Well I've added the key now, booted OK
Anything else I should do to check my hd sys is ok now, it having been
formated prior to this tweak?
David

"DL" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> OK so I add the key but reading KB I'm not sure of exact procedure.
> In regedit the Edit menu enables;
> New:-
> Add Key
> String Value
> Binary Value
> DWord Value
> and not Add Value as outlined in KB
> David
>
> "Leonard Severt [MSFT]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:Xns946D5D69FA4EBleonsonlinemicrosoft@24.25.9.43...
> > "DL" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
> > news:#(E-Mail Removed):
> >
> > > I checked my registry, there is no key, as per the kb article "to
> > > enable 48-bit LBA....."
> > > Since I have 2*150gb sata drive in a mirror raid setup, which appear
> > > to be functioning correctly, to their full capacity, I'm wondering if
> > > I should add this key?
> > > David
> > >
> > > "Leonard Severt [MSFT]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > > news:Xns946D13DC52A66leonsonlinemicrosoft@24.25.9.42...
> > >> "DL" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
> > >> news:#F1x$(E-Mail Removed):
> > >>
> > >> > I am using large SATA disks was that the difference?, as I didnt
> > >> > undertake any reg edit, to enable them.
> > >> > David
> > >> >
> > >> > "Leonard Severt [MSFT]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
> > >> > message news:Xns946C53A035103leonsonlinemicrosoft@24.25.9.42...
> > >> >> "DL" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
> > >> >> news:(E-Mail Removed):
> > >> >>
> > >> >> > I don't believe there's any registry edit, leastways I didn't
> > >> >> > David
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > "Jisha" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > >> >> > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > >> >> >> I believe the fix for that is also included in SP4.
> > >> >> >> My understanding is that even with the fix, there is still a
> > >> >> >> registry edit which has to be made for drives larger than
> > >> >> >> 137gb. Look around in microsoft.public.win2000.general for
> > >> >> >> more...
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> "DL" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > >> >> >> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > >> >> >> > Tried WinUpdate?
> > >> >> >> > There is a fix for large disk support.
> > >> >> >> > David
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> > "Carl St-Gelaos" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > >> >> >> > news:07b001c3d6db$1adfead0$(E-Mail Removed)...
> > >> >> >> > > Hi everyone,
> > >> >> >> > > I would like to know if there is a maximum capacity of a
> > >> >> >> > > drive in windows 2000.
> > >> >> >> > > I have install a 200Gb western digital in my compaq
> > >> >> >> > > win2000 and in the disk manager I see only 128Gb.
> > >> >> >> > > In the bion of the compaq it see 200GB
> > >> >> >> > >
> > >> >> >> > > Thanks
> > >> >> >> > > Carl St-Gelais
> > >> >> >> > > (E-Mail Removed)
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Its called 48 bit addressing and yes it has to be enabled in the
> > >> >> registry and supported by the hardware.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;305098
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Leonard Severt
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Windows 2000 Server Setup Team
> > >> >>
> > >> >> --
> > >> >> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers
> > >> >> no rights.
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >> There should be no difference with SATA since it is an extension of
> > >> ATAPI. I guess it is possible for 3rd party driver to do some type of
> > >> translation but I have never heard of that. If you check your
> > >> registry do you have the key? If you do and you didn't put it there
> > >> then a driver did it. Windows 2000 and XP must have that key to do 48
> > >> bit addressing to support drives larger than 127 gig. It is basic
> > >> math, with 31 bits and max sizes on heads and cylinders there are
> > >> only so many sectors possible.
> > >>
> > >> Leonard Severt
> > >>
> > >> Windows 2000 Server Setup Team
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
> > >> rights.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Here is one thing I have seen only 3 weeks ago. I had a customer that
> > had 200 gig SATA drive. He create one partition on it. Installed Windows
> > 2000. He then started copying data and when he got around 115 gig of
> > data the system crashed and wouldn't boot. He next repartitioned the
> > drive with a 10 gig for OS and 180 gig for data. He installed and
> > started copying data again and once again the system crashed. Thats when
> > he called to Microsoft and had a case created and I worked with him. On
> > his OS drive the MFT was wiped out. We recreated that partition,
> > installed, updated to SP4 and made the registry key change. The data on
> > the second partition was fine. Customer continued to copy data until he
> > had 160 gig of data on the 2nd partition with no problems. Conclusion
> > from this; when copying data and he reached the 137 gig limit which is
> > really a limit of the head and cylinder drive numbers those numbers
> > wrapped around (reseting to low numbers) causing the data copy to
> > overwrite the MFT at the beginning of the drive. So my answer is yes
> > create the key and play it safe. Of course you can copy 137 gig of data
> > to your drive and see what happens.
> >
> > Leonard Severt
> >
> > Windows 2000 Server Setup team.
> >
> > --
> > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
> > rights.
>
>

"DL" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
news:(E-Mail Removed):

> Well I've added the key now, booted OK
> Anything else I should do to check my hd sys is ok now, it having been
> formated prior to this tweak?
> David
>
> "DL" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> OK so I add the key but reading KB I'm not sure of exact procedure.
>> In regedit the Edit menu enables;
>> New:-
>> Add Key
>> String Value
>> Binary Value
>> DWord Value
>> and not Add Value as outlined in KB
>> David
>>
>> "Leonard Severt [MSFT]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:Xns946D5D69FA4EBleonsonlinemicrosoft@24.25.9.43...
>> > "DL" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
>> > news:#(E-Mail Removed):
>> >
>> > > I checked my registry, there is no key, as per the kb article "to
>> > > enable 48-bit LBA....."
>> > > Since I have 2*150gb sata drive in a mirror raid setup, which
>> > > appear to be functioning correctly, to their full capacity, I'm
>> > > wondering if I should add this key?
>> > > David
>> > >
>> > > "Leonard Severt [MSFT]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
>> > > message news:Xns946D13DC52A66leonsonlinemicrosoft@24.25.9.42...
>> > >> "DL" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
>> > >> news:#F1x$(E-Mail Removed):
>> > >>
>> > >> > I am using large SATA disks was that the difference?, as I
>> > >> > didnt undertake any reg edit, to enable them.
>> > >> > David
>> > >> >
>> > >> > "Leonard Severt [MSFT]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
>> > >> > message
>> > >> > news:Xns946C53A035103leonsonlinemicrosoft@24.25.9.42...
>> > >> >> "DL" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
>> > >> >> news:(E-Mail Removed):
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> > I don't believe there's any registry edit, leastways I
>> > >> >> > didn't David
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > "Jisha" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> > >> >> > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> > >> >> >> I believe the fix for that is also included in SP4.
>> > >> >> >> My understanding is that even with the fix, there is still
>> > >> >> >> a registry edit which has to be made for drives larger
>> > >> >> >> than 137gb. Look around in
>> > >> >> >> microsoft.public.win2000.general for more...
>> > >> >> >>
>> > >> >> >> "DL" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> > >> >> >> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> > >> >> >> > Tried WinUpdate?
>> > >> >> >> > There is a fix for large disk support.
>> > >> >> >> > David
>> > >> >> >> >
>> > >> >> >> > "Carl St-Gelaos" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> > >> >> >> > news:07b001c3d6db$1adfead0$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> > >> >> >> > > Hi everyone,
>> > >> >> >> > > I would like to know if there is a maximum capacity of
>> > >> >> >> > > a drive in windows 2000.
>> > >> >> >> > > I have install a 200Gb western digital in my compaq
>> > >> >> >> > > win2000 and in the disk manager I see only 128Gb.
>> > >> >> >> > > In the bion of the compaq it see 200GB
>> > >> >> >> > >
>> > >> >> >> > > Thanks
>> > >> >> >> > > Carl St-Gelais
>> > >> >> >> > > (E-Mail Removed)
>> > >> >> >> >
>> > >> >> >> >
>> > >> >> >>
>> > >> >> >>
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> Its called 48 bit addressing and yes it has to be enabled in
>> > >> >> the registry and supported by the hardware.
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-
us;305098
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> Leonard Severt
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> Windows 2000 Server Setup Team
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> --
>> > >> >> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
>> > >> >> confers no rights.
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >>
>> > >> There should be no difference with SATA since it is an extension
>> > >> of ATAPI. I guess it is possible for 3rd party driver to do some
>> > >> type of translation but I have never heard of that. If you check
>> > >> your registry do you have the key? If you do and you didn't put
>> > >> it there then a driver did it. Windows 2000 and XP must have
>> > >> that key to do 48 bit addressing to support drives larger than
>> > >> 127 gig. It is basic math, with 31 bits and max sizes on heads
>> > >> and cylinders there are only so many sectors possible.
>> > >>
>> > >> Leonard Severt
>> > >>
>> > >> Windows 2000 Server Setup Team
>> > >>
>> > >> --
>> > >> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers
>> > >> no rights.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> > Here is one thing I have seen only 3 weeks ago. I had a customer
>> > that had 200 gig SATA drive. He create one partition on it.
>> > Installed Windows 2000. He then started copying data and when he
>> > got around 115 gig of data the system crashed and wouldn't boot. He
>> > next repartitioned the drive with a 10 gig for OS and 180 gig for
>> > data. He installed and started copying data again and once again
>> > the system crashed. Thats when he called to Microsoft and had a
>> > case created and I worked with him. On his OS drive the MFT was
>> > wiped out. We recreated that partition, installed, updated to SP4
>> > and made the registry key change. The data on the second partition
>> > was fine. Customer continued to copy data until he had 160 gig of
>> > data on the 2nd partition with no problems. Conclusion from this;
>> > when copying data and he reached the 137 gig limit which is really
>> > a limit of the head and cylinder drive numbers those numbers
>> > wrapped around (reseting to low numbers) causing the data copy to
>> > overwrite the MFT at the beginning of the drive. So my answer is
>> > yes create the key and play it safe. Of course you can copy 137 gig
>> > of data to your drive and see what happens.
>> >
>> > Leonard Severt
>> >
>> > Windows 2000 Server Setup team.
>> >
>> > --
>> > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
>> > rights.
>>
>>
>
>
>

I don't know of anything else you need to do. I know that the one
experience I had with a 200 gig SATA drive worked fine after the key was
added to the registry. The partition had already been created in that
one and it worked fine.

Leonard Severt

Windows 2000 Server Setup Team

--
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.

Hi DL,

I looked around some more, to get you the reference on large drive support.

"To use a drive larger than 137 gb, you must enable support in the registry
by changing the EnableBigLba registry value to 1 in the following registry
subkey:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\atapi\Parameters "

This is straight from KB305098
(
http://support.microsoft.com/default...roduct=win2000 )

Chris


"DL" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> I don't believe there's any registry edit, leastways I didn't
> David
>
> "Jisha" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > I believe the fix for that is also included in SP4.
> > My understanding is that even with the fix, there is still a registry
edit
> > which has to be made for drives larger than 137gb.
> > Look around in microsoft.public.win2000.general for more...
> >
> > "DL" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > Tried WinUpdate?
> > > There is a fix for large disk support.
> > > David
> > >
> > > "Carl St-Gelaos" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > > news:07b001c3d6db$1adfead0$(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > > Hi everyone,
> > > > I would like to know if there is a maximum capacity of a
> > > > drive in windows 2000.
> > > > I have install a 200Gb western digital in my compaq
> > > > win2000 and in the disk manager I see only 128Gb.
> > > > In the bion of the compaq it see 200GB
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > > Carl St-Gelais
> > > > (E-Mail Removed)
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Yes I had located it, I think my point at the time was that my large hd's
had formatted correctly without recourse to the 'biglba' reg edit
David

"Jisha" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Hi DL,
>
> I looked around some more, to get you the reference on large drive
support.
>
> "To use a drive larger than 137 gb, you must enable support in the
registry
> by changing the EnableBigLba registry value to 1 in the following registry
> subkey:
> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\atapi\Parameters "
>
> This is straight from KB305098
> (
>
http://support.microsoft.com/default...roduct=win2000 )
>
> Chris
>
>
> "DL" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > I don't believe there's any registry edit, leastways I didn't
> > David
> >
> > "Jisha" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > I believe the fix for that is also included in SP4.
> > > My understanding is that even with the fix, there is still a registry
> edit
> > > which has to be made for drives larger than 137gb.
> > > Look around in microsoft.public.win2000.general for more...
> > >
> > > "DL" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > > Tried WinUpdate?
> > > > There is a fix for large disk support.
> > > > David
> > > >
> > > > "Carl St-Gelaos" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > > > news:07b001c3d6db$1adfead0$(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > > > Hi everyone,
> > > > > I would like to know if there is a maximum capacity of a
> > > > > drive in windows 2000.
> > > > > I have install a 200Gb western digital in my compaq
> > > > > win2000 and in the disk manager I see only 128Gb.
> > > > > In the bion of the compaq it see 200GB
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > > Carl St-Gelais
> > > > > (E-Mail Removed)
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

If the BIOS only reads 137 it's tough for Windows 2000 see past it.

yoda174 wrote:

> I have a system running windows 2000. It has a Seagte 200GB EIDE ATA 100
> hard drive. Only shows up as 137 GB, so I installed the SP4, and I made
> the registry edit. I also went into my BIOS and changed the Access mode
> for my hard drive from auto to LBA. But after all of that, it still
> only reads as 137 GB... any help would be greatly appreciated!
>
> Thanks!
>
>
> yoda174
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Posted via http://www.mcse.ms
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> View this thread: http://www.mcse.ms/message265116.html
>
>

Yoda - Try refreshing the BIOS drive setting using the BIOS "Drive
Detection" window (whatever it's called; it's different than the main
page default display.) Merely setting to LBA or "Large") may not
suffice. Make sure BIOS detects the full 200GB in that detection window.
If it does. save and exit BIOS.

If no joy from that, the motherboard may not be capable, or the BIOS may
need a flash update. In that case, check mboard manufacturer's website
for latest specs/fixes for that board.

Bob I wrote:

> If the BIOS only reads 137 it's tough for Windows 2000 see past it.
>
> yoda174 wrote:
>
>> I have a system running windows 2000. It has a Seagte 200GB EIDE ATA 100
>> hard drive. Only shows up as 137 GB, so I installed the SP4, and I made
>> the registry edit. I also went into my BIOS and changed the Access mode
>> for my hard drive from auto to LBA. But after all of that, it still
>> only reads as 137 GB... any help would be greatly appreciated!
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>>
>> yoda174
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Posted via http://www.mcse.ms
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> View this thread: http://www.mcse.ms/message265116.html
>>
>>
>

I have a system running windows 2000. It has a Seagte 200GB EIDE ATA 10
hard drive. Only shows up as 137 GB, so I installed the SP4, and I mad
the registry edit. I also went into my BIOS and changed the Access mod
for my hard drive from auto to LBA. But after all of that, it stil
only reads as 137 GB... any help would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks

yoda17
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Posted via http://www.mcse.m
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
View this thread: http://www.mcse.ms/message265116.htm