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W. eWatson
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      2nd Jan 2009
I tried using CCleaner for the first time to see if I could shake the
difficulty or correcting the bad update of Adobe Acrobat 8 (see other recent
posts regarding this.)

It was recommended by a post made to the Adobe Forum back in July. I tried
it to clear all registry problems, and it produced a list of about 30-50
items. None seem related to Acrobat, but I plunged ahead. It singled out
one, despite my request to fix them all. That didn't fix the problem.

My question is what in the world are all those other registry problems? For
example, Unused File Extension (.cmp,.ka,.wfx, Office,actor),
Access.Extension.8, ActiveX/Com Issue, ... Perhaps I should clean them out too?
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R. McCarty
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      2nd Jan 2009
The Registry is a highly complex/intertwined database or reference.
I doubt if there is anyone outside of Microsoft who can readily know
and understand all the subtle interactions of keys & values.

I've never found a single program that can analyze/recommend and
"Safely" remove these "Bad" keys/values. ( Beyond MRU & Temp
data ).

The problem with Registry cleaning is what you remove may not
immediately show up as problems but somewhere in the future as a
Key/Value is referenced you'll see the impact of cleaning.

As to Adobe issues, a Registry Cleaning is not going to fix a problem
with a install. People who globally recommend that do not understand
how to fix a computer correctly.

"W. eWatson" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>I tried using CCleaner for the first time to see if I could shake the
>difficulty or correcting the bad update of Adobe Acrobat 8 (see other
>recent posts regarding this.)
>
> It was recommended by a post made to the Adobe Forum back in July. I tried
> it to clear all registry problems, and it produced a list of about 30-50
> items. None seem related to Acrobat, but I plunged ahead. It singled out
> one, despite my request to fix them all. That didn't fix the problem.
>
> My question is what in the world are all those other registry problems?
> For example, Unused File Extension (.cmp,.ka,.wfx, Office,actor),
> Access.Extension.8, ActiveX/Com Issue, ... Perhaps I should clean them out
> too?
> --
> W. eWatson
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> (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time)
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Thip
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      2nd Jan 2009

"W. eWatson" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>I tried using CCleaner for the first time to see if I could shake the
>difficulty or correcting the bad update of Adobe Acrobat 8 (see other
>recent posts regarding this.)
>
> It was recommended by a post made to the Adobe Forum back in July. I tried
> it to clear all registry problems, and it produced a list of about 30-50
> items. None seem related to Acrobat, but I plunged ahead. It singled out
> one, despite my request to fix them all. That didn't fix the problem.
>
> My question is what in the world are all those other registry problems?
> For example, Unused File Extension (.cmp,.ka,.wfx, Office,actor),
> Access.Extension.8, ActiveX/Com Issue, ... Perhaps I should clean them out
> too?
> --
> W. eWatson
>


If you're going to insist on cleaning the registry, I highly recommend
RegSeeker (freeware). You can view all the items before deletion, and it
makes backups first. I've used it for several years with no problems at
all.


 
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FredW
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      2nd Jan 2009
On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 08:29:27 -0500, "Thip" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

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>"W. eWatson" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>news:i1o7l.410$%(E-Mail Removed)...
>>I tried using CCleaner for the first time to see if I could shake the
>>difficulty or correcting the bad update of Adobe Acrobat 8 (see other
>>recent posts regarding this.)
>>
>> It was recommended by a post made to the Adobe Forum back in July. I tried
>> it to clear all registry problems, and it produced a list of about 30-50
>> items. None seem related to Acrobat, but I plunged ahead. It singled out
>> one, despite my request to fix them all. That didn't fix the problem.
>>
>> My question is what in the world are all those other registry problems?
>> For example, Unused File Extension (.cmp,.ka,.wfx, Office,actor),
>> Access.Extension.8, ActiveX/Com Issue, ... Perhaps I should clean them out
>> too?



>If you're going to insist on cleaning the registry, I highly recommend
>RegSeeker (freeware). You can view all the items before deletion, and it
>makes backups first. I've used it for several years with no problems at
>all.



- AUMHA Discussion: Should I Use a Registry Cleaner?
http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=28099
- Why I don’t use registry cleaners
http://www.edbott.com/weblog/archives/000643.html


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Thip
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      2nd Jan 2009

"FredW" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 08:29:27 -0500, "Thip" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>>
>>"W. eWatson" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>news:i1o7l.410$%(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>I tried using CCleaner for the first time to see if I could shake the
>>>difficulty or correcting the bad update of Adobe Acrobat 8 (see other
>>>recent posts regarding this.)
>>>
>>> It was recommended by a post made to the Adobe Forum back in July. I
>>> tried
>>> it to clear all registry problems, and it produced a list of about 30-50
>>> items. None seem related to Acrobat, but I plunged ahead. It singled out
>>> one, despite my request to fix them all. That didn't fix the problem.
>>>
>>> My question is what in the world are all those other registry problems?
>>> For example, Unused File Extension (.cmp,.ka,.wfx, Office,actor),
>>> Access.Extension.8, ActiveX/Com Issue, ... Perhaps I should clean them
>>> out
>>> too?

>
>
>>If you're going to insist on cleaning the registry, I highly recommend
>>RegSeeker (freeware). You can view all the items before deletion, and it
>>makes backups first. I've used it for several years with no problems at
>>all.

>
>
> - AUMHA Discussion: Should I Use a Registry Cleaner?
> http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=28099
> - Why I don't use registry cleaners
> http://www.edbott.com/weblog/archives/000643.html
>
>
> --
> Fred W. (NL)


Operative word was "insist," Fred. I'm the only user on this machine and I
prefer to clear out redundant entries.


 
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Peter Foldes
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      2nd Jan 2009
Bad idea. DO NOT touch the registry with any Reg cleaning tools. It can create
problems to the extent of not booting or a need to reformat. Those left over entries
in your registry does no harm and does not take up space. Leave your registry alone.
This is from experience on fixing customers computers.

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"Thip" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:(E-Mail Removed)...
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> "FredW" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 08:29:27 -0500, "Thip" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"W. eWatson" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>>news:i1o7l.410$%(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>>I tried using CCleaner for the first time to see if I could shake the
>>>>difficulty or correcting the bad update of Adobe Acrobat 8 (see other
>>>>recent posts regarding this.)
>>>>
>>>> It was recommended by a post made to the Adobe Forum back in July. I tried
>>>> it to clear all registry problems, and it produced a list of about 30-50
>>>> items. None seem related to Acrobat, but I plunged ahead. It singled out
>>>> one, despite my request to fix them all. That didn't fix the problem.
>>>>
>>>> My question is what in the world are all those other registry problems?
>>>> For example, Unused File Extension (.cmp,.ka,.wfx, Office,actor),
>>>> Access.Extension.8, ActiveX/Com Issue, ... Perhaps I should clean them out
>>>> too?

>>
>>
>>>If you're going to insist on cleaning the registry, I highly recommend
>>>RegSeeker (freeware). You can view all the items before deletion, and it
>>>makes backups first. I've used it for several years with no problems at
>>>all.

>>
>>
>> - AUMHA Discussion: Should I Use a Registry Cleaner?
>> http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=28099
>> - Why I don't use registry cleaners
>> http://www.edbott.com/weblog/archives/000643.html
>>
>>
>> --
>> Fred W. (NL)

>
> Operative word was "insist," Fred. I'm the only user on this machine and I prefer
> to clear out redundant entries.
>


 
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Bruce Chambers
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      2nd Jan 2009
W. eWatson wrote:
> I tried using CCleaner for the first time to see if I could shake the
> difficulty or correcting the bad update of Adobe Acrobat 8 (see other
> recent posts regarding this.)
>
> It was recommended by a post made to the Adobe Forum back in July. I
> tried it to clear all registry problems, and it produced a list of about
> 30-50 items. None seem related to Acrobat, but I plunged ahead. It
> singled out one, despite my request to fix them all. That didn't fix the
> problem.
>
> My question is what in the world are all those other registry problems?



They're nothing but "false alarms." I've tested a recent version (with
all updates) version on a brand-new OS installation with no additional
applications installed, and certainly none installed and then
uninstalled, and CCleaner still managed to "find" over a hundred
allegedly orphaned registry entries and dozens of purportedly
"suspicious" files, making it clearly a *worthless* product, in this
regard. (Not that any registry cleaner can ever be anything but
worthless, as they don't serve any *useful* purpose, to start with.)

As a registry "cleaner," it's not significantly better or worse
than any other snake oil product of the same type.


> For example, Unused File Extension (.cmp,.ka,.wfx, Office,actor),
> Access.Extension.8, ActiveX/Com Issue, ... Perhaps I should clean them
> out too?



No, of course not.

CCleaner's only real strength, and the only reason I use it, lies in
its usefulness for cleaning up unused temporary files from the hard
drive. It differs from the native Windows tool in that it allows more
granular control and you can specify which folders you want scanned. For
instance, WinXP's disk cleaner will examine only the profile folders of
the user who is running the utility. On a single-user machine, this is
fine, but on a family or other mult-use machine, the ability to clean
temorary files from all of the user profiles at once is a great time saver.



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      2nd Jan 2009

"Peter Foldes" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Bad idea. DO NOT touch the registry with any Reg cleaning tools. It can
> create problems to the extent of not booting or a need to reformat. Those
> left over entries in your registry does no harm and does not take up
> space. Leave your registry alone. This is from experience on fixing
> customers computers.
>
> --
> Peter


Peter, I used to be a PC and network tech. Granted, that was back in the
day (NT Server) but I do have *some* expertise. And there are occasions
when registry entries need to be removed, as you well know. Using RegSeeker
is a matter of my own personal preference, not something I'd recommend to
just anyone.


 
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"W. eWatson" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> I tried using CCleaner for the first time to see if I could shake the
> difficulty or correcting the bad update of Adobe Acrobat 8 (see other

recent
> posts regarding this.)
>
> It was recommended by a post made to the Adobe Forum back in July. I tried
> it to clear all registry problems, and it produced a list of about 30-50
> items. None seem related to Acrobat, but I plunged ahead. It singled out
> one, despite my request to fix them all. That didn't fix the problem.
>
> My question is what in the world are all those other registry problems?

For
> example, Unused File Extension (.cmp,.ka,.wfx, Office,actor),
> Access.Extension.8, ActiveX/Com Issue, ... Perhaps I should clean them out

too?



As a general rule you should not run a registry cleaner at all.
You could potentially do a lot more harm than good.

If you know *exactly* what you are doing,
using a registry cleaner to delete entries made by an application that
failed to uninstall properly
could possibly be a useful function...

but in the case of your errant application
the first thing to do would be to uninstall it
reboot
then try to install it again


 
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FredW
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      2nd Jan 2009
On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 08:59:53 -0500, "Thip" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
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>"FredW" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 08:29:27 -0500, "Thip" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"W. eWatson" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>>news:i1o7l.410$%(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>>I tried using CCleaner for the first time to see if I could shake the
>>>>difficulty or correcting the bad update of Adobe Acrobat 8 (see other
>>>>recent posts regarding this.)
>>>>
>>>> It was recommended by a post made to the Adobe Forum back in July. I
>>>> tried
>>>> it to clear all registry problems, and it produced a list of about 30-50
>>>> items. None seem related to Acrobat, but I plunged ahead. It singled out
>>>> one, despite my request to fix them all. That didn't fix the problem.
>>>>
>>>> My question is what in the world are all those other registry problems?
>>>> For example, Unused File Extension (.cmp,.ka,.wfx, Office,actor),
>>>> Access.Extension.8, ActiveX/Com Issue, ... Perhaps I should clean them
>>>> out
>>>> too?

>>
>>
>>>If you're going to insist on cleaning the registry, I highly recommend
>>>RegSeeker (freeware). You can view all the items before deletion, and it
>>>makes backups first. I've used it for several years with no problems at
>>>all.

>>
>>
>> - AUMHA Discussion: Should I Use a Registry Cleaner?
>> http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=28099
>> - Why I don't use registry cleaners
>> http://www.edbott.com/weblog/archives/000643.html


>
>Operative word was "insist," Fred. I'm the only user on this machine and I
>prefer to clear out redundant entries.



Everyone makes her/his own decisions.
Based on those (and other) articles,
I will never recommend any registry cleaner.
(I presume you select only the "Green" items in RegSeeker?)

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