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j lunis
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      24th Sep 2008
Vista Home Premium
Every 2-3 days I lose my internet access - get a browser message 'this
page can not be displayed' and email fails. I have learned I can unplug
my cable modem and router for about 1-2 minutes, plug the modem in, plug
the router in, and access is restored. It works, but is annoying. Any
ideas on the cause and how to resolve the problem?
PC and modem are plugged in to the router.
 
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Kerry Brown
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      24th Sep 2008
It sounds like either the router or the pc are not able to renew the lease
for their IP address when the lease expires. Have you tried just rebooting
the computer when you get the error? When you get the error can you access
the router setup from the pc?

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"j lunis" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Vista Home Premium
> Every 2-3 days I lose my internet access - get a browser message 'this
> page can not be displayed' and email fails. I have learned I can unplug
> my cable modem and router for about 1-2 minutes, plug the modem in, plug
> the router in, and access is restored. It works, but is annoying. Any
> ideas on the cause and how to resolve the problem?
> PC and modem are plugged in to the router.


 
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j lunis
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      24th Sep 2008
Kerry Brown wrote:
> It sounds like either the router or the pc are not able to renew the
> lease for their IP address when the lease expires. Have you tried just
> rebooting the computer when you get the error?


I believe I did when the error first occurred weeks ago and it seems it
didn't work. But don't put much faith in that.

>When you get the error
> can you access the router setup from the pc?
>


No, but I will next time it happens. May be a few days though so, when I
try it, I'll repost.

 
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Kerry Brown
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      24th Sep 2008
OK. You have to determine if the problem is the router or the pc. When the
problem occurs if you can still access the router setup from the pc then it
is probably the router (or modem) with the problem.

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Kerry Brown
MS-MVP - Windows Desktop Experience: Systems Administration
http://www.vistahelp.ca/phpBB2/
http://vistahelpca.blogspot.com/


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> Kerry Brown wrote:
>> It sounds like either the router or the pc are not able to renew the
>> lease for their IP address when the lease expires. Have you tried just
>> rebooting the computer when you get the error?

>
> I believe I did when the error first occurred weeks ago and it seems it
> didn't work. But don't put much faith in that.
>
>>When you get the error can you access the router setup from the pc?
>>

>
> No, but I will next time it happens. May be a few days though so, when I
> try it, I'll repost.
>


 
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Jack \(MVP-Networking\).
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      24th Sep 2008
Hi
You have to go carefully over the Router's menu.
Both WAM and LAN configurations might have entries with names like Auto
Renew connection/IP, Keep always alive, or setting for lease time of IPs,
make sure that hey are set to provide the longest time.
Jack (MS, MVP-Networking)

"Kerry Brown" <(E-Mail Removed)*a*m> wrote in message
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> It sounds like either the router or the pc are not able to renew the lease
> for their IP address when the lease expires. Have you tried just rebooting
> the computer when you get the error? When you get the error can you access
> the router setup from the pc?
>
> --
> Kerry Brown
> MS-MVP - Windows Desktop Experience: Systems Administration
> http://www.vistahelp.ca/phpBB2/
> http://vistahelpca.blogspot.com/
>
>
> "j lunis" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>> Vista Home Premium
>> Every 2-3 days I lose my internet access - get a browser message 'this
>> page can not be displayed' and email fails. I have learned I can unplug
>> my cable modem and router for about 1-2 minutes, plug the modem in, plug
>> the router in, and access is restored. It works, but is annoying. Any
>> ideas on the cause and how to resolve the problem?
>> PC and modem are plugged in to the router.

>


 
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j lunis
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      25th Sep 2008
Jack (MVP-Networking). wrote:
> Hi
> You have to go carefully over the Router's menu.
> Both WAM and LAN configurations might have entries with names like Auto
> Renew connection/IP, Keep always alive, or setting for lease time of
> IPs, make sure that hey are set to provide the longest time.
> Jack (MS, MVP-Networking)
>
> "Kerry Brown" <(E-Mail Removed)*a*m> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> It sounds like either the router or the pc are not able to renew the
>> lease for their IP address when the lease expires. Have you tried just
>> rebooting the computer when you get the error? When you get the error
>> can you access the router setup from the pc?
>>
>> --
>> Kerry Brown
>> MS-MVP - Windows Desktop Experience: Systems Administration
>> http://www.vistahelp.ca/phpBB2/
>> http://vistahelpca.blogspot.com/
>>
>>
>> "j lunis" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> Vista Home Premium
>>> Every 2-3 days I lose my internet access - get a browser message
>>> 'this page can not be displayed' and email fails. I have learned I
>>> can unplug my cable modem and router for about 1-2 minutes, plug the
>>> modem in, plug the router in, and access is restored. It works, but
>>> is annoying. Any ideas on the cause and how to resolve the problem?
>>> PC and modem are plugged in to the router.

>>

>

Well, I think I have learned quite a bit.
Went through the router menu and I see no such entries. Closest I can
come is "Advertisement period" under UPnP. Is that relevant?
I also have an 'Idle timeout' option but this is only available if a
login is required (it is not). Just for kicks, I changed to "Login
Required,' changed the timeout period to 0 (it was 5), applied.
Coincidentally or not, I lost the internet connection.
Tried Kerry's idea of
trying to access the modem menu - I could.
rebooting the PC - I did but the internet connection was still lost.
Whether it matters or not, when I started my browser, I was prompted

for my router username/password.
still had to unplug and reconnect the router and cable modem.
Netgear WGR614 v6. FWIW, the manual for the router shows a screen with
a 'renew button' but I have no such option on that same screen in the
actual router menu. And, I have the most recent firmware.
 
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