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Certain folders locking up Explorer after uninstalling Veritas Backup Exec

 
 
Tim Nichols
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      2nd Jun 2005
I have a server running Windows 2000 Server SP4 and Exchange Server 2003.
This server was also running Veritas Backup Exec 8.5, until yesterday when I
uninstalled this software and all agents. Instead of rebooting after each
agent was uninstalled, I waited and uninstalled all agents, then did one
reboot after business hours. After the server came back up, I have been
experiencing some strange behavior.

I can no longer open Control Panel. Doing so locks up the window without
displaying anything, and clicking close causes Windows to report that the
program is not responding, and explorer.exe is restarted. However, if I use
Windows Explorer to get to Control Panel by expanding the tree, and then
instead of displaying the contents of Control Panel open a subfolder, like
"Administrative Tools", then I can see the items and access them.

The same behavior is happening when browsing the C drive. I cannot view
Program Files, but I can view any subfolder either by expanding the tree, or
typing it into the Address bar.

Also, Windows Installer is not allowing me to do any kind of install, and
when I cannot stop and start services. Internet Explorer doesn't pull up
any web sites either, it just tries to locate the data. I cannot empty
recycle bin because it locks up when I open it.

Other than that, all the services are working fine, but obviously I need
these functionalities to properly administer my server. Does anyone know
what might be going on with it? I have never seen any behavior like this
before...I am wondering if a component in Windows was corrupted during the
uninstall...but I don't know where to begin. Any suggestions will be
greatly appreciated!

Tim Nichols
MCP


 
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George Hester
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      2nd Jun 2005
A shell hook was removed that Windows cannot live without anymore. The missing shell hook is why you get the hang, "Where are you shell hook? shell hook where are you? shell hook?" The only fix is to reisntall the op sys.

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George Hester
_______________________________
"Tim Nichols" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> I have a server running Windows 2000 Server SP4 and Exchange Server 2003.
> This server was also running Veritas Backup Exec 8.5, until yesterday when I
> uninstalled this software and all agents. Instead of rebooting after each
> agent was uninstalled, I waited and uninstalled all agents, then did one
> reboot after business hours. After the server came back up, I have been
> experiencing some strange behavior.
>
> I can no longer open Control Panel. Doing so locks up the window without
> displaying anything, and clicking close causes Windows to report that the
> program is not responding, and explorer.exe is restarted. However, if I use
> Windows Explorer to get to Control Panel by expanding the tree, and then
> instead of displaying the contents of Control Panel open a subfolder, like
> "Administrative Tools", then I can see the items and access them.
>
> The same behavior is happening when browsing the C drive. I cannot view
> Program Files, but I can view any subfolder either by expanding the tree, or
> typing it into the Address bar.
>
> Also, Windows Installer is not allowing me to do any kind of install, and
> when I cannot stop and start services. Internet Explorer doesn't pull up
> any web sites either, it just tries to locate the data. I cannot empty
> recycle bin because it locks up when I open it.
>
> Other than that, all the services are working fine, but obviously I need
> these functionalities to properly administer my server. Does anyone know
> what might be going on with it? I have never seen any behavior like this
> before...I am wondering if a component in Windows was corrupted during the
> uninstall...but I don't know where to begin. Any suggestions will be
> greatly appreciated!
>
> Tim Nichols
> MCP
>
>


 
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Tim Nichols
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      2nd Jun 2005
George-

Thanks for your fast response. Can I do a reinstall without having to
reformat? Would a repair fix the problem?

-Tim

"George Hester" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
A shell hook was removed that Windows cannot live without anymore. The
missing shell hook is why you get the hang, "Where are you shell hook?
shell hook where are you? shell hook?" The only fix is to reisntall the op
sys.

--
George Hester
_______________________________
"Tim Nichols" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> I have a server running Windows 2000 Server SP4 and Exchange Server 2003.
> This server was also running Veritas Backup Exec 8.5, until yesterday when
> I
> uninstalled this software and all agents. Instead of rebooting after each
> agent was uninstalled, I waited and uninstalled all agents, then did one
> reboot after business hours. After the server came back up, I have been
> experiencing some strange behavior.
>
> I can no longer open Control Panel. Doing so locks up the window without
> displaying anything, and clicking close causes Windows to report that the
> program is not responding, and explorer.exe is restarted. However, if I
> use
> Windows Explorer to get to Control Panel by expanding the tree, and then
> instead of displaying the contents of Control Panel open a subfolder, like
> "Administrative Tools", then I can see the items and access them.
>
> The same behavior is happening when browsing the C drive. I cannot view
> Program Files, but I can view any subfolder either by expanding the tree,
> or
> typing it into the Address bar.
>
> Also, Windows Installer is not allowing me to do any kind of install, and
> when I cannot stop and start services. Internet Explorer doesn't pull up
> any web sites either, it just tries to locate the data. I cannot empty
> recycle bin because it locks up when I open it.
>
> Other than that, all the services are working fine, but obviously I need
> these functionalities to properly administer my server. Does anyone know
> what might be going on with it? I have never seen any behavior like this
> before...I am wondering if a component in Windows was corrupted during the
> uninstall...but I don't know where to begin. Any suggestions will be
> greatly appreciated!
>
> Tim Nichols
> MCP
>
>



 
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George Hester
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      2nd Jun 2005
No. The shell hook is now a part of your Shell ie. Windows Explorer. You might try removing IE back to the original version then go back to what you have now. This will change Windows Explorer but as I said the hook is in the registry and Windows wants it. The change in IE will probably not fix that.

A repair won't work because as far as Windows is concerned that hook is necessary and right. A repair would only make sure the hook is installed correctly. It is it's just that the hook itself has been removed when you unistalled the software. The Veritas Backup site should have something on it as I am sure you are not the first this has happpened to. Another explanation of this is bad uninstaller by Veritas. But realize it may be the best they could do.

--
George Hester
_______________________________
"Tim Nichols" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> George-
>
> Thanks for your fast response. Can I do a reinstall without having to
> reformat? Would a repair fix the problem?
>
> -Tim
>
> "George Hester" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> A shell hook was removed that Windows cannot live without anymore. The
> missing shell hook is why you get the hang, "Where are you shell hook?
> shell hook where are you? shell hook?" The only fix is to reisntall the op
> sys.
>
> --
> George Hester
> _______________________________
> "Tim Nichols" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > I have a server running Windows 2000 Server SP4 and Exchange Server 2003.
> > This server was also running Veritas Backup Exec 8.5, until yesterday when
> > I
> > uninstalled this software and all agents. Instead of rebooting after each
> > agent was uninstalled, I waited and uninstalled all agents, then did one
> > reboot after business hours. After the server came back up, I have been
> > experiencing some strange behavior.
> >
> > I can no longer open Control Panel. Doing so locks up the window without
> > displaying anything, and clicking close causes Windows to report that the
> > program is not responding, and explorer.exe is restarted. However, if I
> > use
> > Windows Explorer to get to Control Panel by expanding the tree, and then
> > instead of displaying the contents of Control Panel open a subfolder, like
> > "Administrative Tools", then I can see the items and access them.
> >
> > The same behavior is happening when browsing the C drive. I cannot view
> > Program Files, but I can view any subfolder either by expanding the tree,
> > or
> > typing it into the Address bar.
> >
> > Also, Windows Installer is not allowing me to do any kind of install, and
> > when I cannot stop and start services. Internet Explorer doesn't pull up
> > any web sites either, it just tries to locate the data. I cannot empty
> > recycle bin because it locks up when I open it.
> >
> > Other than that, all the services are working fine, but obviously I need
> > these functionalities to properly administer my server. Does anyone know
> > what might be going on with it? I have never seen any behavior like this
> > before...I am wondering if a component in Windows was corrupted during the
> > uninstall...but I don't know where to begin. Any suggestions will be
> > greatly appreciated!
> >
> > Tim Nichols
> > MCP
> >
> >

>
>


 
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Tim Nichols
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      7th Jun 2005
George-

Do you think that if I did a System State restore from a good backup would
fix the problem? What about an in-place upgrade?

-Tim

"George Hester" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
No. The shell hook is now a part of your Shell ie. Windows Explorer. You
might try removing IE back to the original version then go back to what you
have now. This will change Windows Explorer but as I said the hook is in
the registry and Windows wants it. The change in IE will probably not fix
that.

A repair won't work because as far as Windows is concerned that hook is
necessary and right. A repair would only make sure the hook is installed
correctly. It is it's just that the hook itself has been removed when you
unistalled the software. The Veritas Backup site should have something on
it as I am sure you are not the first this has happpened to. Another
explanation of this is bad uninstaller by Veritas. But realize it may be
the best they could do.

--
George Hester
_______________________________
"Tim Nichols" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> George-
>
> Thanks for your fast response. Can I do a reinstall without having to
> reformat? Would a repair fix the problem?
>
> -Tim
>
> "George Hester" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> A shell hook was removed that Windows cannot live without anymore. The
> missing shell hook is why you get the hang, "Where are you shell hook?
> shell hook where are you? shell hook?" The only fix is to reisntall the
> op
> sys.
>
> --
> George Hester
> _______________________________
> "Tim Nichols" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > I have a server running Windows 2000 Server SP4 and Exchange Server
> > 2003.
> > This server was also running Veritas Backup Exec 8.5, until yesterday
> > when
> > I
> > uninstalled this software and all agents. Instead of rebooting after
> > each
> > agent was uninstalled, I waited and uninstalled all agents, then did one
> > reboot after business hours. After the server came back up, I have been
> > experiencing some strange behavior.
> >
> > I can no longer open Control Panel. Doing so locks up the window
> > without
> > displaying anything, and clicking close causes Windows to report that
> > the
> > program is not responding, and explorer.exe is restarted. However, if I
> > use
> > Windows Explorer to get to Control Panel by expanding the tree, and then
> > instead of displaying the contents of Control Panel open a subfolder,
> > like
> > "Administrative Tools", then I can see the items and access them.
> >
> > The same behavior is happening when browsing the C drive. I cannot view
> > Program Files, but I can view any subfolder either by expanding the
> > tree,
> > or
> > typing it into the Address bar.
> >
> > Also, Windows Installer is not allowing me to do any kind of install,
> > and
> > when I cannot stop and start services. Internet Explorer doesn't pull
> > up
> > any web sites either, it just tries to locate the data. I cannot empty
> > recycle bin because it locks up when I open it.
> >
> > Other than that, all the services are working fine, but obviously I need
> > these functionalities to properly administer my server. Does anyone
> > know
> > what might be going on with it? I have never seen any behavior like
> > this
> > before...I am wondering if a component in Windows was corrupted during
> > the
> > uninstall...but I don't know where to begin. Any suggestions will be
> > greatly appreciated!
> >
> > Tim Nichols
> > MCP
> >
> >

>
>



 
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George Hester
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      8th Jun 2005
Well there is no system restore in Windows 2000 and the other I doubt it.
Why not just re-install the software you removed before the issues started?
You can't? The trouble is that everything is installed correctly and
remnoved correctly. It's just that Windows Explorer is expecting something
that's not there anymore. An Inplace Upgrade will not override that but you
could try. I just don't think it will help. Can you do the ininstall of IE
back to a previous version? That's actually your best bet. The backup you
have may help but the trouble is registry restore only adds and changes
what's alrready there. It will not remove entries just change them. So if
you have an entry that is not in the backup the backup will not remove it.
At least I do not think so.

--
George Hester
_______________________________
"Tim Nichols" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:#(E-Mail Removed)...
> George-
>
> Do you think that if I did a System State restore from a good backup would
> fix the problem? What about an in-place upgrade?
>
> -Tim
>
> "George Hester" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> No. The shell hook is now a part of your Shell ie. Windows Explorer. You
> might try removing IE back to the original version then go back to what

you
> have now. This will change Windows Explorer but as I said the hook is in
> the registry and Windows wants it. The change in IE will probably not fix
> that.
>
> A repair won't work because as far as Windows is concerned that hook is
> necessary and right. A repair would only make sure the hook is installed
> correctly. It is it's just that the hook itself has been removed when you
> unistalled the software. The Veritas Backup site should have something on
> it as I am sure you are not the first this has happpened to. Another
> explanation of this is bad uninstaller by Veritas. But realize it may be
> the best they could do.
>
> --
> George Hester
> _______________________________
> "Tim Nichols" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > George-
> >
> > Thanks for your fast response. Can I do a reinstall without having to
> > reformat? Would a repair fix the problem?
> >
> > -Tim
> >
> > "George Hester" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> > A shell hook was removed that Windows cannot live without anymore. The
> > missing shell hook is why you get the hang, "Where are you shell hook?
> > shell hook where are you? shell hook?" The only fix is to reisntall

the
> > op
> > sys.
> >
> > --
> > George Hester
> > _______________________________
> > "Tim Nichols" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > I have a server running Windows 2000 Server SP4 and Exchange Server
> > > 2003.
> > > This server was also running Veritas Backup Exec 8.5, until yesterday
> > > when
> > > I
> > > uninstalled this software and all agents. Instead of rebooting after
> > > each
> > > agent was uninstalled, I waited and uninstalled all agents, then did

one
> > > reboot after business hours. After the server came back up, I have

been
> > > experiencing some strange behavior.
> > >
> > > I can no longer open Control Panel. Doing so locks up the window
> > > without
> > > displaying anything, and clicking close causes Windows to report that
> > > the
> > > program is not responding, and explorer.exe is restarted. However, if

I
> > > use
> > > Windows Explorer to get to Control Panel by expanding the tree, and

then
> > > instead of displaying the contents of Control Panel open a subfolder,
> > > like
> > > "Administrative Tools", then I can see the items and access them.
> > >
> > > The same behavior is happening when browsing the C drive. I cannot

view
> > > Program Files, but I can view any subfolder either by expanding the
> > > tree,
> > > or
> > > typing it into the Address bar.
> > >
> > > Also, Windows Installer is not allowing me to do any kind of install,
> > > and
> > > when I cannot stop and start services. Internet Explorer doesn't pull
> > > up
> > > any web sites either, it just tries to locate the data. I cannot

empty
> > > recycle bin because it locks up when I open it.
> > >
> > > Other than that, all the services are working fine, but obviously I

need
> > > these functionalities to properly administer my server. Does anyone
> > > know
> > > what might be going on with it? I have never seen any behavior like
> > > this
> > > before...I am wondering if a component in Windows was corrupted during
> > > the
> > > uninstall...but I don't know where to begin. Any suggestions will be
> > > greatly appreciated!
> > >
> > > Tim Nichols
> > > MCP
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
>


 
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