I think this is all about hardware.

Tonight I was copying a CD to my harddrive, and it was going very
slowly for some reason, perhaps because I needed to reboot?, and the
drive was vibrating a lot, making a humming noise from the shaking.
Yet both before and afterwards it didnt' vibrate at all afaict. (It's
a Creative CD/DVD reader, but doesn't burn.)

What do you suppose the cause was?


I was making backups of the CD's that came with an HP computer, XP SP3
fwiw. One of them was 2.5 gigs long. I thought CD's only held 700
Meg.

Is this why I wasn't able to copy the CD to my 10?-year-old CD burner?
Or is because the blank CD's say 700 MB on the container label?



** (especially important now because I think my other CD-drive (from
TDK) failed yesterday. It read and burned CDs, but wasn't built to
even read DVDs.)


Thanks

On 10/8/2010 12:26 AM, mm wrote:
> I think this is all about hardware.
>
> Tonight I was copying a CD to my harddrive, and it was going very
> slowly for some reason, perhaps because I needed to reboot?, and the
> drive was vibrating a lot, making a humming noise from the shaking.
> Yet both before and afterwards it didnt' vibrate at all afaict. (It's
> a Creative CD/DVD reader, but doesn't burn.)
>
> What do you suppose the cause was?
>
>
> I was making backups of the CD's that came with an HP computer, XP SP3
> fwiw. One of them was 2.5 gigs long. I thought CD's only held 700
> Meg.
>
> Is this why I wasn't able to copy the CD to my 10?-year-old CD burner?
> Or is because the blank CD's say 700 MB on the container label?
>
>
>
> ** (especially important now because I think my other CD-drive (from
> TDK) failed yesterday. It read and burned CDs, but wasn't built to
> even read DVDs.)
>
>
> Thanks

If a CD gets captured by the drive spindle slightly off center the drive
will vibrate. Depending on how off-center the CD is the drive may keep
on trying to read the data until it finishes, but as you noticed, much
more slowly than usual due to the resulting data read errors. Removing
and reinserting the CD will normally fix this unless the drive itself is
damaged.

User burned CD's with stick-on labels are prone to this as some people
have difficulty sticking the labels exactly in the center of the CD
resulting in an off-balance condition and vibrate much like an
out-of-balance car tire.

If it was a one time occurrence I'd forget about it.

A few multi-speed drives have had the speed sensor go defective causing
the drive spindle to speed out of control. This has caused a few CD's
to self destruct into little fragments, usually killing the drive in the
process.

mm <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> I think this is all about hardware.
>
> Tonight I was copying a CD to my harddrive, and it was going very
> slowly for some reason, perhaps because I needed to reboot?, and the
> drive was vibrating a lot, making a humming noise from the shaking.
> Yet both before and afterwards it didnt' vibrate at all afaict. (It's
> a Creative CD/DVD reader, but doesn't burn.)
>
> What do you suppose the cause was?

And you didn't see what caused the vibrating when you removed the CD? and
have you tried again? same issue?

The only thing I can think of that you didn't put the CD all the way down
in the middle of the tray.

If you did what suppose to do and it still shaking then (1) tosss away and
replace with the newer one (2) taking it to Wal-Mart to have Wheel-Balancing
<kidding>

> I was making backups of the CD's that came with an HP computer, XP SP3
> fwiw. One of them was 2.5 gigs long. I thought CD's only held 700
> Meg.

Backing, I haven't done any backup up for over 2 decades, but from my
personal experience most if not all backup programs should be able to backup
to multiple disks/cds/tapes. I used to backup to floppy, then later to TAPE

> Is this why I wasn't able to copy the CD to my 10?-year-old CD burner?
> Or is because the blank CD's say 700 MB on the container label?
>
>
> ** (especially important now because I think my other CD-drive (from
> TDK) failed yesterday. It read and burned CDs, but wasn't built to
> even read DVDs.)
>
>
> Thanks

I think it's about time for you to upgrade your collectable anique
computer to a newer technology with faster CPU, more memory, DVD burner
etc.. instead of CD that many people have stopped using it for years.

On Fri, 08 Oct 2010 12:33:55 -0500, GlowingBlueMist
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>On 10/8/2010 12:26 AM, mm wrote:
>> I think this is all about hardware.
>>
>> Tonight I was copying a CD to my harddrive, and it was going very
>> slowly for some reason, perhaps because I needed to reboot?, and the
>> drive was vibrating a lot, making a humming noise from the shaking.
>> Yet both before and afterwards it didnt' vibrate at all afaict. (It's
>> a Creative CD/DVD reader, but doesn't burn.)
>>
>> What do you suppose the cause was?
>>
>>
>> I was making backups of the CD's that came with an HP computer, XP SP3
>> fwiw. One of them was 2.5 gigs long. I thought CD's only held 700
>> Meg.
>>
>> Is this why I wasn't able to copy the CD to my 10?-year-old CD burner?
>> Or is because the blank CD's say 700 MB on the container label?
>>
>>
>>
>> ** (especially important now because I think my other CD-drive (from
>> TDK) failed yesterday. It read and burned CDs, but wasn't built to
>> even read DVDs.)
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>
>If a CD gets captured by the drive spindle slightly off center the drive
>will vibrate. Depending on how off-center the CD is the drive may keep
>on trying to read the data until it finishes, but as you noticed, much
>more slowly than usual due to the resulting data read errors. Removing
>and reinserting the CD will normally fix this unless the drive itself is
>damaged.

OH, that's easy. Well, maybe not when I'm copying the whole disk for
an .iso, ?? , but if it takes a long time it doesn't matter. I have
lots of other things to do.
>
>User burned CD's with stick-on labels are prone to this as some people
>have difficulty sticking the labels exactly in the center of the CD
>resulting in an off-balance condition and vibrate much like an
>out-of-balance car tire.

Wow. I'm not very well centered myself, so I'll give up my dreams of
someday printing my own labels. Seriously.

>If it was a one time occurrence I'd forget about it.

It's happened before, but not often. Now that I know what it is, I'll
be glad to forget about it.

>A few multi-speed drives have had the speed sensor go defective causing
>the drive spindle to speed out of control. This has caused a few CD's
>to self destruct into little fragments, usually killing the drive in the
>process.

Whew, I thought you were going to say it killed the computer user.

Thanks Glowing and thanks to Joel.

On Sat, 09 Oct 2010 05:08:59 -0500, Joel <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>mm <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>> I think this is all about hardware.
>>
>> Tonight I was copying a CD to my harddrive, and it was going very
>> slowly for some reason, perhaps because I needed to reboot?, and the
>> drive was vibrating a lot, making a humming noise from the shaking.
>> Yet both before and afterwards it didnt' vibrate at all afaict. (It's
>> a Creative CD/DVD reader, but doesn't burn.)
>>
>> What do you suppose the cause was?
>
> And you didn't see what caused the vibrating when you removed the CD? and

No.

>have you tried again? same issue?

Yes, it didn't do that the next time. But I"m glad to know what even
the occasional problem is and I'm glad I asked about it.
>
> The only thing I can think of that you didn't put the CD all the way down
>in the middle of the tray.

Okay. I think you're right. Thats' good to hear.

> If you did what suppose to do and it still shaking then (1) tosss away and
>replace with the newer one (2) taking it to Wal-Mart to have Wheel-Balancing
><kidding>

It's a good thing you said you were kidding.
>
>> I was making backups of the CD's that came with an HP computer, XP SP3
>> fwiw. One of them was 2.5 gigs long. I thought CD's only held 700
>> Meg.
>
> Backing, I haven't done any backup up for over 2 decades, but from my

You wouldn't back up a Windows installation CD?

>personal experience most if not all backup programs should be able to backup
>to multiple disks/cds/tapes. I used to backup to floppy, then later to TAPE

Also I need copies of Boot Rescue Anti-virus CD's, plus I wanted a
copy on CD of Partition Manager 8, which isn't sold anymore. It's
meant to boot with, and easier to carry to a friends than a USB drive,
even if I knew my friend could boot from the USB.

>> Is this why I wasn't able to copy the CD to my 10?-year-old CD burner?
>> Or is because the blank CD's say 700 MB on the container label?

Dang, that was a stupid question. The 1.4Kb was meant to be a DVD, I
forgot about them. The file name can end in .iso either way.
>>
>> ** (especially important now because I think my other CD-drive (from
>> TDK) failed yesterday. It read and burned CDs, but wasn't built to
>> even read DVDs.)
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>
> I think it's about time for you to upgrade your collectable anique
>computer to a newer technology with faster CPU, more memory, DVD burner
>etc.. instead of CD that many people have stopped using it for years.

If I email you my address, will you send the money?

Thanks, and thanks for the rest of your reply.

mm <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> If I email you my address, will you send the money?

Yes, I always do.

> Thanks, and thanks for the rest of your reply.

You are welcome for the rest of your questions.