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Catalyst 3.5 & above will not run on my 9700?

 
 
The Donk
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      12th Oct 2003
I have tried every single catalyst release above 3.4 on my Hercules
9700 but cannot get ant of them to run with any stability. The PC
(running Win2k) always locks up at some point... even on the desktop.
I have removed the old drivers every time (using control panel) and
have disabled all other programs but to no avail!!!! The card runs
3.4 perfectly even when its overclocked but anything above that will
not work.... even when running at default clock speeds. Anyone any
ideas please?

 
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Thomas
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      12th Oct 2003
The Donk wrote:
> I have tried every single catalyst release above 3.4 on my Hercules
> 9700 but cannot get ant of them to run with any stability. The PC
> (running Win2k) always locks up at some point... even on the desktop.
> I have removed the old drivers every time (using control panel) and
> have disabled all other programs but to no avail!!!! The card runs
> 3.4 perfectly even when its overclocked but anything above that will
> not work.... even when running at default clock speeds. Anyone any
> ideas please?


Very weird... hmm... Did you try the Omega drivers? They're supposed to be a
bit more stable... www.omegacorner.com . Be aware of the spam flying around
your ears, hehe, but they are good drivers.

Thomas


 
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patrickp
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      12th Oct 2003
"The Donk" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> I have tried every single catalyst release above 3.4 on my Hercules
> 9700 but cannot get ant of them to run with any stability. The PC
> (running Win2k) always locks up at some point... even on the desktop.
> I have removed the old drivers every time (using control panel) and
> have disabled all other programs but to no avail!!!! The card runs
> 3.4 perfectly even when its overclocked but anything above that will
> not work.... even when running at default clock speeds. Anyone any
> ideas please?
>


Donk, you're quite right to uninstall before upgrading your drivers, but
unfortunately ATi's uninstall routines leave something to be desired. They
still leave lots of ATi stuff on your system - sometimes even registry
entries to start ATi apps. Something like this may well be what's
preventing later Cat drivers from running.

It's always best to clear your system out between drivers; you'll find a
thread at Rage3D forums, http://www.rage3d.com/board/, telling you exactly
what you need to do. However, if you're uncormfortable about editing your
registry (and most people should be), you need a good registry editor. I've
always used RegCleaner - part of the jv16 Power Tools suite, from
http://www.macecraft.com/, but unfortunately it's no longer free. You can
download a trial version, but that's not going to be much good to you on an
ongoing basis. I'm sure, if you do a google, you should be able to find
copies of jv16 Power Tools v1.3, which was the last freeware version, or
there are other registry cleaners around - how good, I don't know.

Anyway, uninstall all the old stuff, reboot (enjoy the nauseating display!)
and run your registry editor. If this is the jv16 registry tool, it will
list all your registry entries by manufacturer so you can remove the ATi
ones. Additionally, there's also a Starting Programs section where you can
remove any entries still starting ATi apps. You may even think it's worth
buying jv16 Power Tools; it's certainly a very useful app.

Then reboot, open Windows Explorer and click View > Folder Options > View
and select Show all files (this will enable you to see the ATi system files
you'll need to delete). Delete the big ATI folder on your C: drive and
delete any ATI folders in Program Files. Now open the WINDOWS (or WINNT)
folder and do a search on ati*.*; subfolders too. Delete everything that
isn't there for another reason; i.e. screensavers, internet files etc.

Close Windows Explorer (you might want to set View back to Do not show
hidden or system files - makes life easier) and open your Recyle Bin. Empty
it and reboot. Your machine is clean, and ready for new drivers.

There may, of course, be some other reason your system won't run Cat drivers
above 3.4 but, regardless, this is always a useful thing to do when changing
ATi drivers.

HTH patrickp


 
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Skid
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      12th Oct 2003
That's excellent advice and clearly written. I also use the freeware version
of RegCleaner and it comes in very handy, not just for driver swaps but to
truly remove all those apps that like to leave traces of themselves behind
to gum up my system.

"patrickp" <(E-Mail Removed) - take five to email me> wrote in
message news:UGbib.833$(E-Mail Removed)...
> "The Donk" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > I have tried every single catalyst release above 3.4 on my Hercules
> > 9700 but cannot get ant of them to run with any stability. The PC
> > (running Win2k) always locks up at some point... even on the desktop.
> > I have removed the old drivers every time (using control panel) and
> > have disabled all other programs but to no avail!!!! The card runs
> > 3.4 perfectly even when its overclocked but anything above that will
> > not work.... even when running at default clock speeds. Anyone any
> > ideas please?
> >

>
> Donk, you're quite right to uninstall before upgrading your drivers, but
> unfortunately ATi's uninstall routines leave something to be desired.

They
> still leave lots of ATi stuff on your system - sometimes even registry
> entries to start ATi apps. Something like this may well be what's
> preventing later Cat drivers from running.
>
> It's always best to clear your system out between drivers; you'll find a
> thread at Rage3D forums, http://www.rage3d.com/board/, telling you exactly
> what you need to do. However, if you're uncormfortable about editing your
> registry (and most people should be), you need a good registry editor.

I've
> always used RegCleaner - part of the jv16 Power Tools suite, from
> http://www.macecraft.com/, but unfortunately it's no longer free. You can
> download a trial version, but that's not going to be much good to you on

an
> ongoing basis. I'm sure, if you do a google, you should be able to find
> copies of jv16 Power Tools v1.3, which was the last freeware version, or
> there are other registry cleaners around - how good, I don't know.
>
> Anyway, uninstall all the old stuff, reboot (enjoy the nauseating

display!)
> and run your registry editor. If this is the jv16 registry tool, it will
> list all your registry entries by manufacturer so you can remove the ATi
> ones. Additionally, there's also a Starting Programs section where you

can
> remove any entries still starting ATi apps. You may even think it's worth
> buying jv16 Power Tools; it's certainly a very useful app.
>
> Then reboot, open Windows Explorer and click View > Folder Options > View
> and select Show all files (this will enable you to see the ATi system

files
> you'll need to delete). Delete the big ATI folder on your C: drive and
> delete any ATI folders in Program Files. Now open the WINDOWS (or WINNT)
> folder and do a search on ati*.*; subfolders too. Delete everything that
> isn't there for another reason; i.e. screensavers, internet files etc.
>
> Close Windows Explorer (you might want to set View back to Do not show
> hidden or system files - makes life easier) and open your Recyle Bin.

Empty
> it and reboot. Your machine is clean, and ready for new drivers.
>
> There may, of course, be some other reason your system won't run Cat

drivers
> above 3.4 but, regardless, this is always a useful thing to do when

changing
> ATi drivers.
>
> HTH patrickp
>
>



 
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patrickp
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      12th Oct 2003
"Skid" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> That's excellent advice and clearly written. I also use the freeware

version
> of RegCleaner and it comes in very handy, not just for driver swaps but to
> truly remove all those apps that like to leave traces of themselves behind
> to gum up my system.
>


Thanks, Skid, yes, RegCleaner's saved my life a few times, too.
Particularly when I uninstalled Roxio's EasyCD...

patrickp


> "patrickp" <(E-Mail Removed) - take five to email me> wrote in
> message news:UGbib.833$(E-Mail Removed)...
> > "The Donk" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > I have tried every single catalyst release above 3.4 on my Hercules
> > > 9700 but cannot get ant of them to run with any stability. The PC
> > > (running Win2k) always locks up at some point... even on the desktop.
> > > I have removed the old drivers every time (using control panel) and
> > > have disabled all other programs but to no avail!!!! The card runs
> > > 3.4 perfectly even when its overclocked but anything above that will
> > > not work.... even when running at default clock speeds. Anyone any
> > > ideas please?
> > >

> >
> > Donk, you're quite right to uninstall before upgrading your drivers, but
> > unfortunately ATi's uninstall routines leave something to be desired.

> They
> > still leave lots of ATi stuff on your system - sometimes even registry
> > entries to start ATi apps. Something like this may well be what's
> > preventing later Cat drivers from running.
> >
> > It's always best to clear your system out between drivers; you'll find a
> > thread at Rage3D forums, http://www.rage3d.com/board/, telling you

exactly
> > what you need to do. However, if you're uncormfortable about editing

your
> > registry (and most people should be), you need a good registry editor.

> I've
> > always used RegCleaner - part of the jv16 Power Tools suite, from
> > http://www.macecraft.com/, but unfortunately it's no longer free. You

can
> > download a trial version, but that's not going to be much good to you on

> an
> > ongoing basis. I'm sure, if you do a google, you should be able to find
> > copies of jv16 Power Tools v1.3, which was the last freeware version, or
> > there are other registry cleaners around - how good, I don't know.
> >
> > Anyway, uninstall all the old stuff, reboot (enjoy the nauseating

> display!)
> > and run your registry editor. If this is the jv16 registry tool, it

will
> > list all your registry entries by manufacturer so you can remove the ATi
> > ones. Additionally, there's also a Starting Programs section where you

> can
> > remove any entries still starting ATi apps. You may even think it's

worth
> > buying jv16 Power Tools; it's certainly a very useful app.
> >
> > Then reboot, open Windows Explorer and click View > Folder Options >

View
> > and select Show all files (this will enable you to see the ATi system

> files
> > you'll need to delete). Delete the big ATI folder on your C: drive and
> > delete any ATI folders in Program Files. Now open the WINDOWS (or

WINNT)
> > folder and do a search on ati*.*; subfolders too. Delete everything

that
> > isn't there for another reason; i.e. screensavers, internet files etc.
> >
> > Close Windows Explorer (you might want to set View back to Do not show
> > hidden or system files - makes life easier) and open your Recyle Bin.

> Empty
> > it and reboot. Your machine is clean, and ready for new drivers.
> >
> > There may, of course, be some other reason your system won't run Cat

> drivers
> > above 3.4 but, regardless, this is always a useful thing to do when

> changing
> > ATi drivers.
> >
> > HTH patrickp
> >
> >

>
>



 
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The Donk
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      13th Oct 2003
Thanks for all the advice everyone.... will grab a copy of regcleaner
and give it a go.

Cheers for the help




On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 20:55:33 +0100, "patrickp"
<(E-Mail Removed) - take five to email me> wrote:

>"Skid" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>news:%Jdib.740952$YN5.666229@sccrnsc01...
>> That's excellent advice and clearly written. I also use the freeware

>version
>> of RegCleaner and it comes in very handy, not just for driver swaps but to
>> truly remove all those apps that like to leave traces of themselves behind
>> to gum up my system.
>>

>
>Thanks, Skid, yes, RegCleaner's saved my life a few times, too.
>Particularly when I uninstalled Roxio's EasyCD...
>
>patrickp
>
>
>> "patrickp" <(E-Mail Removed) - take five to email me> wrote in
>> message news:UGbib.833$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> > "The Donk" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> > > I have tried every single catalyst release above 3.4 on my Hercules
>> > > 9700 but cannot get ant of them to run with any stability. The PC
>> > > (running Win2k) always locks up at some point... even on the desktop.
>> > > I have removed the old drivers every time (using control panel) and
>> > > have disabled all other programs but to no avail!!!! The card runs
>> > > 3.4 perfectly even when its overclocked but anything above that will
>> > > not work.... even when running at default clock speeds. Anyone any
>> > > ideas please?
>> > >
>> >
>> > Donk, you're quite right to uninstall before upgrading your drivers, but
>> > unfortunately ATi's uninstall routines leave something to be desired.

>> They
>> > still leave lots of ATi stuff on your system - sometimes even registry
>> > entries to start ATi apps. Something like this may well be what's
>> > preventing later Cat drivers from running.
>> >
>> > It's always best to clear your system out between drivers; you'll find a
>> > thread at Rage3D forums, http://www.rage3d.com/board/, telling you

>exactly
>> > what you need to do. However, if you're uncormfortable about editing

>your
>> > registry (and most people should be), you need a good registry editor.

>> I've
>> > always used RegCleaner - part of the jv16 Power Tools suite, from
>> > http://www.macecraft.com/, but unfortunately it's no longer free. You

>can
>> > download a trial version, but that's not going to be much good to you on

>> an
>> > ongoing basis. I'm sure, if you do a google, you should be able to find
>> > copies of jv16 Power Tools v1.3, which was the last freeware version, or
>> > there are other registry cleaners around - how good, I don't know.
>> >
>> > Anyway, uninstall all the old stuff, reboot (enjoy the nauseating

>> display!)
>> > and run your registry editor. If this is the jv16 registry tool, it

>will
>> > list all your registry entries by manufacturer so you can remove the ATi
>> > ones. Additionally, there's also a Starting Programs section where you

>> can
>> > remove any entries still starting ATi apps. You may even think it's

>worth
>> > buying jv16 Power Tools; it's certainly a very useful app.
>> >
>> > Then reboot, open Windows Explorer and click View > Folder Options >

>View
>> > and select Show all files (this will enable you to see the ATi system

>> files
>> > you'll need to delete). Delete the big ATI folder on your C: drive and
>> > delete any ATI folders in Program Files. Now open the WINDOWS (or

>WINNT)
>> > folder and do a search on ati*.*; subfolders too. Delete everything

>that
>> > isn't there for another reason; i.e. screensavers, internet files etc.
>> >
>> > Close Windows Explorer (you might want to set View back to Do not show
>> > hidden or system files - makes life easier) and open your Recyle Bin.

>> Empty
>> > it and reboot. Your machine is clean, and ready for new drivers.
>> >
>> > There may, of course, be some other reason your system won't run Cat

>> drivers
>> > above 3.4 but, regardless, this is always a useful thing to do when

>> changing
>> > ATi drivers.
>> >
>> > HTH patrickp
>> >
>> >

>>
>>

>


 
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