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      11th May 2007
Hi, my name is Ben. Recently, I have a problem with Vista Ultimate. One of my
software that installed on my computer prevents Vista running properly. The
problem is Data Execution Prevention and the solution is turn the Data
Execution Prevention off. In Windows XP, I knew I should change the boot.ini
file with switch noexecute=AlwaysOff. Since Vista does not use boot.ini file,
what should I do to change the boot settings of Vista to turn off Data
Execution Prevention? Thank you very much!
 
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      11th May 2007
In article <16372EBC-229A-42CE-9C23-(E-Mail Removed)>, =?Utf-8?B?YmVuYmVuOTg4?= <(E-Mail Removed)> says...
> Hi, my name is Ben. Recently, I have a problem with Vista Ultimate. One of my
> software that installed on my computer prevents Vista running properly. The
> problem is Data Execution Prevention and the solution is turn the Data
> Execution Prevention off. In Windows XP, I knew I should change the boot.ini
> file with switch noexecute=AlwaysOff. Since Vista does not use boot.ini file,
> what should I do to change the boot settings of Vista to turn off Data
> Execution Prevention? Thank you very much!


Download and install the free VistaBootPro or EasyBCD.

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      11th May 2007
benben988 wrote:
> Hi, my name is Ben. Recently, I have a problem with Vista Ultimate. One of my
> software that installed on my computer prevents Vista running properly. The
> problem is Data Execution Prevention and the solution is turn the Data
> Execution Prevention off. In Windows XP, I knew I should change the boot.ini
> file with switch noexecute=AlwaysOff. Since Vista does not use boot.ini file,
> what should I do to change the boot settings of Vista to turn off Data
> Execution Prevention? Thank you very much!


Check John Barnett's web site:

http://vistasupport.mvps.org/disable...prevention.htm

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      11th May 2007
Not a good idea DEP is a security measure - concentrate on the application.


"benben988" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:16372EBC-229A-42CE-9C23-(E-Mail Removed)...
> Hi, my name is Ben. Recently, I have a problem with Vista Ultimate. One of
> my
> software that installed on my computer prevents Vista running properly.
> The
> problem is Data Execution Prevention and the solution is turn the Data
> Execution Prevention off. In Windows XP, I knew I should change the
> boot.ini
> file with switch noexecute=AlwaysOff. Since Vista does not use boot.ini
> file,
> what should I do to change the boot settings of Vista to turn off Data
> Execution Prevention? Thank you very much!



 
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Ronnie Vernon MVP
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      11th May 2007
Ben

You can leave Data Execution Prevention active and simply exclude that
program in the DEP settings.

Open Control Panel / System / Advanced System Settings. In the Performance
section, click the Settings Button. Open the Data Execution Prevention tab.

Select the option to "Turn on DEP for all programs and services except those
I select."

Click the ADD button. Navigate to the programs .exe file and select it.
Click Open. Click Apply/OK.

This should prevent DEP from interferring with the program.

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Microsoft MVP
Windows Shell/User


"benben988" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:16372EBC-229A-42CE-9C23-(E-Mail Removed)...
> Hi, my name is Ben. Recently, I have a problem with Vista Ultimate. One of
> my
> software that installed on my computer prevents Vista running properly.
> The
> problem is Data Execution Prevention and the solution is turn the Data
> Execution Prevention off. In Windows XP, I knew I should change the
> boot.ini
> file with switch noexecute=AlwaysOff. Since Vista does not use boot.ini
> file,
> what should I do to change the boot settings of Vista to turn off Data
> Execution Prevention? Thank you very much!


 
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      3rd Aug 2007


"Ronnie Vernon MVP" wrote:

> Ben
>
> You can leave Data Execution Prevention active and simply exclude that
> program in the DEP settings.
>
> Open Control Panel / System / Advanced System Settings. In the Performance
> section, click the Settings Button. Open the Data Execution Prevention tab.
>
> Select the option to "Turn on DEP for all programs and services except those
> I select."
>
> Click the ADD button. Navigate to the programs .exe file and select it.
> Click Open. Click Apply/OK.
>
> This should prevent DEP from interferring with the program.
>
> --
>
> Ronnie Vernon
> Microsoft MVP
> Windows Shell/User
>
>
> "benben988" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:16372EBC-229A-42CE-9C23-(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Hi, my name is Ben. Recently, I have a problem with Vista Ultimate. One of
> > my
> > software that installed on my computer prevents Vista running properly.
> > The
> > problem is Data Execution Prevention and the solution is turn the Data
> > Execution Prevention off. In Windows XP, I knew I should change the
> > boot.ini
> > file with switch noexecute=AlwaysOff. Since Vista does not use boot.ini
> > file,
> > what should I do to change the boot settings of Vista to turn off Data
> > Execution Prevention? Thank you very much!

>

---------------------------------------------

I have even more problems due to switching off DEP.
After doing so on Vista Home Premium by the bcedit command and a reboot
several programs refused to start. Errors and a help for DEP popped up.
So I wanted to switch on again DEP and it was succesfull. No way...after
reboot the same programs refused to start and looking on system, advanced on
the tab DEP all was grey....meaning I couldn't change anything.
With the help of a small utlity securable I saw that DEP was on and on
command prompt bcedit also said on.

Now.... lots of programs doesn't work anymore. Who can help me out with an
utility or by regeditor or whatever.

I have tried really everything...even secure mode and administrator etc. My
UAC is out...allways is and was.

Please who knows answers and solutions....for ever thanks and waiting
because the ultimate is than to re-install vista.

dimov000
 
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Ronnie Vernon MVP
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      6th Aug 2007
Dimov000

Go to the following website and take a look at the Startup Program Unblocker
utility that MVP Jimmy Brush put together. This may help.

How do I run an administrative program (that needs my permission to start)
every time I log in and prevent the "Windows has blocked some startup
programs" message?:
http://www.jimmah.com/vista/Administ...n_program.aspx

Startup Program Unblocker Online Help:
http://www.jimmah.com/vista/applicat...r_landing.aspx


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Microsoft MVP
Windows Shell/User


"dimov000" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:2938CD96-3B23-46FA-8E45-(E-Mail Removed)...
>
>
> "Ronnie Vernon MVP" wrote:
>
>> Ben
>>
>> You can leave Data Execution Prevention active and simply exclude that
>> program in the DEP settings.
>>
>> Open Control Panel / System / Advanced System Settings. In the
>> Performance
>> section, click the Settings Button. Open the Data Execution Prevention
>> tab.
>>
>> Select the option to "Turn on DEP for all programs and services except
>> those
>> I select."
>>
>> Click the ADD button. Navigate to the programs .exe file and select it.
>> Click Open. Click Apply/OK.
>>
>> This should prevent DEP from interferring with the program.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Ronnie Vernon
>> Microsoft MVP
>> Windows Shell/User
>>
>>
>> "benben988" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:16372EBC-229A-42CE-9C23-(E-Mail Removed)...
>> > Hi, my name is Ben. Recently, I have a problem with Vista Ultimate. One
>> > of
>> > my
>> > software that installed on my computer prevents Vista running properly.
>> > The
>> > problem is Data Execution Prevention and the solution is turn the Data
>> > Execution Prevention off. In Windows XP, I knew I should change the
>> > boot.ini
>> > file with switch noexecute=AlwaysOff. Since Vista does not use boot.ini
>> > file,
>> > what should I do to change the boot settings of Vista to turn off Data
>> > Execution Prevention? Thank you very much!

>>

> ---------------------------------------------
>
> I have even more problems due to switching off DEP.
> After doing so on Vista Home Premium by the bcedit command and a reboot
> several programs refused to start. Errors and a help for DEP popped up.
> So I wanted to switch on again DEP and it was succesfull. No way...after
> reboot the same programs refused to start and looking on system, advanced
> on
> the tab DEP all was grey....meaning I couldn't change anything.
> With the help of a small utlity securable I saw that DEP was on and on
> command prompt bcedit also said on.
>
> Now.... lots of programs doesn't work anymore. Who can help me out with an
> utility or by regeditor or whatever.
>
> I have tried really everything...even secure mode and administrator etc.
> My
> UAC is out...allways is and was.
>
> Please who knows answers and solutions....for ever thanks and waiting
> because the ultimate is than to re-install vista.
>
> dimov000


 
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      6th Aug 2007


"Ronnie Vernon MVP" wrote:

> Dimov000
>
> Go to the following website and take a look at the Startup Program Unblocker
> utility that MVP Jimmy Brush put together. This may help.
>
> How do I run an administrative program (that needs my permission to start)
> every time I log in and prevent the "Windows has blocked some startup
> programs" message?:
> http://www.jimmah.com/vista/Administ...n_program.aspx
>
> Startup Program Unblocker Online Help:
> http://www.jimmah.com/vista/applicat...r_landing.aspx
>
>
> --
>
> Ronnie Vernon
> Microsoft MVP
> Windows Shell/User
>
>
> "dimov000" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:2938CD96-3B23-46FA-8E45-(E-Mail Removed)...
> >
> >
> > "Ronnie Vernon MVP" wrote:
> >
> >> Ben
> >>
> >> You can leave Data Execution Prevention active and simply exclude that
> >> program in the DEP settings.
> >>
> >> Open Control Panel / System / Advanced System Settings. In the
> >> Performance
> >> section, click the Settings Button. Open the Data Execution Prevention
> >> tab.
> >>
> >> Select the option to "Turn on DEP for all programs and services except
> >> those
> >> I select."
> >>
> >> Click the ADD button. Navigate to the programs .exe file and select it.
> >> Click Open. Click Apply/OK.
> >>
> >> This should prevent DEP from interferring with the program.
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> Ronnie Vernon
> >> Microsoft MVP
> >> Windows Shell/User
> >>
> >>
> >> "benben988" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> >> news:16372EBC-229A-42CE-9C23-(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> > Hi, my name is Ben. Recently, I have a problem with Vista Ultimate. One
> >> > of
> >> > my
> >> > software that installed on my computer prevents Vista running properly.
> >> > The
> >> > problem is Data Execution Prevention and the solution is turn the Data
> >> > Execution Prevention off. In Windows XP, I knew I should change the
> >> > boot.ini
> >> > file with switch noexecute=AlwaysOff. Since Vista does not use boot.ini
> >> > file,
> >> > what should I do to change the boot settings of Vista to turn off Data
> >> > Execution Prevention? Thank you very much!
> >>

> > ---------------------------------------------
> >
> > I have even more problems due to switching off DEP.
> > After doing so on Vista Home Premium by the bcedit command and a reboot
> > several programs refused to start. Errors and a help for DEP popped up.
> > So I wanted to switch on again DEP and it was succesfull. No way...after
> > reboot the same programs refused to start and looking on system, advanced
> > on
> > the tab DEP all was grey....meaning I couldn't change anything.
> > With the help of a small utlity securable I saw that DEP was on and on
> > command prompt bcedit also said on.
> >
> > Now.... lots of programs doesn't work anymore. Who can help me out with an
> > utility or by regeditor or whatever.
> >
> > I have tried really everything...even secure mode and administrator etc.
> > My
> > UAC is out...allways is and was.
> >
> > Please who knows answers and solutions....for ever thanks and waiting
> > because the ultimate is than to re-install vista.
> >
> > dimov000

>
>

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First of all Vernon, thanks a lot.

But altough your program/ utlity you gave me and which is extremely helpful
it was not the answer to my problem. But I found myself a way out altough not
knowing what exactly happenend and so an explanation for those who have the
same problem.

Again

After switching off DEP with a bcdedit command, on advise of welknown
blogger, the DEP functionality inside vista....the total of DEP (was
gone....so switching on again was not possible anymore
Even within the system, avanced settings ,DEP was totally grey and no
changes possible.
Lots of programs refused to start.

I have only one user account, RCS which is administrator-privileged, and my
dosbox works as an administrator, but no succes.
My cmd command and dosbox where already by a tweak running as an
administrator.

So DEP was switched off and lots of programs where not running....coming up
with an error that the program had a problem and were shut off....and
microsoft would try to find a solution. This after a reboot.
So I switched DEP off and the same nasty problems kept on going.

The screens after rebooting came back 3 times.....and after that the help
popped up about the meaning of DEP.

Being a little worried I de-installed one little program and re-installed
it....but not working.

Again giving the bcdedit command I saw that DEP was switched on.... but
still the problems. As norton360 was one of the programs not starting it made
afraid to hop around on the web.

Then after half an hour thinking, so 1 1/2 day after switching off DEP and
switching on DEP.... without any results ...

I switched again DEP off....and checked out with the bcdedit command
.....result DEP was off.
Reboot and...believe it or not....all worked...and even the uninstalling en
reinstalling of one program was totally not found back.
So I was back in the situation before the adventure of DEP....really...even
changes otherwise where not done.

For me unbelievable and unrealistic.

Going to the DEP by the system and advanced settings...the dep was grey so
no changing possible. I do not try out again.....DEP is off and all works.
Only norton360 had to be re-installed and all is working fine.

The mistery is of course.....what happenend and why I came back in a kind of
system restore point of a minute before the bcdedit command to switch off DEP.

I am happy as can be that everything is ok....but still wondering
why....this strange things happen and what made the computer come back in
oroigin status.
I think that somewhere a bcdedit command is nor 100%.

Hopefully we learn from it....If you switch off DEP by bcdedit and having
problems then...switch it on, reboot and after thar again switch it off and
reboot. Check out by bcdedit iff it's AlwaysOff and reboot...and you are back
in business.

If anyone has a solution or explanation.....great.....

(note, Vista, 680Sli mobo, raid5 and JBOD, 4Gb memory, ATI Radeon 1650 Pro.)

Thanks

Dimov000
 
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