I'm using
Windows Defender Version: 1.1.1593.0
Engine Version: 1.1.3007.0
Definition Version: 1.23.4050.0
OS: Windows XP SP2 with all essential hotfixes applied

In Software Explorer you can see the classification status for a number of
programs Defender recognizes. There is a button to Disable or Remove them
from this list. There is also an Enable button. However, this button is
greyed out for all programs. Why is this? Is there some way to activate this
button, so I can decide for myself if I would like to activate programs that
I trust?

Thanks for any assistance you can give me.

Hello Marcel,

Try a repair install from Control Panel > Add / Remove Programs > Windows
Defender > Click here for support information > Repair.

Please let us know how you fare after doing a repair install, and if it
resolves the issue, it shouldn't hurt.
- -- ---


FATE
There is no such thing as accident; it is fate misnamed.— Napoleon




"Marcel" wrote:

> I'm using
> Windows Defender Version: 1.1.1593.0
> Engine Version: 1.1.3007.0
> Definition Version: 1.23.4050.0
> OS: Windows XP SP2 with all essential hotfixes applied
>
> In Software Explorer you can see the classification status for a number of
> programs Defender recognizes. There is a button to Disable or Remove them
> from this list. There is also an Enable button. However, this button is
> greyed out for all programs. Why is this? Is there some way to activate this
> button, so I can decide for myself if I would like to activate programs that
> I trust?
>
> Thanks for any assistance you can give me.

Marcel;

If you first disable any of those programs shown in the Software Explorer,
at that point if you select and highlight the disabled program again,
Defender will let you (re)enable it. Give it a try.

--

Regards, Dave


Marcel wrote:
> I'm using
> Windows Defender Version: 1.1.1593.0
> Engine Version: 1.1.3007.0
> Definition Version: 1.23.4050.0
> OS: Windows XP SP2 with all essential hotfixes applied
>
> In Software Explorer you can see the classification status for a number
> of
> programs Defender recognizes. There is a button to Disable or Remove them
> from this list. There is also an Enable button. However, this button is
> greyed out for all programs. Why is this? Is there some way to activate
> this
> button, so I can decide for myself if I would like to activate programs
> that
> I trust?
>
> Thanks for any assistance you can give me.

You can't change the classification. You have to first "disable" something
before you can "enable" something. That is why it is greyed out.

"Marcel" wrote:

> I'm using
> Windows Defender Version: 1.1.1593.0
> Engine Version: 1.1.3007.0
> Definition Version: 1.23.4050.0
> OS: Windows XP SP2 with all essential hotfixes applied
>
> In Software Explorer you can see the classification status for a number of
> programs Defender recognizes. There is a button to Disable or Remove them
> from this list. There is also an Enable button. However, this button is
> greyed out for all programs. Why is this? Is there some way to activate this
> button, so I can decide for myself if I would like to activate programs that
> I trust?
>
> Thanks for any assistance you can give me.

Thanks, I see what you mean. So what you are saying is that Defender decides
what classification a program gets. The user has no influence on this? If
that is the case , it is not right. A user should have some say in the
matter...

"Mr Cat" wrote:

> You can't change the classification. You have to first "disable" something
> before you can "enable" something. That is why it is greyed out.
>
> "Marcel" wrote:
>
> > I'm using
> > Windows Defender Version: 1.1.1593.0
> > Engine Version: 1.1.3007.0
> > Definition Version: 1.23.4050.0
> > OS: Windows XP SP2 with all essential hotfixes applied
> >
> > In Software Explorer you can see the classification status for a number of
> > programs Defender recognizes. There is a button to Disable or Remove them
> > from this list. There is also an Enable button. However, this button is
> > greyed out for all programs. Why is this? Is there some way to activate this
> > button, so I can decide for myself if I would like to activate programs that
> > I trust?
> >
> > Thanks for any assistance you can give me.

Thanks for your answer. I have tried it, and it works like you say it does.
What I actually meant to ask, should probably have been: I want to change the
classification from "Not yet classified" to "Permitted", because some
programs have been at the first mentioned (not yet classified) for ages.

"Dave M" wrote:

> Marcel;
>
> If you first disable any of those programs shown in the Software Explorer,
> at that point if you select and highlight the disabled program again,
> Defender will let you (re)enable it. Give it a try.
>
> --
>
> Regards, Dave
>
>
> Marcel wrote:
> > I'm using
> > Windows Defender Version: 1.1.1593.0
> > Engine Version: 1.1.3007.0
> > Definition Version: 1.23.4050.0
> > OS: Windows XP SP2 with all essential hotfixes applied
> >
> > In Software Explorer you can see the classification status for a number
> > of
> > programs Defender recognizes. There is a button to Disable or Remove them
> > from this list. There is also an Enable button. However, this button is
> > greyed out for all programs. Why is this? Is there some way to activate
> > this
> > button, so I can decide for myself if I would like to activate programs
> > that
> > I trust?
> >
> > Thanks for any assistance you can give me.
>
>
>

It would be great to be able to change that, but it has never been
implemented. Having the software signed by the publisher seems to be the
only way it gets permitted.

--

Regards, Dave


Marcel wrote:
> Thanks for your answer. I have tried it, and it works like you say it
> does.
> What I actually meant to ask, should probably have been: I want to change
> the
> classification from "Not yet classified" to "Permitted", because some
> programs have been at the first mentioned (not yet classified) for ages.
>
> "Dave M" wrote:
>
>> Marcel;
>>
>> If you first disable any of those programs shown in the Software
>> Explorer,
>> at that point if you select and highlight the disabled program again,
>> Defender will let you (re)enable it. Give it a try.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Regards, Dave
>>
>>
>> Marcel wrote:
>>> I'm using
>>> Windows Defender Version: 1.1.1593.0
>>> Engine Version: 1.1.3007.0
>>> Definition Version: 1.23.4050.0
>>> OS: Windows XP SP2 with all essential hotfixes applied
>>>
>>> In Software Explorer you can see the classification status for a number
>>> of
>>> programs Defender recognizes. There is a button to Disable or Remove
>>> them
>>> from this list. There is also an Enable button. However, this button is
>>> greyed out for all programs. Why is this? Is there some way to activate
>>> this
>>> button, so I can decide for myself if I would like to activate programs
>>> that
>>> I trust?
>>>
>>> Thanks for any assistance you can give me.

The user does have some say, but it is indirect. Users who elect to report
choices via Spynet at either the basic or advanced level, influence the
classifications, as I understand it--but this is pretty indirect.

"Marcel" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:47FBA67A-4ED4-47FD-9DBD-(E-Mail Removed)...
> Thanks, I see what you mean. So what you are saying is that Defender
> decides
> what classification a program gets. The user has no influence on this? If
> that is the case , it is not right. A user should have some say in the
> matter...
>
> "Mr Cat" wrote:
>
>> You can't change the classification. You have to first "disable"
>> something
>> before you can "enable" something. That is why it is greyed out.
>>
>> "Marcel" wrote:
>>
>> > I'm using
>> > Windows Defender Version: 1.1.1593.0
>> > Engine Version: 1.1.3007.0
>> > Definition Version: 1.23.4050.0
>> > OS: Windows XP SP2 with all essential hotfixes applied
>> >
>> > In Software Explorer you can see the classification status for a number
>> > of
>> > programs Defender recognizes. There is a button to Disable or Remove
>> > them
>> > from this list. There is also an Enable button. However, this button is
>> > greyed out for all programs. Why is this? Is there some way to activate
>> > this
>> > button, so I can decide for myself if I would like to activate programs
>> > that
>> > I trust?
>> >
>> > Thanks for any assistance you can give me.

How do you turn off the notification "Windows has blocked some start up
programs"?
--
Give them nothing, but take from them Everything!


"Bill Sanderson" wrote:

> The user does have some say, but it is indirect. Users who elect to report
> choices via Spynet at either the basic or advanced level, influence the
> classifications, as I understand it--but this is pretty indirect.
>
> "Marcel" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:47FBA67A-4ED4-47FD-9DBD-(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Thanks, I see what you mean. So what you are saying is that Defender
> > decides
> > what classification a program gets. The user has no influence on this? If
> > that is the case , it is not right. A user should have some say in the
> > matter...
> >
> > "Mr Cat" wrote:
> >
> >> You can't change the classification. You have to first "disable"
> >> something
> >> before you can "enable" something. That is why it is greyed out.
> >>
> >> "Marcel" wrote:
> >>
> >> > I'm using
> >> > Windows Defender Version: 1.1.1593.0
> >> > Engine Version: 1.1.3007.0
> >> > Definition Version: 1.23.4050.0
> >> > OS: Windows XP SP2 with all essential hotfixes applied
> >> >
> >> > In Software Explorer you can see the classification status for a number
> >> > of
> >> > programs Defender recognizes. There is a button to Disable or Remove
> >> > them
> >> > from this list. There is also an Enable button. However, this button is
> >> > greyed out for all programs. Why is this? Is there some way to activate
> >> > this
> >> > button, so I can decide for myself if I would like to activate programs
> >> > that
> >> > I trust?
> >> >
> >> > Thanks for any assistance you can give me.
>
>

Dave M or anyone,

I tried disabling and enabling a program from Seagate that loads at startup,
but cannot get it to change status from "Not Yet Determined". Any other
thoughts/suggestions?

Norman



"Dave M" wrote:

> Marcel;
>
> If you first disable any of those programs shown in the Software Explorer,
> at that point if you select and highlight the disabled program again,
> Defender will let you (re)enable it. Give it a try.
>
> --
>
> Regards, Dave
>
>
> Marcel wrote:
> > I'm using
> > Windows Defender Version: 1.1.1593.0
> > Engine Version: 1.1.3007.0
> > Definition Version: 1.23.4050.0
> > OS: Windows XP SP2 with all essential hotfixes applied
> >
> > In Software Explorer you can see the classification status for a number
> > of
> > programs Defender recognizes. There is a button to Disable or Remove them
> > from this list. There is also an Enable button. However, this button is
> > greyed out for all programs. Why is this? Is there some way to activate
> > this
> > button, so I can decide for myself if I would like to activate programs
> > that
> > I trust?
> >
> > Thanks for any assistance you can give me.
>
>
>