Refilled color cartridge in Canon ip4000 yesterday.
All checked fine and did not show signs of leak, printed
fine. But something happened overnight and yellow leaked
out almost completely overnight (there was some left in
non-sponge reservoir and the sponge seemed wet). I
replaced the leaking cartridge and all seems to be
fine.

What I am concerned now is where the heck ~ 8 ml of
liquid went, would it cause any problems and if there is
anything I can do right now to prevent the problems?

The printer was OFF overnight so I presume the printhead
was "parked".

Thanks a lot,

Gerry

G-A wrote:
> Refilled color cartridge in Canon ip4000 yesterday.
> All checked fine and did not show signs of leak, printed
> fine. But something happened overnight and yellow leaked
> out almost completely overnight (there was some left in
> non-sponge reservoir and the sponge seemed wet). I
> replaced the leaking cartridge and all seems to be
> fine.
>
> What I am concerned now is where the heck ~ 8 ml of
> liquid went, would it cause any problems and if there is
> anything I can do right now to prevent the problems?
>
> The printer was OFF overnight so I presume the printhead
> was "parked".
>
> Thanks a lot,
>
> Gerry
>

Can I ask what method you were using for sealing the refill hole that
has now given you trouble. I have never found these cartridges to be
particularly prone to leaking - even if you break off the orange OEM
cap, ink does not generally run out. However, it may function
differently when sitting in its rightful slot in the printer.

The method I use for sealing is either an ultra-small stainless steel
socket screw or soft rubber plugs that refillers sell. Or, some of the
better blank refillable cartridges come with large-ish vinyl screws that
are easily removed/reset.

But regardless of which method I have used for sealing, I ALWAYS cover
over the screw or plug with tightly stretched electrical tape. This
safety feature is my guarantee that there will be no surprises down the
line. Although I have never had any leaks before I began using the tape,
one is better safe than sorry.

I don't know exactly what's underneath the "park" area of the printer.
I can see small sponges on my iP4000. If the printer stops working
you'll know there's also a circuit board. And they usually don't take
too kindly to liquids.

-Taliesyn

> Refilled color cartridge in Canon ip4000 yesterday.
> All checked fine and did not show signs of leak, printed
> fine.

I mean no disrespect... the same applies to my self. Until such time
as you feel more comfortable refilling spend the $5.00 a pop for
refillables with rubber plugs or thumb screws. This has happened to me
though I didn't have a leak inside the printer, it was outside.

http://search.ebay.com/hobbicolors_W...qryZhobbicolor

Hobbicolor offers ink and cartridges for $20.00 for the ip4000. Even
if you don't use the ink this is a good price for blank cartridges
alone.

Tape didn't work for me, tape with epoxy did but that's a tad spendy.
Hot glue works well. Taliesyn's reccomendations are sound.

On Fri, 07 Apr 2006 13:37:06 -0400, Taliesyn <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>G-A wrote:
>> Refilled color cartridge in Canon ip4000 yesterday.
>> All checked fine and did not show signs of leak, printed
>> fine. But something happened overnight and yellow leaked
>> out almost completely overnight (there was some left in
>> non-sponge reservoir and the sponge seemed wet). I
>> replaced the leaking cartridge and all seems to be
>> fine.
>>
>> What I am concerned now is where the heck ~ 8 ml of
>> liquid went, would it cause any problems and if there is
>> anything I can do right now to prevent the problems?
>>
>> The printer was OFF overnight so I presume the printhead
>> was "parked".
>>
>> Thanks a lot,
>>
>> Gerry
>>
>
>Can I ask what method you were using for sealing the refill hole that
>has now given you trouble. I have never found these cartridges to be
>particularly prone to leaking - even if you break off the orange OEM
>cap, ink does not generally run out. However, it may function
>differently when sitting in its rightful slot in the printer.

I used "foil tape" over the nail-made hole with candle paraffin
over its edges. Previously, either of these solution alone worked
for me, so I thought that a combination would guarantee me
from any failures... And it did - for some time.

>But regardless of which method I have used for sealing, I ALWAYS cover
>over the screw or plug with tightly stretched electrical tape. This
>safety feature is my guarantee that there will be no surprises down the
>line. Although I have never had any leaks before I began using the tape,
>one is better safe than sorry.

Yep...

>I don't know exactly what's underneath the "park" area of the printer.
>I can see small sponges on my iP4000.

Yes, there are sponges. They don't look like something that can
absorb at least 8 ml of liquid. So I wonder where my yellow ink
went and what the implications of that.

The printer works fine as of now, but if at all possible,
I'd like to remove the contasmininat ink from its insides.

Gerry

G-A wrote:

> On Fri, 07 Apr 2006 13:37:06 -0400, Taliesyn <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>
>>G-A wrote:
>>
>>>Refilled color cartridge in Canon ip4000 yesterday.
>>>All checked fine and did not show signs of leak, printed
>>>fine. But something happened overnight and yellow leaked
>>>out almost completely overnight (there was some left in
>>>non-sponge reservoir and the sponge seemed wet). I
>>>replaced the leaking cartridge and all seems to be
>>>fine.
>>>
>>>What I am concerned now is where the heck ~ 8 ml of
>>>liquid went, would it cause any problems and if there is
>>>anything I can do right now to prevent the problems?
>>>
>>>The printer was OFF overnight so I presume the printhead
>>>was "parked".
>>>
>>>Thanks a lot,
>>>
>>>Gerry
>>>
>>
>>Can I ask what method you were using for sealing the refill hole that
>>has now given you trouble. I have never found these cartridges to be
>>particularly prone to leaking - even if you break off the orange OEM
>>cap, ink does not generally run out. However, it may function
>>differently when sitting in its rightful slot in the printer.
>
>
> I used "foil tape" over the nail-made hole with candle paraffin
> over its edges. Previously, either of these solution alone worked
> for me, so I thought that a combination would guarantee me
> from any failures... And it did - for some time.
>

Simply covering over a hole with tape (plus paraffin) seems kind of, how
shall we say, lacking something in terms of solidity and permanence. I
think you may have to go to more solid measures from now on.

>
>>But regardless of which method I have used for sealing, I ALWAYS cover
>>over the screw or plug with tightly stretched electrical tape. This
>>safety feature is my guarantee that there will be no surprises down the
>>line. Although I have never had any leaks before I began using the tape,
>>one is better safe than sorry.
>
>
> Yep...
>
>
>>I don't know exactly what's underneath the "park" area of the printer.
>>I can see small sponges on my iP4000.
>
>
> Yes, there are sponges. They don't look like something that can
> absorb at least 8 ml of liquid. So I wonder where my yellow ink
> went and what the implications of that.
>
> The printer works fine as of now, but if at all possible,
> I'd like to remove the contamininat ink from its insides.
>

You'll have to find it first. That would require partially dismantling
the printer, I presume. I've never taken apart a printer, or at least
the cover off of one. So I can't tell you where to begin.

-Taliesyn

"G-A" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> On Fri, 07 Apr 2006 13:37:06 -0400, Taliesyn <(E-Mail Removed)>
> wrote:
>
>>G-A wrote:
>>> Refilled color cartridge in Canon ip4000 yesterday.
>>> All checked fine and did not show signs of leak, printed
>>> fine. But something happened overnight and yellow leaked
>>> out almost completely overnight (there was some left in
>>> non-sponge reservoir and the sponge seemed wet). I
>>> replaced the leaking cartridge and all seems to be
>>> fine.
>>>
>>> What I am concerned now is where the heck ~ 8 ml of
>>> liquid went, would it cause any problems and if there is
>>> anything I can do right now to prevent the problems?
>>>
>>> The printer was OFF overnight so I presume the printhead
>>> was "parked".
>>>
>>> Thanks a lot,
>>>
>>> Gerry
>>>
>>
>>Can I ask what method you were using for sealing the refill hole that
>>has now given you trouble. I have never found these cartridges to be
>>particularly prone to leaking - even if you break off the orange OEM
>>cap, ink does not generally run out. However, it may function
>>differently when sitting in its rightful slot in the printer.
>
> I used "foil tape" over the nail-made hole with candle paraffin
> over its edges. Previously, either of these solution alone worked
> for me, so I thought that a combination would guarantee me
> from any failures... And it did - for some time.
>
>>But regardless of which method I have used for sealing, I ALWAYS cover
>>over the screw or plug with tightly stretched electrical tape. This
>>safety feature is my guarantee that there will be no surprises down the
>>line. Although I have never had any leaks before I began using the tape,
>>one is better safe than sorry.
>
> Yep...
>
>>I don't know exactly what's underneath the "park" area of the printer.
>>I can see small sponges on my iP4000.
>
> Yes, there are sponges. They don't look like something that can
> absorb at least 8 ml of liquid. So I wonder where my yellow ink
> went and what the implications of that.
>
> The printer works fine as of now, but if at all possible,
> I'd like to remove the contasmininat ink from its insides.
>
> Gerry
>

The printhead would have been parked while the power was off and the leakage
would have gone into the sponge material at the parking station. It will end
up in the waste ink pads in the base of the printer. Leakage as you
described is caused by an improperly sealed refill opening. I find that
using an inexpensive 10-32 nylon screw seals perfectly (similar to
HobbiColors which I also use and highly recommend).
--
Ron

"G-A" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> On Fri, 07 Apr 2006 13:37:06 -0400, Taliesyn <(E-Mail Removed)>
> wrote:
>
>>G-A wrote:
>>> Refilled color cartridge in Canon ip4000 yesterday.
>>> All checked fine and did not show signs of leak, printed
>>> fine. But something happened overnight and yellow leaked
>>> out almost completely overnight (there was some left in
>>> non-sponge reservoir and the sponge seemed wet). I
>>> replaced the leaking cartridge and all seems to be
>>> fine.
>>>
>>> What I am concerned now is where the heck ~ 8 ml of
>>> liquid went, would it cause any problems and if there is
>>> anything I can do right now to prevent the problems?
>>>
>>> The printer was OFF overnight so I presume the printhead
>>> was "parked".
>>>
>>> Thanks a lot,
>>>
>>> Gerry
>>>
>>
>>Can I ask what method you were using for sealing the refill hole that
>>has now given you trouble. I have never found these cartridges to be
>>particularly prone to leaking - even if you break off the orange OEM
>>cap, ink does not generally run out. However, it may function
>>differently when sitting in its rightful slot in the printer.
>
> I used "foil tape" over the nail-made hole with candle paraffin
> over its edges. Previously, either of these solution alone worked
> for me, so I thought that a combination would guarantee me
> from any failures... And it did - for some time.
>
>>But regardless of which method I have used for sealing, I ALWAYS cover
>>over the screw or plug with tightly stretched electrical tape. This
>>safety feature is my guarantee that there will be no surprises down the
>>line. Although I have never had any leaks before I began using the tape,
>>one is better safe than sorry.
>
> Yep...
>
>>I don't know exactly what's underneath the "park" area of the printer.
>>I can see small sponges on my iP4000.
>
> Yes, there are sponges. They don't look like something that can
> absorb at least 8 ml of liquid. So I wonder where my yellow ink
> went and what the implications of that.
>
> The printer works fine as of now, but if at all possible,
> I'd like to remove the contasmininat ink from its insides.
>
> Gerry
>
Ink has probably flowed down into the waste ink absorbent pad. Not much to
do about it but enjoy printing for now. The liquid will pretty much
evaporate. Shouldn't be a problem. For info on sealing the print hole you
can go onto nifty-stuff forum, look for the topic on sealing the fill holes
in the bci-6 and bci-3 carts and read all the posts. My favorite way is to
use #6 - 5/16ths inch stainless steel pan head self tapping sheet metal
screws with a very tight O-ring. You have to make a hole in the cart over
the reservoir and screw the O-ring/screw combination down enough to compress
the o-ring slightly to effect a seal. this link might get you there.
http://www.nifty-stuff.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=28

G-A <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in news:(E-Mail Removed):

>
> Refilled color cartridge in Canon ip4000 yesterday.
> All checked fine and did not show signs of leak, printed
> fine. But something happened overnight and yellow leaked
> out almost completely overnight (there was some left in
> non-sponge reservoir and the sponge seemed wet). I
> replaced the leaking cartridge and all seems to be
> fine.
>
> What I am concerned now is where the heck ~ 8 ml of
> liquid went, would it cause any problems and if there is
> anything I can do right now to prevent the problems?
>
> The printer was OFF overnight so I presume the printhead
> was "parked".
>
> Thanks a lot,
>
> Gerry
>


It will have gone into the waste ink sponges, nothing to panic about there.

Open the lid, remove ALL cartridges, remove the head, and start cleaning up
that ink spilt everywhere. Use cotton buds for getting in the tighter
spots. Do not touch the nozzles, and do not touch the filters, and you'll
be fine.
there may be some ink sitting along the edges where the head goes into the
printer, wipe that up aswell.
As for where the rest of the ink went, forget it, the rest of the ink won;t
cause any concerns, that ink I just told you to clean up, will.

If you have a screw, you can succesfully remove the blastic ball, and
reinsert it for sealing the hole. I always go this method till I damage it
or drop it on the floor and lose it
Alternatively, Hot glue, or oversized plugs sold by refillers.
I use the balls, some of them for 15+ refills, when I eventually drop and
lose it or accidently push it inside, I use hot glue.
Using anything like tape is just asking for trouble IMO.

"G-A" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> On Fri, 07 Apr 2006 13:37:06 -0400, Taliesyn <(E-Mail Removed)>
> wrote:

>>I don't know exactly what's underneath the "park" area of the printer.
>>I can see small sponges on my iP4000.
>
> Yes, there are sponges. They don't look like something that can
> absorb at least 8 ml of liquid. So I wonder where my yellow ink
> went and what the implications of that.

There is a "diaper" covering the bottom of the printer designed to
handle the considerable ink used for automatic cleaning cycles. I would
estimate its capacity at a few *hundred* ml....

- Bob Headrick

Taliesyn wrote:

> G-A wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 07 Apr 2006 13:37:06 -0400, Taliesyn <(E-Mail Removed)>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> G-A wrote:
>>>
>>>> Refilled color cartridge in Canon ip4000 yesterday. All checked
>>>> fine and did not show signs of leak, printed
>>>> fine. But something happened overnight and yellow leaked out almost
>>>> completely overnight (there was some left in
>>>> non-sponge reservoir and the sponge seemed wet). I replaced the
>>>> leaking cartridge and all seems to be fine.
>>>> What I am concerned now is where the heck ~ 8 ml of liquid went,
>>>> would it cause any problems and if there is anything I can do right
>>>> now to prevent the problems?
>>>> The printer was OFF overnight so I presume the printhead
>>>> was "parked".
>>>> Thanks a lot,
>>>> Gerry
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Can I ask what method you were using for sealing the refill hole that
>>> has now given you trouble. I have never found these cartridges to be
>>> particularly prone to leaking - even if you break off the orange OEM
>>> cap, ink does not generally run out. However, it may function
>>> differently when sitting in its rightful slot in the printer.
>>
>>
>>
>> I used "foil tape" over the nail-made hole with candle paraffin over
>> its edges. Previously, either of these solution alone worked
>> for me, so I thought that a combination would guarantee me from any
>> failures... And it did - for some time.
>>
>
> Simply covering over a hole with tape (plus paraffin) seems kind of, how
> shall we say, lacking something in terms of solidity and permanence. I
> think you may have to go to more solid measures from now on.

I THINK YOU SHOULD WELD A METAL PLATE OVER DA HOLE WITH 1 INCH THICK STEEL.

>
>>
>>> But regardless of which method I have used for sealing, I ALWAYS cover
>>> over the screw or plug with tightly stretched electrical tape. This
>>> safety feature is my guarantee that there will be no surprises down the
>>> line. Although I have never had any leaks before I began using the
>>> tape, one is better safe than sorry.
>>
LOOK AT ALL OF THE TROUBLE TRYING TO SCREW CANON

>>
>>
>> Yep...
>>
>>
>>> I don't know exactly what's underneath the "park" area of the printer.
>>> I can see small sponges on my iP4000.
>>
>>
>>
>> Yes, there are sponges. They don't look like something that can
>> absorb at least 8 ml of liquid. So I wonder where my yellow ink went
>> and what the implications of that.
>> The printer works fine as of now, but if at all possible,
>> I'd like to remove the contamininat ink from its insides.
>
>
> You'll have to find it first. That would require partially dismantling
> the printer, I presume. I've never taken apart a printer, or at least
> the cover off of one. So I can't tell you where to begin.
>
> -Taliesyn