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      8th May 2007
How can I capture an existing website to use for source files. My plan is
to move their website to IIS and use FrontPage. (this case is unusual in
that I'm helping a widow. We don't know how he originally published the
site, or how he maintained it.)


 
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Thomas A. Rowe
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      8th May 2007
Use a FTP application.

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Microsoft MVP - FrontPage

http://www.Ecom-Data.com
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> How can I capture an existing website to use for source files. My plan is to move their website
> to IIS and use FrontPage. (this case is unusual in that I'm helping a widow. We don't know how
> he originally published the site, or how he maintained it.)
>
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      9th May 2007
How can it work without credentials?


"Thomas A. Rowe" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Use a FTP application.
>
> --
> ==============================================
> Thomas A. Rowe
> Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
>
> http://www.Ecom-Data.com
> ==============================================
>
>
> "wdsnews" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
>> How can I capture an existing website to use for source files. My plan
>> is to move their website to IIS and use FrontPage. (this case is unusual
>> in that I'm helping a widow. We don't know how he originally published
>> the site, or how he maintained it.)
>>
>>

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      9th May 2007
Contact the web host for login info, etc.

--
==============================================
Thomas A. Rowe
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage

http://www.Ecom-Data.com
==============================================


"wdsnews" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> How can it work without credentials?
>
>
> "Thomas A. Rowe" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Use a FTP application.
>>
>> --
>> ==============================================
>> Thomas A. Rowe
>> Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
>>
>> http://www.Ecom-Data.com
>> ==============================================
>>
>>
>> "wdsnews" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> How can I capture an existing website to use for source files. My plan is to move their website
>>> to IIS and use FrontPage. (this case is unusual in that I'm helping a widow. We don't know how
>>> he originally published the site, or how he maintained it.)
>>>
>>>

>>
>>

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wdsnews
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      12th May 2007
Considering that IE is able browse the website, I'd be stunned if there
isn't a method to simply capture using HTTP. BTW, I've already attempted to
contact the host. They haven't replied and I don't expect they'll help us
without basic security info.


"Thomas A. Rowe" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Contact the web host for login info, etc.
>
> --
> ==============================================
> Thomas A. Rowe
> Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
>
> http://www.Ecom-Data.com
> ==============================================
>
>
> "wdsnews" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> How can it work without credentials?
>>
>>
>> "Thomas A. Rowe" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> Use a FTP application.
>>>
>>> --
>>> ==============================================
>>> Thomas A. Rowe
>>> Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
>>>
>>> http://www.Ecom-Data.com
>>> ==============================================
>>>
>>>
>>> "wdsnews" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>> news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>> How can I capture an existing website to use for source files. My plan
>>>> is to move their website to IIS and use FrontPage. (this case is
>>>> unusual in that I'm helping a widow. We don't know how he originally
>>>> published the site, or how he maintained it.)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>

>>
>>

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Thomas A. Rowe
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      14th May 2007
Any browser should be able to browse a web site, however if you don't have login access, then the
only content you can import is the content that is displayed in a browser, however this will exclude
all server-side scripts, Include page files, and anything that can be seen as linked to in browser
sources, etc.

I would think all the widow would need to do is contact the web host and explain the situation to
get access to the login info.

--
==============================================
Thomas A. Rowe
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage

http://www.Ecom-Data.com
==============================================


"wdsnews" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Considering that IE is able browse the website, I'd be stunned if there isn't a method to simply
> capture using HTTP. BTW, I've already attempted to contact the host. They haven't replied and I
> don't expect they'll help us without basic security info.
>
>
> "Thomas A. Rowe" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Contact the web host for login info, etc.
>>
>> --
>> ==============================================
>> Thomas A. Rowe
>> Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
>>
>> http://www.Ecom-Data.com
>> ==============================================
>>
>>
>> "wdsnews" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> How can it work without credentials?
>>>
>>>
>>> "Thomas A. Rowe" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>> Use a FTP application.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> ==============================================
>>>> Thomas A. Rowe
>>>> Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
>>>>
>>>> http://www.Ecom-Data.com
>>>> ==============================================
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "wdsnews" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>>> news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>>> How can I capture an existing website to use for source files. My plan is to move their
>>>>> website to IIS and use FrontPage. (this case is unusual in that I'm helping a widow. We
>>>>> don't know how he originally published the site, or how he maintained it.)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>

>>
>>

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wdsnews
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      14th May 2007
As it turns out there are at least two tools available for capturing a
website.

httrack
Teleport

I learned out about these in the alt.www.webmaster forum.


"Thomas A. Rowe" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Any browser should be able to browse a web site, however if you don't have
> login access, then the only content you can import is the content that is
> displayed in a browser, however this will exclude all server-side scripts,
> Include page files, and anything that can be seen as linked to in browser
> sources, etc.
>
> I would think all the widow would need to do is contact the web host and
> explain the situation to get access to the login info.
>
> --
> ==============================================
> Thomas A. Rowe
> Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
>
> http://www.Ecom-Data.com
> ==============================================
>
>
> "wdsnews" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Considering that IE is able browse the website, I'd be stunned if there
>> isn't a method to simply capture using HTTP. BTW, I've already attempted
>> to contact the host. They haven't replied and I don't expect they'll
>> help us without basic security info.
>>
>>
>> "Thomas A. Rowe" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> Contact the web host for login info, etc.
>>>
>>> --
>>> ==============================================
>>> Thomas A. Rowe
>>> Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
>>>
>>> http://www.Ecom-Data.com
>>> ==============================================
>>>
>>>
>>> "wdsnews" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>> How can it work without credentials?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Thomas A. Rowe" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>>> Use a FTP application.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> ==============================================
>>>>> Thomas A. Rowe
>>>>> Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.Ecom-Data.com
>>>>> ==============================================
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "wdsnews" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>>>> news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>>>> How can I capture an existing website to use for source files. My
>>>>>> plan is to move their website to IIS and use FrontPage. (this case
>>>>>> is unusual in that I'm helping a widow. We don't know how he
>>>>>> originally published the site, or how he maintained it.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>

>>
>>

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>



 
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Thomas A. Rowe
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      14th May 2007
You still can not capture everything using those apps.

--
==============================================
Thomas A. Rowe
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage

http://www.Ecom-Data.com
==============================================


"wdsnews" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> As it turns out there are at least two tools available for capturing a website.
>
> httrack
> Teleport
>
> I learned out about these in the alt.www.webmaster forum.
>
>
> "Thomas A. Rowe" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Any browser should be able to browse a web site, however if you don't have login access, then the
>> only content you can import is the content that is displayed in a browser, however this will
>> exclude all server-side scripts, Include page files, and anything that can be seen as linked to
>> in browser sources, etc.
>>
>> I would think all the widow would need to do is contact the web host and explain the situation to
>> get access to the login info.
>>
>> --
>> ==============================================
>> Thomas A. Rowe
>> Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
>>
>> http://www.Ecom-Data.com
>> ==============================================
>>
>>
>> "wdsnews" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> Considering that IE is able browse the website, I'd be stunned if there isn't a method to simply
>>> capture using HTTP. BTW, I've already attempted to contact the host. They haven't replied and
>>> I don't expect they'll help us without basic security info.
>>>
>>>
>>> "Thomas A. Rowe" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>> Contact the web host for login info, etc.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> ==============================================
>>>> Thomas A. Rowe
>>>> Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
>>>>
>>>> http://www.Ecom-Data.com
>>>> ==============================================
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "wdsnews" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>>> How can it work without credentials?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Thomas A. Rowe" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>>>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>>>> Use a FTP application.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> ==============================================
>>>>>> Thomas A. Rowe
>>>>>> Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.Ecom-Data.com
>>>>>> ==============================================
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "wdsnews" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>>>>> How can I capture an existing website to use for source files. My plan is to move their
>>>>>>> website to IIS and use FrontPage. (this case is unusual in that I'm helping a widow. We
>>>>>>> don't know how he originally published the site, or how he maintained it.)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>

>>
>>

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wdsnews
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      21st May 2007
Thomas, you're still missing the point. I don't have the credentials or the
publishing tools that the widow's husband used. Therefore, I found
'httrack' did EXACTLY what I needed, and the people in the www.webmaster
forum made an effort to listen to my question and provide me with a useful
suggestion. I'm simply telling you about it because I thought it might be
useful to others and interesting to you.

I recommend httrack to anyone who needs to capture a website using HTTP.


"Thomas A. Rowe" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> You still can not capture everything using those apps.
>
> --
> ==============================================
> Thomas A. Rowe
> Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
>
> http://www.Ecom-Data.com
> ==============================================
>
>
> "wdsnews" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> As it turns out there are at least two tools available for capturing a
>> website.
>>
>> httrack
>> Teleport
>>
>> I learned out about these in the alt.www.webmaster forum.
>>
>>
>> "Thomas A. Rowe" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> Any browser should be able to browse a web site, however if you don't
>>> have login access, then the only content you can import is the content
>>> that is displayed in a browser, however this will exclude all
>>> server-side scripts, Include page files, and anything that can be seen
>>> as linked to in browser sources, etc.
>>>
>>> I would think all the widow would need to do is contact the web host and
>>> explain the situation to get access to the login info.
>>>
>>> --
>>> ==============================================
>>> Thomas A. Rowe
>>> Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
>>>
>>> http://www.Ecom-Data.com
>>> ==============================================
>>>
>>>
>>> "wdsnews" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>> Considering that IE is able browse the website, I'd be stunned if there
>>>> isn't a method to simply capture using HTTP. BTW, I've already
>>>> attempted to contact the host. They haven't replied and I don't expect
>>>> they'll help us without basic security info.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Thomas A. Rowe" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>>> Contact the web host for login info, etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> ==============================================
>>>>> Thomas A. Rowe
>>>>> Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.Ecom-Data.com
>>>>> ==============================================
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "wdsnews" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>>>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>>>> How can it work without credentials?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Thomas A. Rowe" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>>>>> Use a FTP application.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> ==============================================
>>>>>>> Thomas A. Rowe
>>>>>>> Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.Ecom-Data.com
>>>>>>> ==============================================
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "wdsnews" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>>>>>> How can I capture an existing website to use for source files. My
>>>>>>>> plan is to move their website to IIS and use FrontPage. (this case
>>>>>>>> is unusual in that I'm helping a widow. We don't know how he
>>>>>>>> originally published the site, or how he maintained it.)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>

>>
>>

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>



 
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Thomas A. Rowe
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      22nd May 2007
I did not miss your point, however you missed mine, httrack can only grab the content the is sent to
a browser, so if the site has a database, include pages, server-side scripting, etc. it will not be
included.

Also all the widow had to do was contact the web host and provide proof of her husband death and her
rights to the site by marriage, etc. to get legal access to the web site content.

--
==============================================
Thomas A. Rowe
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage

http://www.Ecom-Data.com
==============================================


"wdsnews" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:e7sdy4%(E-Mail Removed)...
> Thomas, you're still missing the point. I don't have the credentials or the publishing tools that
> the widow's husband used. Therefore, I found 'httrack' did EXACTLY what I needed, and the people
> in the www.webmaster forum made an effort to listen to my question and provide me with a useful
> suggestion. I'm simply telling you about it because I thought it might be useful to others and
> interesting to you.
>
> I recommend httrack to anyone who needs to capture a website using HTTP.
>
>
> "Thomas A. Rowe" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> You still can not capture everything using those apps.
>>
>> --
>> ==============================================
>> Thomas A. Rowe
>> Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
>>
>> http://www.Ecom-Data.com
>> ==============================================
>>
>>
>> "wdsnews" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> As it turns out there are at least two tools available for capturing a website.
>>>
>>> httrack
>>> Teleport
>>>
>>> I learned out about these in the alt.www.webmaster forum.
>>>
>>>
>>> "Thomas A. Rowe" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>> Any browser should be able to browse a web site, however if you don't have login access, then
>>>> the only content you can import is the content that is displayed in a browser, however this
>>>> will exclude all server-side scripts, Include page files, and anything that can be seen as
>>>> linked to in browser sources, etc.
>>>>
>>>> I would think all the widow would need to do is contact the web host and explain the situation
>>>> to get access to the login info.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> ==============================================
>>>> Thomas A. Rowe
>>>> Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
>>>>
>>>> http://www.Ecom-Data.com
>>>> ==============================================
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "wdsnews" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>>> Considering that IE is able browse the website, I'd be stunned if there isn't a method to
>>>>> simply capture using HTTP. BTW, I've already attempted to contact the host. They haven't
>>>>> replied and I don't expect they'll help us without basic security info.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Thomas A. Rowe" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>>>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>>>> Contact the web host for login info, etc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> ==============================================
>>>>>> Thomas A. Rowe
>>>>>> Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.Ecom-Data.com
>>>>>> ==============================================
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "wdsnews" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>>>>> How can it work without credentials?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Thomas A. Rowe" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>>>>>> Use a FTP application.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> ==============================================
>>>>>>>> Thomas A. Rowe
>>>>>>>> Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.Ecom-Data.com
>>>>>>>> ==============================================
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "wdsnews" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>>>>>>> How can I capture an existing website to use for source files. My plan is to move their
>>>>>>>>> website to IIS and use FrontPage. (this case is unusual in that I'm helping a widow. We
>>>>>>>>> don't know how he originally published the site, or how he maintained it.)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>

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>>

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