Malke" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> William Robertson wrote:
>>
>>> Hi there
>>>
>>> I need to change the file association for TIF images on all WinXP
>>> workstations within my company. This is primarily due to the fact that
>>> Windows Picture & Fax Viewer opens *ALL* files in a directory when you
>>> try to print a file, and this has serious repercussions for me as I
>>> have ~4000 - 7000 files in a directory...
>>>
>>> Anyway, I tried using tools such as ftype.exe and assoc.exe, and even
>>> associate.exe from the resource kit... But I cannot seem to get it to
>>> work properly.
>>>
>>> With any other filetype it seems to work OK, but the Windows Picture &
>>> Fax Viewer is a tricky application to "dis-associate". Any ideas??
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> William R.
>>
>> With what program are you trying to associate .tif's? There should be no
>> problem associating .tif's with another image program if you have one
>> that handles .tif's. A nice free program is Irfanview from
>> www.irfanview.com.
>>
>> In any case, right-click on a .tif and choose Open With and from their
>> Choose Program. Pick the program you want to have handle .tif's and
>> check the box at the bottom that says "always use".
>>
>> Malke
>> --
>> Elephant Boy Computers
>> www.elephantboycomputers.com
>> "Don't Panic!"
>> MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
>
>

Hi Ramesh

Thanks for your effort. I think maybe my PC was a little wonky, as I had
already tried this to no avail, yet when I did it on a "clean" PC it worked
a little better...

All the ivons of my JPG and TIF files have now changed to that of IrfanView,
but when I doubleclick the files they still open within Windows Picture &
Fax Viewer.

I have read something about WP&FV which states that it is the "overall
default" of all image files. Do you think that I may need to remove this
"overall default" somehow?

Thanks
William R.

"Ramesh, MS-MVP" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> William,
>
> You're correct. Using the FType and changing the jpegfile\open does not
> help. Simplest workaround is to create your own ProgID for jpegs.
>
> Example:
>
> ASSOC .JPG=IView
> FTYPE IView="%Programfiles%\IrfanView\i_view32.exe" %1
>
> IView is the new ProgID we've created. Tested and working fine.
>
> --
> Ramesh, Microsoft MVP
> Windows XP Shell/User
> http://windowsxp.mvps.org
>
>
> "William Robertson" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:8I-dnQ18guWNGqjeRVn-(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Thanks Malke.
>> Irfan is exactly the application I want to use... but I need to do the
>> association "programmatically"... I.e. I want to fix all of this within a
>> Login Script, because there are just too many users to try and educate to
>> do this...
>>
>> "Malke" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> William Robertson wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi there
>>>>
>>>> I need to change the file association for TIF images on all WinXP
>>>> workstations within my company. This is primarily due to the fact that
>>>> Windows Picture & Fax Viewer opens *ALL* files in a directory when you
>>>> try to print a file, and this has serious repercussions for me as I
>>>> have ~4000 - 7000 files in a directory...
>>>>
>>>> Anyway, I tried using tools such as ftype.exe and assoc.exe, and even
>>>> associate.exe from the resource kit... But I cannot seem to get it to
>>>> work properly.
>>>>
>>>> With any other filetype it seems to work OK, but the Windows Picture &
>>>> Fax Viewer is a tricky application to "dis-associate". Any ideas??
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>> William R.
>>>
>>> With what program are you trying to associate .tif's? There should be no
>>> problem associating .tif's with another image program if you have one
>>> that handles .tif's. A nice free program is Irfanview from
>>> www.irfanview.com.
>>>
>>> In any case, right-click on a .tif and choose Open With and from their
>>> Choose Program. Pick the program you want to have handle .tif's and
>>> check the box at the bottom that says "always use".
>>>
>>> Malke
>>> --
>>> Elephant Boy Computers
>>> www.elephantboycomputers.com
>>> "Don't Panic!"
>>> MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
>>
>>
>

William,

So it does work in a clean install?

From one of the systems where it does not work properly, try this:

Download FileExtInfo.zip from here:
http://windowsxp.mvps.org/fileextinfo.htm

Unzip and run the tool. Select the .JPG type from the list and create a
report. Post the entire information here.

--
Ramesh, Microsoft MVP
Windows XP Shell/User
http://windowsxp.mvps.org


"William Robertson" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:-eCdnW84uskh06veRVn-(E-Mail Removed)...
> Hi Ramesh
>
> Thanks for your effort. I think maybe my PC was a little wonky, as I had
> already tried this to no avail, yet when I did it on a "clean" PC it
> worked a little better...
>
> All the ivons of my JPG and TIF files have now changed to that of
> IrfanView, but when I doubleclick the files they still open within Windows
> Picture & Fax Viewer.
>
> I have read something about WP&FV which states that it is the "overall
> default" of all image files. Do you think that I may need to remove this
> "overall default" somehow?
>
> Thanks
> William R.
>
> "Ramesh, MS-MVP" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> William,
>>
>> You're correct. Using the FType and changing the jpegfile\open does not
>> help. Simplest workaround is to create your own ProgID for jpegs.
>>
>> Example:
>>
>> ASSOC .JPG=IView
>> FTYPE IView="%Programfiles%\IrfanView\i_view32.exe" %1
>>
>> IView is the new ProgID we've created. Tested and working fine.
>>
>> --
>> Ramesh, Microsoft MVP
>> Windows XP Shell/User
>> http://windowsxp.mvps.org
>>
>>
>> "William Robertson" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:8I-dnQ18guWNGqjeRVn-(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> Thanks Malke.
>>> Irfan is exactly the application I want to use... but I need to do the
>>> association "programmatically"... I.e. I want to fix all of this within
>>> a Login Script, because there are just too many users to try and educate
>>> to do this...
>>>
>>> "Malke" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>> William Robertson wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi there
>>>>>
>>>>> I need to change the file association for TIF images on all WinXP
>>>>> workstations within my company. This is primarily due to the fact that
>>>>> Windows Picture & Fax Viewer opens *ALL* files in a directory when you
>>>>> try to print a file, and this has serious repercussions for me as I
>>>>> have ~4000 - 7000 files in a directory...
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyway, I tried using tools such as ftype.exe and assoc.exe, and even
>>>>> associate.exe from the resource kit... But I cannot seem to get it to
>>>>> work properly.
>>>>>
>>>>> With any other filetype it seems to work OK, but the Windows Picture &
>>>>> Fax Viewer is a tricky application to "dis-associate". Any ideas??
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> William R.
>>>>
>>>> With what program are you trying to associate .tif's? There should be
>>>> no
>>>> problem associating .tif's with another image program if you have one
>>>> that handles .tif's. A nice free program is Irfanview from
>>>> www.irfanview.com.
>>>>
>>>> In any case, right-click on a .tif and choose Open With and from their
>>>> Choose Program. Pick the program you want to have handle .tif's and
>>>> check the box at the bottom that says "always use".
>>>>
>>>> Malke
>>>> --
>>>> Elephant Boy Computers
>>>> www.elephantboycomputers.com
>>>> "Don't Panic!"
>>>> MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

Hi Ramesh

I am having trouble with the .TIF files, so I haver used your utility
(BTW... Cool site!!!) and here is the extract:


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
FileExtInfo v1.0 - Log file
25/09/05 12:23:20 PM

Complete File association information for ---> .TIF
Useful for troubleshooting File association and other problems
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\.TIF]
"Content Type"="image/tiff"
@="IView"
"PerceivedType"="image"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\.TIF\MSPaper.Document]

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\.TIF\MSPaper.Document\ShellNew]

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\.TIF\OpenWithList]

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\.TIF\OpenWithList\ois.exe]
@=""

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\.TIF\OpenWithProgids]
"TIFImage.Document"=hex(0):

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\.TIF\PersistentHandler]
@="{6BE013B5-D"


[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\IView]

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\IView\Shell]

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\IView\Shell\Open]

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\IView\Shell\Open\Command]
@=hex(2):22,00,43,00,3a,00,5c,00,50,00,72,00,6f,00,67,00,72,00,61,00,6d,00,20,\
00,46,00,69,00,6c,00,65,00,73,00,5c,00,49,00,72,00,66,00,61,00,6e,00,56,00,\
69,00,65,00,77,00,5c,00,69,00,5f,00,76,00,69,00,65,00,77,00,33,00,32,00,2e,\
00,65,00,78,00,65,00,22,00,20,00,25,00,31,00,00,00


[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\SystemFileAssociations\.TIF]
"ImageOptionFlags"=dword:00000000


[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\SystemFileAssociations\image]
"TileInfo"="propimensions;Type;Size"
"InfoTip"="propimensions;WhenTaken;DocTitle;DocComments;CameraModel;Type;Size"
"Details"="prop:Name;Type;Dimensions;Size;Write"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\SystemFileAssociations\image\OpenWithList]

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\SystemFileAssociations\image\OpenWithList\MSPaint.exe]
@=""

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\SystemFileAssociations\image\OpenWithList\shimgvw.dll]
@=""

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\SystemFileAssociations\image\shell]

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\SystemFileAssociations\image\shell\edit]

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\SystemFileAssociations\image\shell\edit\command]
@=hex(2):22,00,25,00,73,00,79,00,73,00,74,00,65,00,6d,00,72,00,6f,00,6f,00,74,\
00,25,00,5c,00,73,00,79,00,73,00,74,00,65,00,6d,00,33,00,32,00,5c,00,6d,00,\
73,00,70,00,61,00,69,00,6e,00,74,00,2e,00,65,00,78,00,65,00,22,00,20,00,22,\
00,25,00,31,00,22,00,00,00

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\SystemFileAssociations\image\shell\print]

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\SystemFileAssociations\image\shell\print\command]
@=hex(2):72,00,75,00,6e,00,64,00,6c,00,6c,00,33,00,32,00,2e,00,65,00,78,00,65,\
00,20,00,25,00,53,00,79,00,73,00,74,00,65,00,6d,00,52,00,6f,00,6f,00,74,00,\
25,00,5c,00,73,00,79,00,73,00,74,00,65,00,6d,00,33,00,32,00,5c,00,73,00,68,\
00,69,00,6d,00,67,00,76,00,77,00,2e,00,64,00,6c,00,6c,00,2c,00,49,00,6d,00,\
61,00,67,00,65,00,56,00,69,00,65,00,77,00,5f,00,46,00,75,00,6c,00,6c,00,73,\
00,63,00,72,00,65,00,65,00,6e,00,20,00,25,00,31,00,00,00

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\SystemFileAssociations\image\shell\print\DropTarget]
"Clsid"="{60fd46de-f830-4894-a628-6fa81bc0190d}"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\SystemFileAssociations\image\ShellEx]

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\SystemFileAssociations\image\ShellEx\ContextMenuHandlers]

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\SystemFileAssociations\image\ShellEx\ContextMenuHandlers\ShellImagePreview]
@="{e84fda7c-1d6a-45f6-b725-cb260c236066}"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\SystemFileAssociations\image\ShellEx\PropertyHandler]
@="{eb9b1153-3b57-4e68-959a-a3266bc3d7fe}"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\SystemFileAssociations\image\ShellEx\{BB2E617C-0920-11d1-9A0B-00C04FC2D6C1}]
@="{3F30C968-480A-4C6C-862D-EFC0897BB84B}"


[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\FileExts\.TIF]
@=""
"Progid"="TIFImage.Document"

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\FileExts\.TIF\OpenWithList]
"a"="I_VIEW32.EXE"
"MRUList"="bdac"
"b"="mspaint.exe"
"c"="shimgvw.dll"
"d"="MSPVIEW.EXE"

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\FileExts\.TIF\OpenWithProgids]
"TIFImage.Document"=hex(0):
"MSPaper.Document"=hex(0):
"tiffile"=hex(0):
"IView"=hex(0):

Hi William,

That does not work because there is an override in place. (FileExts key).

After running the ASSOC and FType commands, you may want to execute two
commands as well (during user logon)

REG DELETE
"HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\FileExts\.TIF" /f
REG DELETE
"HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\FileExts\.JPG" /f

--
Ramesh, Microsoft MVP
Windows XP Shell/User
http://windowsxp.mvps.org


"William Robertson" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:cZadnTdRIs6T5qveRVn-(E-Mail Removed)...
> Hi Ramesh
>
> I am having trouble with the .TIF files, so I haver used your utility
> (BTW... Cool site!!!) and here is the extract:
>
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> FileExtInfo v1.0 - Log file
> 25/09/05 12:23:20 PM
>
> Complete File association information for ---> .TIF
> Useful for troubleshooting File association and other problems
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>
> [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\.TIF]
> "Content Type"="image/tiff"
> @="IView"
> "PerceivedType"="image"
>
> [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\.TIF\MSPaper.Document]
>
> [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\.TIF\MSPaper.Document\ShellNew]
>
> [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\.TIF\OpenWithList]
>
> [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\.TIF\OpenWithList\ois.exe]
> @=""

HAH!!! Genius!!!!
Thanks Ramesh, it now works just fine!!

Have a great day,
Cheers
William R.


"Ramesh, MS-MVP" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Hi William,
>
> That does not work because there is an override in place. (FileExts key).
>
> After running the ASSOC and FType commands, you may want to execute two
> commands as well (during user logon)
>
> REG DELETE
> "HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\FileExts\.TIF" /f
> REG DELETE
> "HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\FileExts\.JPG" /f
>
> --
> Ramesh, Microsoft MVP
> Windows XP Shell/User
> http://windowsxp.mvps.org
>
>
> "William Robertson" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:cZadnTdRIs6T5qveRVn-(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Hi Ramesh
>>
>> I am having trouble with the .TIF files, so I haver used your utility
>> (BTW... Cool site!!!) and here is the extract:
>>
>>
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> FileExtInfo v1.0 - Log file
>> 25/09/05 12:23:20 PM
>>
>> Complete File association information for ---> .TIF
>> Useful for troubleshooting File association and other problems
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>>
>> [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\.TIF]
>> "Content Type"="image/tiff"
>> @="IView"
>> "PerceivedType"="image"
>>
>> [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\.TIF\MSPaper.Document]
>>
>> [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\.TIF\MSPaper.Document\ShellNew]
>>
>> [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\.TIF\OpenWithList]
>>
>> [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\.TIF\OpenWithList\ois.exe]
>> @=""
>